np231 front flanged yoke???? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

xjtony · 05-25-2007, 06:15 PM

Does anyone know of somebody who makes a 231 t-case front yoke that is flanged in stead of a u joint style yoke???????? im tryin to come up with a front driveshaft/parts here...

Caper · 05-25-2007, 06:56 PM

the WJ's have that crappy double cv driveshaft setup, the yokes can have a small lip machined off and there is meat to drill a bolt pattern, like a Toyota yoke.

TJP · 05-25-2007, 07:04 PM

Check out Dakota/Durangos/Rams w/231's if I remember correctly they all have them.

Georgia Mike · 05-25-2007, 07:09 PM

IIRC, I used an '87 or '88 NP 231 u-joint yoke to replace the flanged output on an old NP 207 I had (it had the crappy constant velocity front driveshaft) in an '85 XJ. It bolted right up. Maybe you could find one in a junkyard, and snag it to give that a shot.

rkjplt1 · 05-25-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TJP

Check out Dakota/Durangos/Rams w/231's if I remember correctly they all have them.

Yep, the pickups have them for sure. I'm looking at one right now.

Family TJ · 05-28-2007, 04:30 AM

I think I have the opposite problem but basically. I have a 242 flange and need a 231. Here's a pic of mine, the top is 231 and bottom 242. In front of the 242 is my AA SYE that I need to bolt to. Can you switch out the flanges of a 231 and 242?

Mh4Runner · 05-28-2007, 04:54 AM

For a 231 series case, use a 94 and newer Ram 231D front output yoke. If you have a 242 series case, use a 241D (89 n newer) or 241C flat flanged yoke short style (94 and down).

Famlit TJ, it looks like you are trying to bolt a hack-and-tap SYE compatible CV to your new SYE. Measure the distances between bolts and I will see if I have a 32 spline yoke that will fit that.

Family TJ · 05-28-2007, 05:06 AM

I have 2 front DS that mate to the SYE. That bottom shaft is a Tom woods and had the 242 flange. I was going to take a flange from a front 231 DS and try to switch out the 242 flange. It looks like it will work but I won't know until I get it apart. I just want to be sure I have everything I need before I do the SYE and new rear springs.

Family TJ · 05-28-2007, 04:51 PM

The flanges on the 242 and 231 are interchangable. I switched mine around today. I am good to go now.

xjtony · 05-28-2007, 11:20 PM

so anyone got a spare flanged yoke that will fit a 231 front???? 26 spline isnt it, a dana 44 yoke will work to correct?

xjtony · 05-30-2007, 12:00 AM

alright so the deal i got goin is that i cant keep a front driveshaft in my hunk of crap cuz the angle is so high that i have to grind too much off the yoke on the t case end that i end up busting one of the ears off the front t case yoke. so now im looking at those off set u joints from tom woods. i wonder if one of those at my t case end would actually help me out some??

OlyWaXJ · 05-30-2007, 05:13 AM

You could do something like this.Thats my rear DS it's a D50 TTB axle joint stuffed in 2x.25" tube and a plate welded on the end.Think they get 40*+ in angle.

OlyWa

xjtony · 05-30-2007, 04:01 PM

Yeah that would be great accept i dont have any dana 50 ttb axles layin around nor do any of my friends... i saw a guy on here that did that with some broken 60 axles, but i havent found anyone with any broken ones i could get yet... and that all comes about if i can find a dodge 231d front flange

OlyWaXJ · 05-30-2007, 08:10 PM

Yeah not my idea...but a good one.Seems to work fine.Cant find D50 axles,are you serious? The things litter the wrecking yards.

As far as a flange goes sounds like some dodges,grands and cherokee's with 242's.

OlyWa

xjtony · 05-30-2007, 08:46 PM

Yea, well i meant i checked my ready supply of crap around me and my buddies houses. We have a stockpile of ford 10.25/10.50 rear ends, and Dana 44 fronts. I did locate a 50 TTB but it only had one axle left in it and it was broken at the ears.... but im goin to a few junkyards friday so i'll see. anybody got any axles broken or layin around???

barillms · 12-16-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xjtony

alright so the deal i got goin is that i cant keep a front driveshaft in my hunk of crap cuz the angle is so high that i have to grind too much off the yoke on the t case end that i end up busting one of the ears off the front t case yoke. so now im looking at those off set u joints from tom woods. i wonder if one of those at my t case end would actually help me out some??

Do you have a crossmember drop? TC lowering kit or whatever?
Please keep in mind, when you drop the transfer case... You HELP the rear driveshaft angle by lowering the rear output... BUT you HURT the front driveshaft angle because you're tipping the front yoke up.

If you have the TC lowered, ditch it. This will help your front driveshaft angle issue.

You probably have too much lift as well. Trim your coils to lower your rig down an inch or two, this will make things MUCH better.

Jeep450r · 12-17-2012, 12:37 AM

^ interesting post from a 2k6'er. I'd think you would have figured out how to read post dates by now

05-25-2007, 06:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
xjtony Rock God Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50866 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 1,796	np231 front flanged yoke???? Does anyone know of somebody who makes a 231 t-case front yoke that is flanged in stead of a u joint style yoke???????? im tryin to come up with a front driveshaft/parts here... __________________ I currently have no rig.

05-25-2007, 06:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Caper Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89483 Location: Dartmouth, NS, Canada Posts: 224	the WJ's have that crappy double cv driveshaft setup, the yokes can have a small lip machined off and there is meat to drill a bolt pattern, like a Toyota yoke. __________________ 'lil mill/old Southbend/homemade bender/BullTear CNC plasma table w PM45

05-25-2007, 07:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
TJP Crazy Diamond Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7595 Location: Alternate Universe Posts: 1,145	Check out Dakota/Durangos/Rams w/231's if I remember correctly they all have them. __________________ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” -Albert Einstein

05-28-2007, 04:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mh4Runner Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46175 Location: Darien Center, NY Posts: 3,125	For a 231 series case, use a 94 and newer Ram 231D front output yoke. If you have a 242 series case, use a 241D (89 n newer) or 241C flat flanged yoke short style (94 and down). Famlit TJ, it looks like you are trying to bolt a hack-and-tap SYE compatible CV to your new SYE. Measure the distances between bolts and I will see if I have a 32 spline yoke that will fit that. __________________ USED and NEW 4x4 PARTS - (716) 984-8715 8-5pm EST Specializing in Axles and Transfercases

05-28-2007, 11:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
xjtony Rock God Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50866 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 1,796	so anyone got a spare flanged yoke that will fit a 231 front???? 26 spline isnt it, a dana 44 yoke will work to correct? __________________ I currently have no rig.

05-25-2007, 07:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Georgia Mike Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 22824 Location: Flowery Branch, GA Posts: 699	IIRC, I used an '87 or '88 NP 231 u-joint yoke to replace the flanged output on an old NP 207 I had (it had the crappy constant velocity front driveshaft) in an '85 XJ. It bolted right up. Maybe you could find one in a junkyard, and snag it to give that a shot.

05-28-2007, 04:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Family TJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63174 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 145	I think I have the opposite problem but basically. I have a 242 flange and need a 231. Here's a pic of mine, the top is 231 and bottom 242. In front of the 242 is my AA SYE that I need to bolt to. Can you switch out the flanges of a 231 and 242?

05-28-2007, 05:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Family TJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63174 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 145	I have 2 front DS that mate to the SYE. That bottom shaft is a Tom woods and had the 242 flange. I was going to take a flange from a front 231 DS and try to switch out the 242 flange. It looks like it will work but I won't know until I get it apart. I just want to be sure I have everything I need before I do the SYE and new rear springs.

05-28-2007, 04:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Family TJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63174 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 145	The flanges on the 242 and 231 are interchangable. I switched mine around today. I am good to go now.

05-30-2007, 12:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
xjtony Rock God Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50866 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 1,796	alright so the deal i got goin is that i cant keep a front driveshaft in my hunk of crap cuz the angle is so high that i have to grind too much off the yoke on the t case end that i end up busting one of the ears off the front t case yoke. so now im looking at those off set u joints from tom woods. i wonder if one of those at my t case end would actually help me out some?? __________________ I currently have no rig.

05-30-2007, 05:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
OlyWaXJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22393 Location: OlyWa Posts: 281	You could do something like this.Thats my rear DS it's a D50 TTB axle joint stuffed in 2x.25" tube and a plate welded on the end.Think they get 40*+ in angle. OlyWa

05-30-2007, 04:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
xjtony Rock God Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50866 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 1,796	Yeah that would be great accept i dont have any dana 50 ttb axles layin around nor do any of my friends... i saw a guy on here that did that with some broken 60 axles, but i havent found anyone with any broken ones i could get yet... and that all comes about if i can find a dodge 231d front flange __________________ I currently have no rig.

05-30-2007, 08:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
OlyWaXJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22393 Location: OlyWa Posts: 281	Yeah not my idea...but a good one.Seems to work fine.Cant find D50 axles,are you serious? The things litter the wrecking yards. As far as a flange goes sounds like some dodges,grands and cherokee's with 242's. OlyWa

05-30-2007, 08:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
xjtony Rock God Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50866 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 1,796	Yea, well i meant i checked my ready supply of crap around me and my buddies houses. We have a stockpile of ford 10.25/10.50 rear ends, and Dana 44 fronts. I did locate a 50 TTB but it only had one axle left in it and it was broken at the ears.... but im goin to a few junkyards friday so i'll see. anybody got any axles broken or layin around??? __________________ I currently have no rig.

12-17-2012, 12:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jeep450r Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 184396 Posts: 148	^ interesting post from a 2k6'er. I'd think you would have figured out how to read post dates by now

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