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Old 02-21-2012, 09:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Grand cherokee portal axle?

Please help!

I have a Grand cherokee 5,2 MPI 1995 and want to put in it portal axle from a Unimog.

Can somme one send me summe info and all so pics witch can help me.

Thanks a lot!
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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They should bolt right up I'm thinkin
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That why I ask how to make it and which parts of the truck I have to change?
I never make before that kinds of things.
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... and which parts of the truck I have to change?
I never make before that kinds of things.
1 - You have to change the hole undercarriage.
2 - You`d better find yourself a "theatcher" before anything nasty happens.

he first thing that i found: Jeep Grand Cherokee "GrandUnimog" testdrive 1; 4x4 Lithuania - YouTube
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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you never trully appreciate these threads until you realize it's Tuesday...

for the most part it will bolt right up, and what doesn't bolt up can just be welded to the super strong underbody of the grandcherokee.
only thing to consider is moving the front axle forward about 2feet so the centered pumpkin doesn't interfere with the engines oil pan... or you could just move the oil pan back 2feet... whichever you find easier.
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you never trully appreciate these threads until you realize it's Tuesday...

for the most part it will bolt right up, and what doesn't bolt up can just be welded to the super strong underbody of the grandcherokee.
only thing to consider is moving the front axle forward about 2feet so the centered pumpkin doesn't interfere with the engines oil pan... or you could just move the oil pan back 2feet... whichever you find easier.
Stop and think for a minute.

Does it seem like the OP 'iddn frum aroun theez hyear parts'?

Maybe the guy isn't so good with the english because he is from another country.
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Stop and think for a minute.

Does it seem like the OP 'iddn frum aroun theez hyear parts'?

Maybe the guy isn't so good with the english because he is from another country.
That would be my assumption.

There is an xj on mogs build in this section, that could be helpful, but it's a bitch to search on my phone.
Found it:
http://mobile.pirate4x4.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=991739

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And so – in the interest of honest to goodness tech, instead of just trying to flex some e-nuts to show everyone how bad ass we are.

OP: first of all, get used to using the search function of this website – it will be greatly helpful to you as you modify your Grand Cherokee. Not just in the conversion you are discussing right now (portal axles) but also when you eventually want to make other changes to it – which you will, as time goes on.

Now – if I were in your situation, I would decide everything based on tire size, terrain, and parts availability.

Are you in Germany or Norther Europe where Volvo or Unimog portal axles are available and still somewhat plentiful?

If so – I would probably consider buying a TJ axle bracket kit from one of the many vendors on this site and putting those brackets on a set of unimog axles. I won’t go into specific on which ‘mogs’ you might want – that’s what the search function is for.

However, if you are in a place where portal axles are rare, and spare parts are impossible to get; then I would consider one of the portal box kits that are floating around for sale. I am not sure if any are fully in production yet – but in your situation, I would be trussing the stock axles and finding or building portal boxes.

Now – I want to ask again, what terrain and speed range are you interested in – because it just may be that tracked conversion is something you should consider. There are a few great threads on that subject on here as well. That would be a great way to increase ground clearance and gearing while using the stock axles and suspension. I would still truss them, though.
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You'd be better off just buying a Unimog.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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thank you all for opinions and assistance.

I need a jeep to hunt deep in the forest .... and for this I need to raise 100-120 km.

will not do serious off-road ..... (to climb rocks) ...

I just want to put big tires ..... for more height ..

but for this i need stronger portal axle...
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what else needs to be replaced ....? I ask you because i need to buy everything I need, before i entered the garage ......

I live in Bulgaria and I have no problem finding the parts ..
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Do you need tires larger than 35's? Because if you aren't climbing big rocks, all you need to do is put decent parts in your stock axles and run some 35" tires.

Easy-peasy.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I think TO put quite large ..... see this and tell your opinion ... http://en.trecol.ru/shini/1280530_533/#center ;-)

I just want to make a real freak ........
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thank you all for opinions and assistance.

I need a jeep to hunt deep in the forest .... and for this I need to raise 100-120 km.

will not do serious off-road ..... (to climb rocks) ...

I just want to put big tires ..... for more height ..

but for this i need stronger portal axle...
For what you're describing, you don't need portal axles.
Buy a suspension lift kit, a rear locker & some 35" Mud Tires on 15x8 wheels
and you'll be able to go hunting deep in the forest.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think TO put quite large ..... see this and tell your opinion ... http://en.trecol.ru/shini/1280530_533/#center ;-)

I just want to make a real freak ........
Those tires are WAY too big, those are flotation tires used to traverse deep snow terrain in the artic circle, not designed to be used in the forest.

I think u need a better game plan....
Or just buy a Samuri or Nissan Patrol and put mud tires on it and give it hell.
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This has to be a troll.
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