CAD Drawings of XJ - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

MADHORSE · 07-11-2007, 07:56 AM

Hello All,

I'm searching for CAD drawings of an XJ as I am designing an exo-cage with inner-cage for it. Does anyone have or know where I can find these files?

I have access to Solid Works, Unigraphics NX-4, Solid Edge, and Auto Desk, so I could probably import most file formats into one of the programs.

Thanks!

Brian

Diluted · 07-11-2007, 08:04 AM

Why dont you spec it out for yourself, and draw it up in autocad?

hman333 · 07-11-2007, 08:30 AM

http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/XJ-DIMS.DWG

MADHORSE · 07-11-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diluted

Why dont you spec it out for yourself, and draw it up in autocad?

I suppose it is similar to that of computer programming. Why write a program that already exsists if you can find it already done. If you ever need a model of something I have already laid out, let me know.

MADHORSE · 07-11-2007, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hman333

http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/XJ-DIMS.DWG

Sweeeeet!!!! I will import the 2d side profile into Unigraphics, extrude it. Then import the rear profile, cut extrude it and do some detail work.

Thank you!

I would still be interested in a 3d model if someone already has one done.

Thanks again.

canadian_driver · 07-11-2007, 10:50 AM

got one for a zj aswell by chance?

hman333 · 07-11-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadian_driver

got one for a zj aswell by chance?

i got one autoCAD drawing but its not to scale and i dont know how accurate it is

hman333 · 07-11-2007, 12:18 PM

ok i scaled it up, but like i said i dont know if its accurate, but its something.

http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/zj-dims.dwg

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-11-2007, 12:47 PM

The only things I got accurate enough measurements off of were the tires. 31.25x11R16. Bolt pattern appears to be 5 on 4.5" Is it lifted? The undercarriage doesn't seem accurate.

i'd say the thing looks real close, but definetly not perfect. How'd you draw this? I'm assuming that you didn't measure every little thing.

hman333 · 07-11-2007, 01:00 PM

I didnt draw it, i just have collected these drawings over time

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-11-2007, 01:30 PM

This is pretty cool to mess around with, here is 7.5" of lift with stock wheelbase (assuming axle location was correct) 39.5" tires 17" rims, 8 on 170mm bolt pattern, 4" hubs. I'm going to stretch the wheelbase and add in my air shocks to show approximate mounting location as well as virtually "flex" the axle to show the approximate amount of fender trimming to be done.

Cyrus · 07-11-2007, 02:50 PM

A couple of my buddies are DCX engineers, I have been on them for years about this, and no true cad modeling exists for the XJ, not from Chrysler, not even the reduex for 97 was a complete CAD drawing, 95% of it was drawn by hand in 94-95 for the 97 remodel. But if any one happens to find or has a real close 3d model of the chassis I would be very interestd in a copy.

canadian_driver · 07-11-2007, 03:09 PM

thanks for your drawing, its better than nothing forsure, looks cool

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-11-2007, 03:31 PM

Playing with the front 16" 2.5" Fox Air Shock mounting locations. Wheelbase is stretched 2" forward in the front, and 1" back in the rear. 7.5" lift over stock. Ride height is Air Shocks at 4". Shocks angled in 5 degrees ar ride height. Front differential is a D60 (yes that gear pattern is accurate, however the housing is most definetly not) 45" C to C 67" WMS. Wheels and tires shown are 39.5"x13.5"R17, 17x9 5" backspacing wheels. Flex pic shown has compressed shock running at 1.5" extension, with the droop side at full 16" extension. I'm not sure I'm liking how far in these will have to be mounted in order to keep the tire from rubbing on them, but I can play with the mounting angle and location more for sure to hopefully eliminate that.

I kept the stocker on 31"x11"R16" for some kind of scale.

Diluted · 07-11-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADHORSE

I suppose it is similar to that of computer programming. Why write a program that already exsists if you can find it already done. If you ever need a model of something I have already laid out, let me know.

Yeah I got ya, but I thought you wanted serious drawings, like engineer sheets or something. A buddy and I had to spec and measure everything out for a full front clip, but I dont have those, he does and we kind of had a falling out

Diluted · 07-11-2007, 03:37 PM

Plus I would trust my own measurements..

KiGrind · 07-11-2007, 04:57 PM

Looks like someoen needs to build a good one.

MADHORSE · 07-12-2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiGrind

Looks like someoen needs to build a good one.

I would really like to, but time is limited these days.

I found a link to a mock-up approximate 3d model in Solid Works. Its needs alot of detail work done; however, taking a few measurments from the XJ and applying them to the model should clean it right up. Thats the awesome thing about a 3d model.

Username: anon
Password: anon

The folder to download is called Complete.zip

ftp://phatserver.net/web/

Here are a couple JPEG's of the some work I did to the model last night.
Here is also a pic of my Jeep.

mynameisaric · 07-12-2007, 07:34 AM

You have too much time on your hand. now put some tread lugs on the tires and copyrotate them around the tire diameter and union it into one solid tire

and get rid of that weiner axle up front.

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-12-2007, 07:54 AM

More specifically I'd rather see a 3d model of the undercarriage for link and crossmember designs, rather then a 3d body model for Exo/bumper/fender design. Although both would be the best.

I don't have access to solidworks yet but that would be awesome.

Diluted · 07-12-2007, 09:08 AM

not that I condone it, but try azureus and torrentbox.com -- just to "try the program out"

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-12-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diluted

not that I condone it, but try azureus and torrentbox.com -- just to "try the program out"

I have searched many a time for a torrent and have come up with nil. If you can find me a torrent of Solidworks and a working password I'd happily "test it out"

canadian_driver · 07-16-2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hman333

ok i scaled it up, but like i said i dont know if its accurate, but its something.

http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/zj-dims.dwg

that is a wj, anything else?

also for torrents try www.torrentspy.com

Weasel · 07-16-2007, 04:58 PM

36" Tire on 15" Rim

Johnny Joint: Not sure if it's dim. correct. The inner races are as that all I had to draw from but I don't have the ball dim. or the washers, ect.

HardcorewannabeXJ · 07-20-2007, 09:12 PM

Well I finally got solidworks and am in the process of learning how to use it. I managed to take some rough measurements from my D60 and drew it out on the CAD. If this cherokee is in any kind of scale, that axle's gonna look sick! Here are some pics.

07-11-2007, 07:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
MADHORSE Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 95346 Location: OHIO Posts: 6	CAD Drawings of XJ Hello All, I'm searching for CAD drawings of an XJ as I am designing an exo-cage with inner-cage for it. Does anyone have or know where I can find these files? I have access to Solid Works, Unigraphics NX-4, Solid Edge, and Auto Desk, so I could probably import most file formats into one of the programs. Thanks! Brian

07-11-2007, 08:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
hman333 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29316 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 58	http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/XJ-DIMS.DWG __________________ 92 XJ w/ Front Hidden 3 link, Dana 60/14 bolt, 39.5 Iroks www.clemsonoffroad.org

07-11-2007, 12:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
hman333 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29316 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 58	ok i scaled it up, but like i said i dont know if its accurate, but its something. http://people.clemson.edu/~hworthi/xj/zj-dims.dwg __________________ 92 XJ w/ Front Hidden 3 link, Dana 60/14 bolt, 39.5 Iroks www.clemsonoffroad.org

07-11-2007, 12:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
HardcorewannabeXJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 84593 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,004	The only things I got accurate enough measurements off of were the tires. 31.25x11R16. Bolt pattern appears to be 5 on 4.5" Is it lifted? The undercarriage doesn't seem accurate. i'd say the thing looks real close, but definetly not perfect. How'd you draw this? I'm assuming that you didn't measure every little thing. Last edited by HardcorewannabeXJ; 07-11-2007 at 12:49 PM.

07-11-2007, 01:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
hman333 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29316 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 58	I didnt draw it, i just have collected these drawings over time __________________ 92 XJ w/ Front Hidden 3 link, Dana 60/14 bolt, 39.5 Iroks www.clemsonoffroad.org

07-11-2007, 08:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Diluted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 86077 Location: Conway, SC Posts: 162	Why dont you spec it out for yourself, and draw it up in autocad?

07-11-2007, 10:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
canadian_driver Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81624 Posts: 97	got one for a zj aswell by chance?

07-11-2007, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
HardcorewannabeXJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 84593 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,004	This is pretty cool to mess around with, here is 7.5" of lift with stock wheelbase (assuming axle location was correct) 39.5" tires 17" rims, 8 on 170mm bolt pattern, 4" hubs. I'm going to stretch the wheelbase and add in my air shocks to show approximate mounting location as well as virtually "flex" the axle to show the approximate amount of fender trimming to be done. Last edited by HardcorewannabeXJ; 07-11-2007 at 01:32 PM.

07-11-2007, 02:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cyrus Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48037 Location: Zeeland Michigan Posts: 91	A couple of my buddies are DCX engineers, I have been on them for years about this, and no true cad modeling exists for the XJ, not from Chrysler, not even the reduex for 97 was a complete CAD drawing, 95% of it was drawn by hand in 94-95 for the 97 remodel. But if any one happens to find or has a real close 3d model of the chassis I would be very interestd in a copy. __________________ i drive junk.

07-11-2007, 03:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
canadian_driver Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81624 Posts: 97	thanks for your drawing, its better than nothing forsure, looks cool

07-11-2007, 03:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
HardcorewannabeXJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 84593 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,004	Playing with the front 16" 2.5" Fox Air Shock mounting locations. Wheelbase is stretched 2" forward in the front, and 1" back in the rear. 7.5" lift over stock. Ride height is Air Shocks at 4". Shocks angled in 5 degrees ar ride height. Front differential is a D60 (yes that gear pattern is accurate, however the housing is most definetly not) 45" C to C 67" WMS. Wheels and tires shown are 39.5"x13.5"R17, 17x9 5" backspacing wheels. Flex pic shown has compressed shock running at 1.5" extension, with the droop side at full 16" extension. I'm not sure I'm liking how far in these will have to be mounted in order to keep the tire from rubbing on them, but I can play with the mounting angle and location more for sure to hopefully eliminate that. I kept the stocker on 31"x11"R16" for some kind of scale.

07-11-2007, 03:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
Diluted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 86077 Location: Conway, SC Posts: 162	Plus I would trust my own measurements..

07-11-2007, 04:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
KiGrind Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66647 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,333	Looks like someoen needs to build a good one. __________________ 79 CJ-7 95 ZJ

07-12-2007, 07:34 AM	#19 (permalink)
mynameisaric Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81233 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 67	You have too much time on your hand. now put some tread lugs on the tires and copyrotate them around the tire diameter and union it into one solid tire and get rid of that weiner axle up front. Last edited by mynameisaric; 07-12-2007 at 07:35 AM.

07-12-2007, 07:54 AM	#20 (permalink)
HardcorewannabeXJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 84593 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,004	More specifically I'd rather see a 3d model of the undercarriage for link and crossmember designs, rather then a 3d body model for Exo/bumper/fender design. Although both would be the best. I don't have access to solidworks yet but that would be awesome.

07-12-2007, 09:08 AM	#21 (permalink)
Diluted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 86077 Location: Conway, SC Posts: 162	not that I condone it, but try azureus and torrentbox.com -- just to "try the program out"

07-16-2007, 04:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
Weasel Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5639 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 5,947	36" Tire on 15" Rim Johnny Joint: Not sure if it's dim. correct. The inner races are as that all I had to draw from but I don't have the ball dim. or the washers, ect.

07-20-2007, 09:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
HardcorewannabeXJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 84593 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,004	Well I finally got solidworks and am in the process of learning how to use it. I managed to take some rough measurements from my D60 and drew it out on the CAD. If this cherokee is in any kind of scale, that axle's gonna look sick! Here are some pics.

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