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Old 12-04-2008, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1997 Rodeo Lift..

i was wanting to do 33/12.50/r15s and all i could find was a 3"Calmini lift kit for my rodeo ... my local 4x4 shop told me if i do a 3" lift on my rodeo then im gonna blow thru cvjoints/axels like all the time. im even good running 31/10.50/r15s but i still wanted a liift... another option was a solid front axel but thats alota work and money invloved...any ideas? anyone been through this before? all the info and help would be much appreciated.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Check outhttp://www.independent4x.com/ then call Matt and order parts.......you'll need a suspension lift and 3"B/L then trim the front fenders alittle bit.......install manual hubs and go wheel..........for more inspiration check out http://planetisuzoo.com
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Call matt at independent4x you will love his service you will get and prices are very competative. Don
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I would just do the SAS and be done with it.. thats my 2cents..
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The time, complexity, and expense of a SAS for 33's is not a worthwhile trade, IMHO. If you want to help the CV's live, make (or have made) some differential drop brackets and install them. Here is a great article that decribes how to install them:

http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewto...203&highlight=

Making them is easy if you can fabricate at all. Just cut off the rectangular part of the bracket that the bolts and axle go through, space it down a bit (I did 1.25"), add a filler piece and weld it all back together. The crossmember will need modified or replaced as well depending on how big of a drop you go. With just 1.25", I was able to modify the existing crossmember.
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Mine is sat on 33x12.5x15, on early amigo rims.
Fitted with trooper rear coils and the torsion bars cranked up.
bit of cutting of the front arches and I don't get any rubbing issues

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Also got this sat on 37's bit more work involved to get the wheels to clear everything but they fit and don't rub at all. need to change the ratio's tho

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Old 12-06-2008, 06:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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there's your first problem.

STOP ASKING LOCAL SHOPS FOR ISUZU INFO

i guarantee they don't know shit about them, cause they ain't a heep/ford/toy/ etc... and their comment proves it. you could run 35's if you wanted.

keep asking online, find your info and go back and TELL them what you want. quit asking the blind man for advice on paint color.

www.planetisuzoo.com
www.4x4wire.com
www.mwior.com

and here.

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Old 12-06-2008, 07:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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sas

Dont waste your time on anything but a sas. Mine has a toyota axel up front, it's been to Moab and Rubicon with no prpblems. Drives great with 35's

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options

i have an 89 Trooper. all above are good options. here's some more, and this is what i did. 3" body lift, cranked torsion bars about 1" to clear 33 x 12.50's on 15 x 10 wheels. shackle lift in the rear to even it out. welded the front and rear.

but i didn't care about breaking anything b/c as soon as i broke the front i was going to do an SAS. (decided on sas before i broke the front) it would go just about anywhere.

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Old 12-07-2008, 12:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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you need to think about what you are going to us the vehicle for. If it is for some serious off roading then SAS is the only way to go. If you want an everyday motor then a torsion bar crank will do the job. rear trooper coils will lift the arse end enough to level things out.
torsion bar and a rear end lift will see you through most things, you may get a little bit of rubbing in the most extreme cases, but if you are looking to run 33's then serious off roading isn't your first thought. if you want to go really into the wilderness then 31's are probably your best bet.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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rear trooper coils will lift the arse end enough to level things out
see what did i tell you, you get good intentioned, wrong info -

the 97 rodeo has leafs in the rear and t-bars up front.

i run a 99 with 33's on IFS and it suits me just fine, problem with the second gens is our wheel wells are smaller the 33's are a tight fit without a body lift you need a 3-4" coil lift to clear them. the first gens (arguably though you have a gen 1.5 as you got the newer dash, more similar to the 98+ rodeos than the 96- ones) have bigger wheel wells to fit bigger tires but the front can't get cranked up as much as the second gens. 33's are easy to fit.

installing manual hubs will fix the cv issue. get old trooper ones (AISINS) used for 75 bucks.

you can get some shackles for the rear, crank your front up, don't forget to flip your ball joints and you're good to go. with a bit or sawzalling you could even run 35's.

here is a 97 on 34s with no rubbing

(it's demote4x4 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2530928/2 he's on www.planetisuzoo.com)





EDIT: tommo70 i know see that you are in the UK which if i am correct there on rodeos at that time i believe ran a 4 link in the rear much earlier than the US ,which would mean a 97 in the UK would be a coil / link but a 97 US would be leaf, no?
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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EDIT: tommo70 i know see that you are in the UK which if i am correct there on rodeos at that time i believe ran a 4 link in the rear much earlier than the US ,which would mean a 97 in the UK would be a coil / link but a 97 US would be leaf, no?
Actually it's a 3 link like our Troopers and the VX use
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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ah! thats right...

as a hijack, can you run a trooper/vx 3 link in the rear of a 2nd gen rodeo to clear the gas tank or does it have to be custom one off like bigpoppax2's
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that's what we did,made a mount for top of pumkin(just like the 12bolts) and then we had to make a crossmember to mimic the one on a troop/vx.(kinda sort of) since the gas tank was in the way it comes off just one frame rail and is triagulated back to the frame.

If you moved the gastank you could just do a regular crossmember,it would be a neat way to take a 12bolt out of a trooper and make a crossmember and coil buckets and stick it under say a 1st gen Amigo or Rodeo.

The lower arms aren't as long as a troopers or VX's but, it still works good.

Only real difference is the mounting location of the panhard bar,it's on opposite sides frame/rearend,works good tho'.
We had Smileys VX(lifting it at same time) and had Tad's Trooper rearend(I was doing the panhard bar lift on it. and Tads Trooper there to look at.

It would have to be custom one-off since our frames on this side of the pond don't have the brackets etc.

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Old 12-30-2008, 05:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Trooper springs on 01 rodeo

TROOPER springs Will these alone provide enough lift for 32" rubber?

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Old 12-31-2008, 10:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My CV's seem to hold up under the stress of 33-12.5-15's
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as of mid 1995 both amigo's and rodeo's (frontera's in the UK) swapped to coil sprung 3 link rear axles with disc brakes.
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