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Old 05-13-2010, 07:03 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I have a brand new extra set of the larger size poly spring bushing (1.75" ID) if you need them... I converted all mine to the smaller size (1.5" ID) and 9/16 bolts... Let me know and I can mail them out. F'ing Chevy.
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I have a brand new extra set of the larger size poly spring bushing (1.75" ID) if you need them... I converted all mine to the smaller size (1.5" ID) and 9/16 bolts... Let me know and I can mail them out. F'ing Chevy.
Ha ha ha...Thanks Chris but I am running the 1.5's as well.

I think the "new" springs I have are from a Ford or something. One end is 1.5" ID and the other end is 1.25" ID.

When I was giving them a look over it "appeared" that they were both 1.5" and so I ordered 4 sets of bushings...

I am working on a fix for this.
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Ha ha ha...Thanks Chris but I am running the 1.5's as well.

I think the "new" springs I have are from a Ford or something. One end is 1.5" ID and the other end is 1.25" ID.

When I was giving them a look over it "appeared" that they were both 1.5" and so I ordered 4 sets of bushings...

I am working on a fix for this.
How long of spring? Are you moving mounts??


Might have something kicking around the yard that would work.
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How long of spring? Are you moving mounts??


Might have something kicking around the yard that would work.


No moving mounts...these are some of the springs that you let me have out of the back of the 1500 a couple of years ago It shows the speed of my projects

I have already been confirmed that my fix will work....

Machine shop is just waiting for the goods.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:49 PM   #57 (permalink)
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So this past weekend I played dad all weekend... I didn't touch the Scout once.

So today I got my thermocouple bung tig'ed into the pan. I just sprayed a coat of paint onto the tin to make it look less white trash. I also installed the new tranny gauge.
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Here is the fix for running 9/16" bolts with a 1-1/4" ID bushing and saving time from having to source something that I don't think exists. The machinist that turned the four bushings looked at me kind of funny when I asked him to do this.
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I noticed that the tranny face of the old Dana 20 adapter has a clock to it. I am HOPING that the tranny/motor doesn't have a clock to it. For the new adapter that I am running doesn't have any built in rotation.
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I picked up this box of angle tabs from a yard sale this weekend. I am going to use the piss out of these this weekend.
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I am "assuming" that the small diameter bushing end of the spring is the rear...right? So the end with the double wraps...right?
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JB Conversions kind of pissed me off and is putting me in a bind. I ordered their rotation plate kit minus the input shaft (which I bought previously) last Monday the 19th. I told him that it is kind of a rush and asked when it would be shipped out. He (John) told me that it would ship Tuesday morning the 11th.

Well I get a tracking number this past Sunday the 16th saying that it would be arriving on the 24th . Add to that his unwillingness to ship the shit in a flat rate box (faster and cheaper than UPS & with confirmation number)and I am probably not going to ever recommend them nor buy from them again.

I am not too much of a vent/whiney bitch...but fuck.

More will be done tomorrow night.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:09 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Need Input:::::

So rear suspension is "bolted" back together. New shit is in. I am a little worried about ride height but will address that after I set the pinion angle and such.

I am going to be outboarding the shocks I think...and am looking at about a 5*-10* kick back...what do you think?

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I am setting up my Hydro Assist. It is a Rockstomper kit and I am trying to figure out the best layout for the thing. I think I will be mounting it to the tube and not the spring perch...

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The mounts for the thing have thrown me for a loop and I will go into that later.

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This thing is different than my Dana 20. I am going to tear into doing some shift rod modifications tonight on this dirty pig. I am also going to strip it down and start laying out the twin stick.

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...I am setting up my Hydro Assist. It is a Rockstomper kit and I am trying to figure out the best layout for the thing. I think I will be mounting it to the tube and not the spring perch...
I think that's a good choice.
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This thing is different than my Dana 20. I am going to tear into doing some shift rod modifications tonight on this dirty pig. I am also going to strip it down and start laying out the twin stick.
It is a bit different. If you've never torn a 300 apart before, it does come apart a bit different than the 20 and the PITA factor is slightly higher on the 300 than the 20, but it's nothing you can't handle with a good pair of blue gloves.
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It's good to see more progress on the HoS PoS.

Are you going to build the shock mounts or run F-250 shock mounts (Cheap/free and easy to find)?

I have to get my shocks sorted out too...I'm using F-250 front shock mounts for thr front, and I think I'll get a set for the rear, too.

The angle looks good on the "MS paint shock" how far does your rear axle move as the spring compresses and the shackle swings back? Tack it in and cycle the suspension a few times (full bump/droop) and make sure nothing hits before you burn it in for good.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:42 PM   #61 (permalink)
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HOS, Definitly outboard the shocks if you have room. My shocks lean back @ 6* and havnt had any problem.



Try this style ram mount, works great. Keeps the ram a little further away from the pumpkin.



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Thanks for the pics man. I really appreciate the feedback and opinion.

I was laying out the ram travel path last night and I was a little worried about the clearance to the top of the diff. It will clear, but won't allow for a long tie-rod bracket like I want to make. Your approach should help that...

I am thinking that a 5-10* kick back will be the ticket for the rear shocks.

What rear axle are you running?


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254 I like how you built a brace so all the force is not on the U-bolts

With the shocks out boarded you need more travel. I'm running 99-04 F350 rear shocks 31" extended and 18.25 compressed 13" travelNapa part number NS 911196 and had to mount the axle tab on the side of the axle to fit them in there. But I think you have room.
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Here is the fix for running 9/16" bolts with a 1-1/4" ID bushing and saving time from having to source something that I don't think exists. The machinist that turned the four bushings looked at me kind of funny when I asked him to do this.
Attachment 523525

Those are the small YJ bushings.


http://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/Bushings-and-Sleeves/3190
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http://www.wfoconcepts.com/pr/3-4-Bu...Bolt/3190/3500


These guys have all that stuff and more.
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Contact Dan at Ruff Stuff he can beat those prices (on the bushings).

Plus his customer service & delivery times are top notch.
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I like Dan's steel parts, but what type of bushings does he carry? These are the nice Daystar bushing. I pulled the shitty one's that came in a Rubicon express kit and put these in. I looked and its 63 cents difference per side. You could get the rolled sleeve vs the DOM save a 1.50 if your cheap
If you read the post he needed 1.25 bushing
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Dan's are black and the part number inside the bushing starts with an 'M'.... I have his bushings in all my springs/shackles and they are holding up great.
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So I took today off of work.............and thought I was going to get more done...what a fool am I

BUT the tranny is in and I did it by myself (not to my wife's approval). I couldn't see spending the 49.00 they wanted for a jack attachment at Harbor Freight. So I made one out of some aluminum scrap, some lumber, and some drywall screws

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Precision booty fab right there bitches:

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So I dropped the rig on the "new" rear leaves to see what the ride height would look like. And it was a fucking lowwwww rider since they are softer than the old ones. The rear was even low when the old springs were in good shape...now it is even lower. I do like how flexy they are though....

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So if I jack up the rear 2+ inches it seems to level things out pretty nicely and actually dips the hood down like it should. This will make my visual approach angle much nicer than before.

BUT

It means that I would need to add a lift block...and possibly an add-a-leaf once the fuel cell+rear seat frame+junk+passengers is in the rear.

Since I am adding an anti-wrap bar...should I even worry about the 2-1/5" lift block being there?


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If it's mush then put in a full length add-a-leaf. You could even make your own if you have main leaves you don't mind cutting the eyes off of. Then set it back down and decide how much block you'll need.
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I have one you could have just come and got it......
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If it's mush then put in a full length add-a-leaf. You could even make your own if you have main leaves you don't mind cutting the eyes off of. Then set it back down and decide how much block you'll need.
I got a bunch of misc spring shit at the house thats going in the next scrap run (that I'm loading now). Come do some shopping.

Even have a couple add-a-leafs, but I don't know if any of them are 2.5" wide.
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The deadline on some of these first items is Memorial Day weekend. Or even better yet, a couple of weeks before...to shake it down.

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So how did it do this last weekend?
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So I took today off of work.............and thought I was going to get more done...what a fool am I

BUT the tranny is in and I did it by myself (not to my wife's approval). I couldn't see spending the 49.00 they wanted for a jack attachment at Harbor Freight. So I made one out of some aluminum scrap, some lumber, and some drywall screws

Precision booty fab right there bitches:



I did almost the exact same thing about 10 years ago.. 'cept I didn't have no fancy al-u-min-e-um, just a 2x4, drywall screws, and a ATV tie-down. SM465/205 combo. I'm lucky it didn't fall off the jack and crush me. That's the day I started using 2 ratchet straps strung across the frame rails under the transmission to help raise it and keep it from falling on my head/neck/chest region. Makes it easy to shimmy into place for the final adjustments, too.
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What he said...^^^

I pushed very, very, very hard to get the thing done by the holiday weekend. Unfortunately I just flat ran out of time. I worked on the thing all the week of the 17th-20th of May. Then I took Friday the 21st off from work to work on it.

So after 4 straight 9 hour days of fitting, re-fitting, welding, testing, and grinding...I just ran out of time. I still had lots of small parts to source locally come Tuesday the 25th. Add to that the fact that JB Conversions fucked me and I didn't get my rotation ring till Monday the 24th...I was being youthfully optimistic. I also started to find myself saying..."ohhh I can redo this later" and rushing things, which is not how I normally do things.

The good thing is that by Tuesday afternoon...my welding skills didn't require the typical grinder clean up, my rig is close to being finished, and my wife is seeing the light in my crazyness.

The hindsight to not getting it done for this weekend is that Naches was a snow covered, drunken cluster fuck.

We still went camping as a family, and that was the best part...spending time with good friends, and telling stories.

I am hitting the rig again tomorrow and this weekend a bit. Photos to come
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