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Grampa · 01-31-2004, 11:33 PM

Well the swap has started. The motor and tranny are out, as are the front CV's/diff. I left the a-arms and outers on so I can keep the front wheels on til I get everything done except the front axle. First order of business next weekend is fitting the 283/465/205 combo... The 283 will be running on propane, so I also have to find and fit a tank somewhere... I have everthing else, just need a newish tank now. I've also decided to stick with leafs for the SAS just to keep the down-time of my rig to a minimum. I'll be using the stock rear trooper springs up front, and a set of 2003 F150 spring in the rear(56" long) This will move the rear axle back ~2 1/2 " and I'll also be moving the front axle forward. Once the motor etc is in and the springs are in up front and rear, I'm going to see if I can do the front SUA without major steering link/ oilpan clearance probs then match with SOA in the rear... I want to keep as low as possible and will trimm as much as needed to fit the 37"s I'll be getting this month. After the driveline is done and it runs/drives, the next step is chopping off the rear roof area and bringing it to Camrock for the exo... I have way too much shit to do now... I gotta get some help I think!!!!

Anyone want to come to Canada to help???

Kuranosuke · 02-01-2004, 12:02 AM

If only I was closer, man... I'd be there...

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you're making progress. You know what I'm waiting for...

sacramentophil · 02-01-2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Anyone want to come to Canada to help???

damn...i just went back to work after fawkin' off for 6 months. spent almost a month up near your neck of the woods on San Juan Island.

Grampa · 02-01-2004, 06:26 PM

Shit! I'm only 40 min. from Vancouver and 2 min. from the Can/US border... San Juan is fawking beautiful...

Hyunduzu · 02-01-2004, 08:55 PM

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Anyone want to come to Canada to help???

Shit I'm about to go postal here in NJ with all these cosmo fvcktards - you got a heater in your garage?! Hell I'll sleep in my truck, as long as I can get an occasional day off to get my boardin' fix in at Whistler then I'm down.

Grampa · 02-01-2004, 09:11 PM

I just got back from a foot of fresh pow at Hemlock resort just near me, and yup my garage is heated... 12ft doors, 44ft long by 42 ft wide. full air tools, wood working tools, 180 mig, chopsaw, grinders, torches and on and on

I own an RV repair shop so I gotta have room for the big bling A class busses

rubo · 02-01-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Grampa
Anyone want to come to Canada to help???

If only i had the money to get there

rubo

Grampa · 02-02-2004, 08:22 PM

Kuranosuke, the diff is out. Give me a call or I'll call you... mmmmmmmmmm... lockers

Kuranosuke · 02-02-2004, 08:47 PM

Ok, I sent you a PM on the wire. I think I gave you the wrong number, so I'll call you tomorrow...

Grampa · 02-07-2004, 09:05 PM

Just a quick update... Motor is in, mounts are made and welded up, and tranny is bolted up. I had to chop the shifter hole farther forward 4", and cut off the bottom of the heater box, but it all went in slick. I ended up using the stock trooper engine mounts. Raised them up 1 14", then made a plate that bolts to the chev block in the stock chev mount holes, and extends back to the stock troop mounts. I forgot my digi at home, but I'll be pulling everything out again for clean-up and paint, so I'll get some pics then. Ive got lots of room for the HEI dist. but room for the rad is at a premium. I'll be mounting it right behind the grill like Matt did, and run hood pins.
Matt, if I for get to call you, give me a ring at the shop... 604 855-9666

Independent4x · 02-09-2004, 06:34 AM

uh.....pics

you're killing us

GonZu · 02-09-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by TrooperRS
you're killing us

You are too dude

I need pics of this forward mounted radiator, brackets, and hood pins

HowTF are you guys protecting the aluminum radiator ?
chickenwire ?

Grampa · 02-09-2004, 07:21 PM

Ya Matt, your website project pics havent been updated in a while... None of those "I've been moving..." excuses or "I've been way to busy at the shop" please

hehehe JK. I keep forgetting the Digi at home and I cant post pics of a greasy 283 and leaky 465, not to mention the shit-hole mess of left over wires and vaccuum hoses(WTF was Isuzu thinking?

) that I havent stripped from the engine comp.

once its all cleaned up and pic worthy, I'll be a post whore for a bit so dont worry... they will be along shortly

Grampa · 02-09-2004, 07:26 PM

Here

How would you like to tow your rig in here?

I'm putting in full living quarters with shower/toilet, fridge, stove, hot water, satellite, plasma TV, overhead engine hoist,dual sleeping bunks on second level, outside BBQ and heater quick-connects, A/C, electric awning w/ built in lights,etc... inside measurements are 32 ft long, 10 ft high and 8 ft wide

Independent4x · 02-10-2004, 10:48 AM

WHINERS..............

I HAD LIKE 300 PICS ON MY fawkin' CAMERS..THOUGHT I WAS "TRANSFERING THEM TO MY COMPUTER" BUT I ACTUALLY DELEATED THEM..............................UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH H!!!!

that was like november or so..............pissed me off

anyway, here are a few that i still have:

Independent4x · 02-10-2004, 10:49 AM

another

Independent4x · 02-10-2004, 10:50 AM

another:

GonZu · 02-10-2004, 05:11 PM

I'm serious about protection for the radiator.

I've had 1" rocks crack the windshield.
What would it do to an aluminum radiator ?

OhShit, I said that outloud

Gracias

Grampa · 02-12-2004, 10:17 PM

new pics
Engine looks small in the hole

Mount design. It'll get trimmed and beautified when I remove everything to clean and paint

I modified the shift rail in my 205 for twin stick. Ultra easy mod

Tonite I got my trans crossmember mocked up... It'll hang down ~ 2" from the bottom of the frame in the center

Independent4x · 02-17-2004, 06:57 AM

interesting motor mount design.

is that 5/8" plate (i hope)

what is all that IFS shite still doing in the way

Grampa · 02-20-2004, 07:17 PM

Its 1/2" x 6" w x 8"L plate. The motor mount bolt is onlt 1 1/4" from where the plate mounts to the motor so I dont think it'll bend... besides, I'm "chaining" down the motor with 1/2" aircraft cable so there will be less pull on the plate. AF runs the same setup in his S10 with a 400 whp motor, but with 2.5" between mount points. He races it regularly at the track with no probs after 3 yrs.

That IFS "shit" is holding my wheels on so I can roll it in and out of the shop

Seriously though, I got my front spring hangers fabbed and mounted today and tomorrow I do the rear shackle hangers. I should have it sitting on the new springs, axles and 37's by next saturday.

I'm only moving the axle 2" forward, and will deal with any rubbing issues with a BFH and/or torch and welder. my rear axle will be back 2" also for a 108" WB.

Does anyone have pics of how they did spring perches on the waggy diff housing?(pass side) My axle was SUA and I need to go SOA, but am a little iffy of just welding to the cast housing... I heard it aint so strong doing that.

I still havent found a propane tank to fit between the framerails where the gas tank used to be, but I'll figure something out there. I'm thinking maybe out of a Bronco or F150...

ZU · 02-20-2004, 09:25 PM

I might have to make a trip up to BC and take a look at that sometime. I'm working on the same swap with a TH350 and i'm having issues with gatting the rad mounted.

Independent4x · 02-23-2004, 11:50 AM

ok...sounds like you got your bases covered on the motor mount......looks like a very simple solution....so i like that.

should hold up fine.

psyched to see some 37's on your rig

Kuranosuke · 02-23-2004, 05:15 PM

I went and saw Joel's rig on Saturday, and it is going to be top notch! Yes, Joel, it was nice to meet you too...

Joel was also nice enough to let a little bad ass from his truck rub off on mine. Feel free to keep on changing yours so I can vulture all your stuff...

Oh yeah, you remember that little leak I told you about? The new 2 row replacement radiator will be here on Wednesday. 1000 miles in 3 days turned out to be a little more than she could handle...

Grampa · 02-23-2004, 08:58 PM

Nice to meet you too Jon! Too bad about the rad, I had mine sitting in the corner

Did they hassle you at the border?

Zu, any time you wanna come up feel free... let me know in advance and you can crash at my house. I havent got to the rad fitment yet, hopefully in a week or 2 but I'll let you know when I get to that point.

Just did a little looking today and my twin sticks will fit perfectly in the original xfercase shifter hole. One less thing to worry about. Also my chev front driveshaft works out perfectly for length according to my measurements, so I might not have to worry about lengthening it.

01-31-2004, 11:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Project SBC new pics Well the swap has started. The motor and tranny are out, as are the front CV's/diff. I left the a-arms and outers on so I can keep the front wheels on til I get everything done except the front axle. First order of business next weekend is fitting the 283/465/205 combo... The 283 will be running on propane, so I also have to find and fit a tank somewhere... I have everthing else, just need a newish tank now. I've also decided to stick with leafs for the SAS just to keep the down-time of my rig to a minimum. I'll be using the stock rear trooper springs up front, and a set of 2003 F150 spring in the rear(56" long) This will move the rear axle back ~2 1/2 " and I'll also be moving the front axle forward. Once the motor etc is in and the springs are in up front and rear, I'm going to see if I can do the front SUA without major steering link/ oilpan clearance probs then match with SOA in the rear... I want to keep as low as possible and will trimm as much as needed to fit the 37"s I'll be getting this month. After the driveline is done and it runs/drives, the next step is chopping off the rear roof area and bringing it to Camrock for the exo... I have way too much shit to do now... I gotta get some help I think!!!! Anyone want to come to Canada to help??? __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s Last edited by Grampa; 03-07-2004 at 10:03 PM.

02-01-2004, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Shit! I'm only 40 min. from Vancouver and 2 min. from the Can/US border... San Juan is fawking beautiful... __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-01-2004, 09:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	I just got back from a foot of fresh pow at Hemlock resort just near me, and yup my garage is heated... 12ft doors, 44ft long by 42 ft wide. full air tools, wood working tools, 180 mig, chopsaw, grinders, torches and on and on I own an RV repair shop so I gotta have room for the big bling A class busses __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-02-2004, 08:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Kuranosuke, the diff is out. Give me a call or I'll call you... mmmmmmmmmm... lockers __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-07-2004, 09:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Just a quick update... Motor is in, mounts are made and welded up, and tranny is bolted up. I had to chop the shifter hole farther forward 4", and cut off the bottom of the heater box, but it all went in slick. I ended up using the stock trooper engine mounts. Raised them up 1 14", then made a plate that bolts to the chev block in the stock chev mount holes, and extends back to the stock troop mounts. I forgot my digi at home, but I'll be pulling everything out again for clean-up and paint, so I'll get some pics then. Ive got lots of room for the HEI dist. but room for the rad is at a premium. I'll be mounting it right behind the grill like Matt did, and run hood pins. Matt, if I for get to call you, give me a ring at the shop... 604 855-9666 __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-01-2004, 12:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kuranosuke Ship Driver Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20378 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 390	If only I was closer, man... I'd be there... Anyway, I'm glad to hear you're making progress. You know what I'm waiting for...

02-02-2004, 08:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kuranosuke Ship Driver Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20378 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 390	Ok, I sent you a PM on the wire. I think I gave you the wrong number, so I'll call you tomorrow...

02-09-2004, 06:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	uh.....pics you're killing us __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-09-2004, 07:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Ya Matt, your website project pics havent been updated in a while... None of those "I've been moving..." excuses or "I've been way to busy at the shop" please hehehe JK. I keep forgetting the Digi at home and I cant post pics of a greasy 283 and leaky 465, not to mention the shit-hole mess of left over wires and vaccuum hoses(WTF was Isuzu thinking? ) that I havent stripped from the engine comp. once its all cleaned up and pic worthy, I'll be a post whore for a bit so dont worry... they will be along shortly __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-09-2004, 07:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Here How would you like to tow your rig in here? I'm putting in full living quarters with shower/toilet, fridge, stove, hot water, satellite, plasma TV, overhead engine hoist,dual sleeping bunks on second level, outside BBQ and heater quick-connects, A/C, electric awning w/ built in lights,etc... inside measurements are 32 ft long, 10 ft high and 8 ft wide __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s Last edited by Grampa; 02-09-2004 at 07:34 PM.

02-10-2004, 10:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	WHINERS.............. I HAD LIKE 300 PICS ON MY fawkin' CAMERS..THOUGHT I WAS "TRANSFERING THEM TO MY COMPUTER" BUT I ACTUALLY DELEATED THEM..............................UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH H!!!! that was like november or so..............pissed me off anyway, here are a few that i still have: Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-10-2004, 10:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	another Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-10-2004, 10:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	another: Attached Images __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-10-2004, 05:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
GonZu Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12056 Location: NC Posts: 162	I'm serious about protection for the radiator. I've had 1" rocks crack the windshield. What would it do to an aluminum radiator ? OhShit, I said that outloud Gracias

02-12-2004, 10:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	new pics Engine looks small in the hole Mount design. It'll get trimmed and beautified when I remove everything to clean and paint I modified the shift rail in my 205 for twin stick. Ultra easy mod Tonite I got my trans crossmember mocked up... It'll hang down ~ 2" from the bottom of the frame in the center __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-17-2004, 06:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	interesting motor mount design. is that 5/8" plate (i hope) what is all that IFS shite still doing in the way __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-20-2004, 07:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Its 1/2" x 6" w x 8"L plate. The motor mount bolt is onlt 1 1/4" from where the plate mounts to the motor so I dont think it'll bend... besides, I'm "chaining" down the motor with 1/2" aircraft cable so there will be less pull on the plate. AF runs the same setup in his S10 with a 400 whp motor, but with 2.5" between mount points. He races it regularly at the track with no probs after 3 yrs. That IFS "shit" is holding my wheels on so I can roll it in and out of the shop Seriously though, I got my front spring hangers fabbed and mounted today and tomorrow I do the rear shackle hangers. I should have it sitting on the new springs, axles and 37's by next saturday. I'm only moving the axle 2" forward, and will deal with any rubbing issues with a BFH and/or torch and welder. my rear axle will be back 2" also for a 108" WB. Does anyone have pics of how they did spring perches on the waggy diff housing?(pass side) My axle was SUA and I need to go SOA, but am a little iffy of just welding to the cast housing... I heard it aint so strong doing that. I still havent found a propane tank to fit between the framerails where the gas tank used to be, but I'll figure something out there. I'm thinking maybe out of a Bronco or F150... __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

02-20-2004, 09:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
ZU Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2747 Location: Oak Harbor, WA Posts: 965	I might have to make a trip up to BC and take a look at that sometime. I'm working on the same swap with a TH350 and i'm having issues with gatting the rad mounted. __________________ -Jesse AKA ZU '89 Isuzu Trooper (wheelin rig), '42 Willys MB (extended work in progress), '94 Chev K2500 (tow rig), '72 Chev C10 (the hotrod)

02-23-2004, 11:50 AM	#23 (permalink)
Independent4x technical expert Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8755 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 2,188	ok...sounds like you got your bases covered on the motor mount......looks like a very simple solution....so i like that. should hold up fine. psyched to see some 37's on your rig __________________ Matt, Owner: Independent4x www.independent4x.com 804-550-0480: 9am-6pm EST UFWDA Life Member - http://www.ufwda.org/ Full Service Fabrication Shop & Retail Store located in Richmond, Va. for all your OffRoad needs: featuring Sway-A-Way, WARN, ARB/OME, AEV, Advance Adapters, TeraFlex, Trailready, Currie, QA1, Beard Seats, Interco Tire, D.O.M. Tube to length, etc. - call or PM

02-23-2004, 05:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
Kuranosuke Ship Driver Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20378 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 390	I went and saw Joel's rig on Saturday, and it is going to be top notch! Yes, Joel, it was nice to meet you too... Joel was also nice enough to let a little bad ass from his truck rub off on mine. Feel free to keep on changing yours so I can vulture all your stuff... Oh yeah, you remember that little leak I told you about? The new 2 row replacement radiator will be here on Wednesday. 1000 miles in 3 days turned out to be a little more than she could handle... Last edited by Kuranosuke; 02-23-2004 at 05:17 PM.

02-23-2004, 08:58 PM	#25 (permalink)
Grampa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20695 Location: BC Canada Posts: 188	Nice to meet you too Jon! Too bad about the rad, I had mine sitting in the corner Did they hassle you at the border? Zu, any time you wanna come up feel free... let me know in advance and you can crash at my house. I havent got to the rad fitment yet, hopefully in a week or 2 but I'll let you know when I get to that point. Just did a little looking today and my twin sticks will fit perfectly in the original xfercase shifter hole. One less thing to worry about. Also my chev front driveshaft works out perfectly for length according to my measurements, so I might not have to worry about lengthening it. __________________ 89 Trooper Supercrew 283/SM465/np205 twinstick burning BBQ juice on 37"s

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