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Old 12-07-2003, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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isuzu noob: what to watch for when buying

i have no fawking clue when it comes to isuzu's (been building jeeps for too long) and have always loved the body lines of the first gen. Amigo. Well now i am in the market to buy and want to know:

what common problems

what to avoid

what to look for

and any other things you all know that i should know if i can find one (first gen. are not easy to find around here for some reason)
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I guess it depends on what you plan on keeping. is this gonna be a dd or trail rig?
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Old 12-08-2003, 04:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Definitely get one with the 2.6L fuel-injected motor. Not a powerhouse, but pretty torquey and tons better than the 2.3 carb that is your only other option in a 1st gen. The "XS" body package is the higher-end one with things like a better instrument cluster (with tach), intermittent wipers, tilt steering, etc. And if you can find one with stock 31x10.50R15's, it will have disk breaks front and rear with rear ABS and 4.56's gears. This was only on the 4x4s........ which I would assume you are wanting the 4x4, right

The only real "issue" with these trucks is problems with heads/head gaskets. There were several (5?) different head castings and the earlier ones were prone to cracking. Head gasket would blow-> truck overheats-> head cracks. IIRC, the better heads are on '93-'94 models. And improved aftermarket heads can be bought at www.aluminumheads.com

These are pretty easy trucks to get along with. Do basic maintenance, change the oil, adjust your valves every 15K miles, and don't let it overheat and it will basically run forever. And when the bug starts biting, check into some toys for it at www.independent4x.com and www.darlington-off-road.bigstep.com

[edit]Of course, my suggestions are based on you using it for a dd that will see mild-moderate trails. If you're wanting to build a trail beast that will have a whole new drivetrain and SAS, just find a cheap 2wd with a blown motor.
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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your best bet for finding Isuzu's in MD is in the Balto/DC areas- Many more dealerships in those surrounding areas. When I was in the market for one I'd drive up to 2-3 hours just to look at a couple. Ended up getting a heck of a deal on one in Ellicott City. Paid $4k (XS, very low miles, one owner) drove it for 3 years, got hit by a deer, had it totaled and valued at $6k - 3 years after I bought it

where in MD area you? I'll keep my eye open if I see anything nice

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Old 12-09-2003, 07:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I live in frederick, and i am not having a whole lot of luck finding a 4X4 amigo around here
i found a 1990 with 50k (yes 50,000 miles) i should be able to get for 3,000 (worth it?)
needs from the cat back replaced (figure this is common) and some minor damage to the body.its the 2.6
this will be my DD and then later (much later) it will get SAS and all made happy
keep the info comming ,you guys are great
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sounds like a great deal. i'd talk him down a little cause of the damage and catback. do a compression test and if the numbers are close, you should be fine for a while.

one of the things I like about the amigos is the fenders are a little bulged out so you can fit big meat on there with less work than on a rodeo. they got a nice short wheelbase, too, so you can throw some 32's on and go about anywhere you want. thats what dallas ran for a while before his sas and he did it all with that setup.
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i found a 1990 with 50k (yes 50,000 miles) i should be able to get for 3,000 (worth it?)
There's a blue '94 in PA with very low mileage.
The hardtop alone is worth ~$800.

Anywhooo, make sure you get a compression test. That should rule out any immediate head related problems.

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There's a blue '94 in PA with very low mileage.
The hardtop alone is worth ~$800.

Anywhooo, make sure you get a compression test. That should rule out any immediate head related problems.

Good luck, Doc
actualy that is the one i am looking at. called the dude about ending it early
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Definitely get the fuel injected engine. You will thank yourself many times over.


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well in like 12 hours i will know if this one is mine its is the FI 2.6 1994 with 50k miles.
are there things that i should do as soon as i get it ? (things for tune up and shat? ) Its getting new from the cat back and typical tune up shat as soon as i get it. Looks like it would be a sweet little ride.
SAS and 35's come later
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Obviously fluids (oil, tranny, diff). If it's manual, the tranny/xfer is all one unit, but there ARE 2 fill and 2 drain plugs.

If you don't know the fluid types/weights required, post up here.
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See if you can find out when\if the timing belt was changed, but with 50K you should be OK for now.
IIRC This is an interference engine FYI
The timing belt should be replaced ~75-90K (but it's debateable).

Compression check ?

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Obviously fluids (oil, tranny, diff). If it's manual, the tranny/xfer is all one unit, but there ARE 2 fill and 2 drain plugs.

If you don't know the fluid types/weights required, post up here.
Engine oil 10W30 or 5W30, diffs 80W90 (though I run Mobil 1 75W90 since the ARB), manual tranny and t-case 10W30 (though I run 5W30 since my Tera Lows). I listed the tranny and t-case fill and drain plugs' locations in another post on this forum, so just do a search if you can't find them.

Yes, it is an interference engine. IIRC, timing belt change is every 90K miles. I waited 120k miles to change mine with no problems, but in hindsight I was also tempting fate pretty badly.

I would also recommend flushing the cooling system and putting in a new thermostat, new fuel filter and air filter, new cap/rotor/plugs/wires just to start out on the right foot............. just the basic things you do when first acquiring a vehicle (or maybe I'm the only one)
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tis mine BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAA
link low miles and typical "old person damage"

Indyguy: thanks for the info, and yes those are also what i do with any "new" vehicle. everything that is a consumable or has an end life gets replaced so i have a decent guideline of what that vehicle is supposed to be .

any info you all can pump me full of i apreciate
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tis mine BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAA
link low miles and typical "old person damage"

Indyguy: thanks for the info, and yes those are also what i do with any "new" vehicle. everything that is a consumable or has an end life gets replaced so i have a decent guideline of what that vehicle is supposed to be .

any info you all can pump me full of i apreciate
Oh crap...I just realized now I have to watch this forum closer!
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I would also recommend flushing the cooling system and putting in a new thermostat, new fuel filter and air filter, new cap/rotor/plugs/wires just to start out on the right foot............. just the basic things you do when first acquiring a vehicle (or maybe I'm the only one)


No you are not.On my way home with mine,I got $300 worth of PM parts.All fluids,belts,tune up,etc.....
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