Trooper - cutting wheel wells - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Rip DeLips · 08-19-2003, 01:58 PM

The ol' Trooper is about to go in for surgery. Anybody got any decent pics of hack jobs? Especially near/into the bottom of the rear door (I have the 4 door)??? Just want to do some comparisons before I start cutting into it.

TIA

Kilby · 08-20-2003, 09:30 AM

I thought you said you didn't care what it looked like?

When you starting the surgery? Gimme a buzz if you want some assistance or heckling. I might be able to swing by tonight or tomorrow.

Rip DeLips · 08-20-2003, 11:08 AM

Probably start on it this weekend if you're gunna be around. I 'think' I have to go pick up tires/rims in Richmond on Saturday if ya want to ride.

Kilby · 08-20-2003, 11:40 AM

So yer not ridin' the river w/ me on Saturday?

Rip DeLips · 08-20-2003, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kilby
So yer not ridin' the river w/ me on Saturday?

I'll be back by noon o'clock dude. Everything is still on.

Kilby · 08-20-2003, 12:47 PM

Well, then COOOL!

How come you're not getting any help from the Isuzu guys? Are they all out at the mall or something?

Rip DeLips · 08-20-2003, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Kilby
Well, then COOOL!

How come you're not getting any help from the Isuzu guys? Are they all out at the mall or something?

I dunno where they are. Hey, you wanna just sit here and shoot the shit till somebody gets pissed?

Kilby · 08-20-2003, 01:38 PM

Ha ha...

It's not like there could be any TECH in an Isuzu forum anyway!

Independent4x · 08-20-2003, 03:45 PM

i could help you out if i could keep my computer bug free........hey microsoft

.........clean install...real fun .............again

anyway

i doubt you will need to cut yours as much as i did, but the front is a single lip...just ditch that inner plastic liner

the rear .....i cut the back edge back about 2.5" and bent a lip on the inner well.....bent it together w/ the outter and rivoted it togehter....herculiner over that...and viola...looks tight

here you can see how i cut the front:

Independent4x · 08-20-2003, 03:46 PM

process:

Independent4x · 08-20-2003, 03:47 PM

another

Rip DeLips · 08-21-2003, 05:01 AM

Thanks Matt...but you didn't have a rear door to contend with.

Kilby · 08-21-2003, 06:00 AM

Nice, Matt...

Rip - It's not like it's a Cherokee where if you cut too much, you start taking out STRUCTURAL SUPPORT.

Rip DeLips · 08-21-2003, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kilby
Nice, Matt...

Rip - It's not like it's a Cherokee where if you cut too much, you start taking out STRUCTURAL SUPPORT.

LOL. Sounds like you speak from experience.

Kilby · 08-21-2003, 07:09 AM

no experience yet... i've got a cherocar that's waiting to be hacked up, though.

Grampa · 08-21-2003, 08:02 PM

I'd like to see a few pics too, but I doubt there are too many that have done it yet... I figure just keep cutting til the tires fit, and add a few plates here and there to keep most of the dust out. I plan on hacking into the doors as far as need be, as long as the rear windows still open. The major issue will be making the wheel tubs longer front to back, but thats still no biggie. Another issue is the body mount right behind the wheelwell, but I think it can be cut off and relocated a bit further rearward, if it gets put back on at all... I'm also playing with the idea of bobbing it a bit... maybe 4-6", and continue the wheelwells straight back, and putting lights in the rear doors.

Rip DeLips · 08-22-2003, 05:03 AM

Well grampa, looks like I won't have access to the shop till Monday evening. Gotta a few other things to take care of on the truck first, but I'll try to get some pics for you once the knife comes out.

Independent4x · 08-22-2003, 10:37 AM

i hear you guys.....i don't see the mystery of cutting the doors.....i know Land rover guys do it all the time on Discos and Rangies

you may want to look for some rover sites, or pop over to the rover forum and search.

here is a good example.you can see how much was cut out of th back doors:

Kilby · 08-29-2003, 07:25 AM

Ripper,

How's it coming along??

Rip DeLips · 09-02-2003, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by Kilby
Ripper,

How's it coming along??

Shitttaaaaay. Worked on it till about 11 or so Tuesday night. My junk is now on the back burner so 3 other trucks can get ready for a trip next weekend. Whole bunch of dammit.

Eric D · 09-09-2003, 06:32 PM

I'm sitting here wondering to myself, "gee, why haven't many/any isuzu guys hacked their fenders... "

and then it strikes me

OH YEA! our trucks came with bigass wheel wells that swallow 33" tires stock and much bigger with only minor lift.

You know, unlike cherokees that need 6"+ lift and fender trimming to fit 33s without rubbing, and a new front axle to keep from snapping it with the same tires.

I knew it was something simple like that.

Independent4x · 09-09-2003, 08:04 PM

Grampa · 09-09-2003, 08:55 PM

Poor Jeepers, and all we have to do to get better gearing to turn those 33"+ tires is rob a bank to pay for the teras or swap the whole drive train

Sucka's

I was looking at my troop today and I doubt I'll have to trim much in the front of the rear wheelwell because I'll be moving the axle back ~2"-3", but I'll still need to hack the shit out of the rear area and the front fenders are going to get hacked very similar to Matt's. I guess thats kinda the last thing I need to worry about though, seeing as the new motor, tranny, transfercase and front axle havent been installed yet

paulevans76 · 09-10-2003, 07:34 AM

gotta watch that body mount back there at the rear of the wheelwell

Rip DeLips · 09-10-2003, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by paulevans76
gotta watch that body mount back there at the rear of the wheelwell

Oh. Is that the thing I cut through last night???

08-19-2003, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rip DeLips Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10124 Location: Fort Liquordale Posts: 2,315	Trooper - cutting wheel wells The ol' Trooper is about to go in for surgery. Anybody got any decent pics of hack jobs? Especially near/into the bottom of the rear door (I have the 4 door)??? Just want to do some comparisons before I start cutting into it. TIA __________________ I crashed that piece of shit...and then stepped away.......

08-20-2003, 09:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	I thought you said you didn't care what it looked like? When you starting the surgery? Gimme a buzz if you want some assistance or heckling. I might be able to swing by tonight or tomorrow. __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-20-2003, 11:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rip DeLips Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10124 Location: Fort Liquordale Posts: 2,315	Probably start on it this weekend if you're gunna be around. I 'think' I have to go pick up tires/rims in Richmond on Saturday if ya want to ride. __________________ I crashed that piece of shit...and then stepped away.......

08-20-2003, 11:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	So yer not ridin' the river w/ me on Saturday? __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-20-2003, 12:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	Well, then COOOL! How come you're not getting any help from the Isuzu guys? Are they all out at the mall or something? __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-20-2003, 01:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	Ha ha... It's not like there could be any TECH in an Isuzu forum anyway! __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-20-2003, 03:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	i could help you out if i could keep my computer bug free........hey microsoft .........clean install...real fun .............again anyway i doubt you will need to cut yours as much as i did, but the front is a single lip...just ditch that inner plastic liner the rear .....i cut the back edge back about 2.5" and bent a lip on the inner well.....bent it together w/ the outter and rivoted it togehter....herculiner over that...and viola...looks tight here you can see how i cut the front: Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

08-20-2003, 03:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	process: Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

08-20-2003, 03:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	another Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

08-21-2003, 05:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
Rip DeLips Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10124 Location: Fort Liquordale Posts: 2,315	Thanks Matt...but you didn't have a rear door to contend with. __________________ I crashed that piece of shit...and then stepped away.......

08-21-2003, 06:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	Nice, Matt... Rip - It's not like it's a Cherokee where if you cut too much, you start taking out STRUCTURAL SUPPORT. __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-21-2003, 07:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	no experience yet... i've got a cherocar that's waiting to be hacked up, though. __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

08-21-2003, 08:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	I'd like to see a few pics too, but I doubt there are too many that have done it yet... I figure just keep cutting til the tires fit, and add a few plates here and there to keep most of the dust out. I plan on hacking into the doors as far as need be, as long as the rear windows still open. The major issue will be making the wheel tubs longer front to back, but thats still no biggie. Another issue is the body mount right behind the wheelwell, but I think it can be cut off and relocated a bit further rearward, if it gets put back on at all... I'm also playing with the idea of bobbing it a bit... maybe 4-6", and continue the wheelwells straight back, and putting lights in the rear doors. __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

08-22-2003, 05:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
Rip DeLips Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10124 Location: Fort Liquordale Posts: 2,315	Well grampa, looks like I won't have access to the shop till Monday evening. Gotta a few other things to take care of on the truck first, but I'll try to get some pics for you once the knife comes out. __________________ I crashed that piece of shit...and then stepped away.......

08-22-2003, 10:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	i hear you guys.....i don't see the mystery of cutting the doors.....i know Land rover guys do it all the time on Discos and Rangies you may want to look for some rover sites, or pop over to the rover forum and search. here is a good example.you can see how much was cut out of th back doors: Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

08-29-2003, 07:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Kilby Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11588 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 879	Ripper, How's it coming along?? __________________ Never own anything you're not prepared to drill a hole in.

09-09-2003, 06:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
Eric D Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6807 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 213	I'm sitting here wondering to myself, "gee, why haven't many/any isuzu guys hacked their fenders... " and then it strikes me OH YEA! our trucks came with bigass wheel wells that swallow 33" tires stock and much bigger with only minor lift. You know, unlike cherokees that need 6"+ lift and fender trimming to fit 33s without rubbing, and a new front axle to keep from snapping it with the same tires. I knew it was something simple like that. __________________ [url]www.weusecoins.com/[/url] Last edited by Eric D; 09-09-2003 at 06:36 PM.

09-09-2003, 08:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	__________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

09-09-2003, 08:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Poor Jeepers, and all we have to do to get better gearing to turn those 33"+ tires is rob a bank to pay for the teras or swap the whole drive train Sucka's I was looking at my troop today and I doubt I'll have to trim much in the front of the rear wheelwell because I'll be moving the axle back ~2"-3", but I'll still need to hack the shit out of the rear area and the front fenders are going to get hacked very similar to Matt's. I guess thats kinda the last thing I need to worry about though, seeing as the new motor, tranny, transfercase and front axle havent been installed yet __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

09-10-2003, 07:34 AM	#24 (permalink)
paulevans76 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16384 Location: G-Vegas, NC Posts: 1,290	gotta watch that body mount back there at the rear of the wheelwell __________________ 79 cj5 on tons

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