Anyone convert a 4x2 to 4x4? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

MAJORNUGGETS · 05-08-2007, 08:49 AM

My buddy has a 1998 Cherokee that is a 2wd with 90k on the engine...solid body and good running engine...

Has anyone done this and how much of a pain is it, how much does it run and is it worth the money or should he look for a used 4x4?

We have the know how and the tools just wondering if the parts would total up more than a reliable used 4x4?

Thanks...

vetteboy79 · 05-08-2007, 08:54 AM

Yeah, I did it, summer of '02 before I knew anything about wheeling.

It's easy if you have the parts, the time, and the money. "worth the money" obviously depends on how much your parts cost which varies greatly by region and condition.

This is certainly not hardcore tech though.

MAJORNUGGETS · 05-08-2007, 01:53 PM

Can you give me an idea of how much it cost you? and how long it took?

pipehitter155 · 05-08-2007, 02:02 PM

i imagine all you would need is a dana 30 out of a 4wd Xj and 231J w/ shifter from a 4x4 XJ everything else should be there as far as the wiring harness i would think...if not grab that .....i would say at the cost of my pnp prices here where i live:

$200 for the front axle
$40 for the front drive shaft
$200 for the tcase (i think)
and the misc. wiring

probably around $500-600 i would think...

Timmay · 05-08-2007, 02:34 PM

You'll need a new tranny, or at least the tailhousing and tailshaft from a 4wd tranny. The new tranny is definatly the better and less painful option IMO.

heepr · 05-08-2007, 07:05 PM

I did it about 5 years ago and it ended up costing over $1300 all said and done. Included tranny, tcase, driveshafts, both axles to match ratios, shifters and linkage, etc. Now I'd say that it's a good idea only if you're upgrading axles/tranny/tcase anyways when buying a cheaper 2wd version of the same vehicle for less money..

pipehitter155 · 05-08-2007, 07:08 PM

i stand corrected....

TJP · 05-08-2007, 08:41 PM

I can sure tell it's Tuesday.... Welcome to the new JU...

redzj · 05-09-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TJP

I can sure tell it's Tuesday.... Welcome to the new JU...

I think your right there. I am not sure there is hope.

Xjcrawler736 · 05-09-2007, 09:40 AM

Maybe Lance could give TJP the power of being a mod. so he can move these things into the right part of the forum.

gottagofast · 05-09-2007, 09:57 AM

better yet give the search feature back to non paying members and require a star to post

Xjcrawler736 · 05-09-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gottagofast

better yet give the search feature back to non paying members and require a star to post

I'm game for that

Go_Vols · 05-09-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmay

You'll need a new tranny, or at least the tailhousing and tailshaft from a 4wd tranny. The new tranny is definatly the better and less painful option IMO.

X2. We converted a 2wd to a 4wd a few years back... '02 as well I believe. Get the tranny and install it... converting sucks.

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Originally Posted by TJP

I can sure tell it's Tuesday.... Welcome to the new JU...

No, just welcome to the Cherokee forum.

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Originally Posted by Xjcrawler736

Maybe Lance could give TJP the power of being a mod. so he can move these things into the right part of the forum.

This the right part of the forum - doesn't Cherokee = Newbie?

TJP · 05-09-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gottagofast

better yet give the search feature back to non paying members and require a star to post

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Originally Posted by Xjcrawler736

I'm game for that

X 3

Go_Vols · 05-09-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TJP

Read the following....

This forum is meant for HARDCORE XJ,MJ,and other wagon tech and info.

Non-hardcore Jeep = Newbie

Put your post where it belongs and you might just get helped you out....

Read the following quotes. If you don't know who the people who posted them are you are a newbie and don't belong here...

I'm sorry, is this lecture meant for me?

Go_Vols · 05-09-2007, 06:33 PM

Aside from the fact that you're wasting your breath? Not much. Not much at all.

XJMarty · 05-10-2007, 04:43 AM

OMG!!

This HC thingy is reallly important

05-08-2007, 08:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
MAJORNUGGETS Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 90878 Posts: 2	Anyone convert a 4x2 to 4x4? My buddy has a 1998 Cherokee that is a 2wd with 90k on the engine...solid body and good running engine... Has anyone done this and how much of a pain is it, how much does it run and is it worth the money or should he look for a used 4x4? We have the know how and the tools just wondering if the parts would total up more than a reliable used 4x4? Thanks...

05-08-2007, 08:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
vetteboy79 Pigs Fly Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31621 Location: Morganville, NJ Posts: 5,717	Yeah, I did it, summer of '02 before I knew anything about wheeling. It's easy if you have the parts, the time, and the money. "worth the money" obviously depends on how much your parts cost which varies greatly by region and condition. This is certainly not hardcore tech though. __________________ '94 XJ RIP, time to move on New East Coast TTB racer in the works, trimmin' the fat... Flying Pig Racing #512

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pipehitter155 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Member # 73680 Location: by da beach boiieeeeee....va beach, va Posts: 2,028	i imagine all you would need is a dana 30 out of a 4wd Xj and 231J w/ shifter from a 4x4 XJ everything else should be there as far as the wiring harness i would think...if not grab that .....i would say at the cost of my pnp prices here where i live: $200 for the front axle $40 for the front drive shaft $200 for the tcase (i think) and the misc. wiring probably around $500-600 i would think... __________________ 91 toyota pickup--a work in progress XJ, tons, 40's, EOR cage, locked, doubled...GONE

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Timmay Liquid Iron Ind. Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 52894 Location: West Berlin, NJ Posts: 2,926	You'll need a new tranny, or at least the tailhousing and tailshaft from a 4wd tranny. The new tranny is definatly the better and less painful option IMO. __________________ Tim Diekmann Liquid Iron Industries, LLC tim@liquidironindustries.com http://www.liquidironindustries.com/ (856)-336-2639 https://www.facebook.com/liquidironindustries Molten Motorsports #4343 "Fred"

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pipehitter155 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Member # 73680 Location: by da beach boiieeeeee....va beach, va Posts: 2,028	i stand corrected.... __________________ 91 toyota pickup--a work in progress XJ, tons, 40's, EOR cage, locked, doubled...GONE

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MAJORNUGGETS Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 90878 Posts: 2	Can you give me an idea of how much it cost you? and how long it took?

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heepr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26806 Location: atlanta Posts: 771	I did it about 5 years ago and it ended up costing over $1300 all said and done. Included tranny, tcase, driveshafts, both axles to match ratios, shifters and linkage, etc. Now I'd say that it's a good idea only if you're upgrading axles/tranny/tcase anyways when buying a cheaper 2wd version of the same vehicle for less money..

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