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Chaps · 10-27-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl

Just slides over it. The plan is to make a retainer clip like on the factory axle.

I got ya , that makes sence.

jkl · 10-28-2011, 08:41 AM

Pass side

jkl · 10-28-2011, 03:47 PM

Started cleaning up the frame to plate it and making a duct tape template

jkl · 10-30-2011, 12:08 PM

Laid the front frame plate template out on some 1/8" steel

Still need to trim them up a bit to fit better and drill rosette holes.

jkl · 11-20-2011, 05:41 PM

Just got done placing these orders:

Barnes 4WD - 2 DOM sleeves w/bushings, adj. upper link mount, axle link tower and frame link mounts

Liquid Iron Ind. - 2 Johnny Joints and DIY front bumper brackets

Clayton Offroad - 4 square tube inserts, 4 jam nuts and 6 bolts, washers, nuts

Also got the front axle back under the Jeep today. Shooting for front axle placement somewhere around here.

XJsavage · 11-21-2011, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl

Pass side

Just wondering what your plan was for a axle end trac bar bracket. I'm in the same boat as you are on this one, and was looking at the possibility of using a stand off bracket on the section of axle tube and have it come up and angle out. It looks as though it could be done without interference from the tie rod and drag link, but of course I don't have it right in front of me either.

Byron@XSPower · 11-21-2011, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl

Laid the front frame plate template out on some 1/8" steel

Still need to trim them up a bit to fit better and drill rosette holes.

Never seen the duct tape template. How do you get it off the frame?

mcg311TJ · 11-21-2011, 08:35 AM

Why are you using 1/8" up front instead 3/16" to plate the uni ?? Is it because of the light wheeling you do,

or are you trying to save weight? I see alot of rigs with the 1/8" on the back uni, But also alot are using 3/16" up front. Now I'm sure either will do a great job making the unibody stronger. Btw, it's looking good man!

jkl · 11-21-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJsavage

Just wondering what your plan was for a axle end trac bar bracket. I'm in the same boat as you are on this one, and was looking at the possibility of using a stand off bracket on the section of axle tube and have it come up and angle out. It looks as though it could be done without interference from the tie rod and drag link, but of course I don't have it right in front of me either.

Going to try and mount it next to the coil spring first, second option is to use a angle mount like from Ruff Stuff in front of the coil mount and third option would be mount it on the diff cover like Timmay did. Once I get the axle its location I'll see what works the best.

jkl · 11-21-2011, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron@XSPower

Never seen the duct tape template. How do you get it off the frame?

Basically just laid 2 layers of duct tape to the frame, trimmed it and then started at one corner and pulled it off.

jkl · 11-21-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcg311TJ

Why are you using 1/8" up front instead 3/16" to plate the uni ??

Because I already had enough 1/8" plate to make them and not enough 3/16"

Is it because of the light wheeling you do,

My light wheeling is more hardcore than your web wheeling

or are you trying to save weight?

Yes

I see alot of rigs with the 1/8" on the back uni, But also alot are using 3/16" up front. Now I'm sure either will do a great job making the unibody stronger.

I've quite a few guys use 1/8" on the front also and they don't seem to have any issues

Btw, it's looking good man!

Thanks Biotch, I'll let you ride in the back when its done

.

XJsavage · 11-21-2011, 02:14 PM

Gotcha. On my 44 front I ended up doing the option "1", built on top of a truss. In heinsight I wish I had gone with the option "2" simply for reasons of clearance between the frame and trackbar at full bump. At full bump it get pretty damn close to the oil pan also. Option "2" would have required me to trim off the front of the coil bucket and use a stand off bracket like offered by Barnes4WD. Mine is around 4" of stretch and 4" lift with the 44 and option "2" would work fine, and I could see it being close to the same with a 60 front.
Good luck with it, I'll be looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

mcg311TJ · 11-21-2011, 04:33 PM

Backseat is the best

jkl · 11-29-2011, 04:49 PM

More parts arrived yesterday! Just waiting on the 2 Johnny Joints being drop shipped from Currie. Started welding on the driver side frame stiffener tonight, no pics though.

EmptyPockets07 · 11-30-2011, 09:23 AM

That duct tape template thing was pretty cool.

Carry on.

2doorxj · 11-30-2011, 06:43 PM

What are you using to cut that 1/8 plate?

Also for your frame stiffeners is that 3x3?

Lookin gooooooood

jkl · 12-01-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2doorxj

What are you using to cut that 1/8 plate? Circular saw and a angle grinder with a cut off wheel

Also for your frame stiffeners is that 3x3? Yes 3/16" thick

Lookin gooooooood Thanks!

.

tactical40cal · 12-01-2011, 10:00 PM

Nice work! Keep the updates coming!

jkl · 12-03-2011, 01:51 PM

My other 2 JJs arrived on Thurs! Today I finished welding up the drivers side frame stiffener. Heres a crappy cell pic.

bbrancheau · 12-04-2011, 07:21 AM

very nice..

i have same set up just used Dodge 60 and AX15.. keep up good work.

My build
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=165256

jkl · 12-07-2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrancheau

very nice..

i have same set up just used Dodge 60 and AX15.. keep up good work.

My build
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=165256

Thanks! Took a peek at yours, looks good.

jkl · 12-09-2011, 12:34 PM

Over the last few days I've got to work on it here and there. Plated part of the inner frame with 1/8" plate the used a piece of 3 x 3/16" angle over that and butted it up to the frame stiffener. Plated a small section of the floor with 1/8" to tie the mount into the floor. Had to modify the Barnes upper link mount a bit cause it was a little to big. Just a little cut and bend and it fit better. Have about 4 1/2" vertical seperation on the frame end and about 8" on the axle end. Lower link is going to be roughly 36.5" long and upper about 36".

jkl · 12-10-2011, 10:36 AM

Placed an order with Ruff Stuff last night for their track bar kit. Hopefully I can pick up a stick of 2x1/4" tubing soon and get this thing back together soon. After that it should be just driveshafts and tie up a few loose ends to take it for a test drive.

bbrancheau · 12-10-2011, 01:56 PM

" Lower link is going to be roughly 36.5" long and upper about 36"."

Is this eye to eye? or just link length? I just mesured mine to make them and link length was 36" and with the joint on each end its 38" over all.

my build
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=165256

jkl · 12-10-2011, 02:08 PM

That's eye to eye. Too short?

10-28-2011, 08:41 AM	#52 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Pass side __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

10-28-2011, 03:47 PM	#53 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Started cleaning up the frame to plate it and making a duct tape template __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

10-30-2011, 12:08 PM	#54 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Laid the front frame plate template out on some 1/8" steel Still need to trim them up a bit to fit better and drill rosette holes. __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

11-20-2011, 05:41 PM	#55 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Just got done placing these orders: Barnes 4WD - 2 DOM sleeves w/bushings, adj. upper link mount, axle link tower and frame link mounts Liquid Iron Ind. - 2 Johnny Joints and DIY front bumper brackets Clayton Offroad - 4 square tube inserts, 4 jam nuts and 6 bolts, washers, nuts Also got the front axle back under the Jeep today. Shooting for front axle placement somewhere around here. __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

11-21-2011, 02:14 PM	#62 (permalink)
XJsavage Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 176679 Location: Fairfield county SC Posts: 122	Gotcha. On my 44 front I ended up doing the option "1", built on top of a truss. In heinsight I wish I had gone with the option "2" simply for reasons of clearance between the frame and trackbar at full bump. At full bump it get pretty damn close to the oil pan also. Option "2" would have required me to trim off the front of the coil bucket and use a stand off bracket like offered by Barnes4WD. Mine is around 4" of stretch and 4" lift with the 44 and option "2" would work fine, and I could see it being close to the same with a 60 front. Good luck with it, I'll be looking forward to seeing what you come up with. __________________ 99 TJ 6.0/4L80E/205/Chevy60/14/40's Last edited by XJsavage; 11-21-2011 at 02:16 PM.

11-21-2011, 08:35 AM	#58 (permalink)
mcg311TJ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 146965 Posts: 7	Why are you using 1/8" up front instead 3/16" to plate the uni ?? Is it because of the light wheeling you do, or are you trying to save weight? I see alot of rigs with the 1/8" on the back uni, But also alot are using 3/16" up front. Now I'm sure either will do a great job making the unibody stronger. Btw, it's looking good man!

11-21-2011, 04:33 PM	#63 (permalink)
mcg311TJ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 146965 Posts: 7	Backseat is the best

11-29-2011, 04:49 PM	#64 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	More parts arrived yesterday! Just waiting on the 2 Johnny Joints being drop shipped from Currie. Started welding on the driver side frame stiffener tonight, no pics though. __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

11-30-2011, 09:23 AM	#65 (permalink)
EmptyPockets07 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Member # 188425 Posts: 19	That duct tape template thing was pretty cool. Carry on.

11-30-2011, 06:43 PM	#66 (permalink)
2doorxj Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 182406 Location: NJ Posts: 57	What are you using to cut that 1/8 plate? Also for your frame stiffeners is that 3x3? Lookin gooooooood

12-01-2011, 10:00 PM	#68 (permalink)
tactical40cal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 184322 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 5	Nice work! Keep the updates coming!

12-03-2011, 01:51 PM	#69 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	My other 2 JJs arrived on Thurs! Today I finished welding up the drivers side frame stiffener. Heres a crappy cell pic. __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

12-04-2011, 07:21 AM	#70 (permalink)
bbrancheau Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 175896 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 27	very nice.. i have same set up just used Dodge 60 and AX15.. keep up good work. My build http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=165256

12-09-2011, 12:34 PM	#72 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Over the last few days I've got to work on it here and there. Plated part of the inner frame with 1/8" plate the used a piece of 3 x 3/16" angle over that and butted it up to the frame stiffener. Plated a small section of the floor with 1/8" to tie the mount into the floor. Had to modify the Barnes upper link mount a bit cause it was a little to big. Just a little cut and bend and it fit better. Have about 4 1/2" vertical seperation on the frame end and about 8" on the axle end. Lower link is going to be roughly 36.5" long and upper about 36". __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

12-10-2011, 10:36 AM	#73 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Placed an order with Ruff Stuff last night for their track bar kit. Hopefully I can pick up a stick of 2x1/4" tubing soon and get this thing back together soon. After that it should be just driveshafts and tie up a few loose ends to take it for a test drive. __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE] Last edited by jkl; 12-10-2011 at 10:37 AM.

12-10-2011, 01:56 PM	#74 (permalink)
bbrancheau Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 175896 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 27	" Lower link is going to be roughly 36.5" long and upper about 36"." Is this eye to eye? or just link length? I just mesured mine to make them and link length was 36" and with the joint on each end its 38" over all. my build http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=165256

12-10-2011, 02:08 PM	#75 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	That's eye to eye. Too short? __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

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