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Yota Tony · 02-26-2008, 12:56 PM

I'm hoping to add Clayton Long Arms to the ZJ later this year. Now my one concern it the ZJ's paper thin unibody frame.
Clayton's kit comes with sub frame connectors that follow the contours of the frame and connect the front and rear mounts together. The mounts slide up over the frame so sleeving the frame would seem out of the question.
I'm guessing I could sleeve the frame between the Clayton's mounts but I'm unsure.

My question is should I bother sleeving the frame (if so, how bout some ideas)? Or just put the Clayton's kit on as is?

When I spoke with Clayton's yesterday the guy there didn't see a reason to sleeve the frame.

whwheeler21 · 02-26-2008, 01:12 PM

I have been running the clayton long arms welded straight to the unibody on my comanche and have beat them up pretty good with no cracks or rips in the unibody. But, obviously sleeving that part or the entire rails would be better/stronger if you want to put the time in.

WheelNC94GC · 02-26-2008, 01:12 PM

I don't know why you would need to sleeve under the sleeve that clayton provides (for the mount). Seems like tons of people put the kit on as it comes and wheel the shit out of it. Claytons kit is pretty beefy in itself I think and as long as you weld it on right I think you'll be good. Zj's suck

^^x2 on sleeving the rest of the "frame" ^^

Grand_ZJ · 02-26-2008, 01:40 PM

How about, put claytons on,brackets and stiffeners, then just weld some plate on each side of the unibody between the brackets and weld them to the stiffeners, would be pretty cheap and that will end up the same .

Yota Tony · 02-26-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grand_ZJ

How about, put claytons on,brackets and stiffeners, then just weld some plate on each side of the unibody between the brackets and weld them to the stiffeners, would be pretty cheap and that will end up the same .

That's sort of what I was thinking Maxx.

Norcaljr · 02-26-2008, 08:46 PM

I have been running his kit on my ZJ for 7 years with no problems w/ the unibody.

02-26-2008, 12:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Yota Tony Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39045 Location: The Rock Posts: 1,092	Claytons Long Arms And The Shitty Unibody I'm hoping to add Clayton Long Arms to the ZJ later this year. Now my one concern it the ZJ's paper thin unibody frame. Clayton's kit comes with sub frame connectors that follow the contours of the frame and connect the front and rear mounts together. The mounts slide up over the frame so sleeving the frame would seem out of the question. I'm guessing I could sleeve the frame between the Clayton's mounts but I'm unsure. My question is should I bother sleeving the frame (if so, how bout some ideas)? Or just put the Clayton's kit on as is? When I spoke with Clayton's yesterday the guy there didn't see a reason to sleeve the frame. __________________ Anthony

02-26-2008, 01:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
whwheeler21 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 91841 Location: San Luis Obispo Posts: 113	I have been running the clayton long arms welded straight to the unibody on my comanche and have beat them up pretty good with no cracks or rips in the unibody. But, obviously sleeving that part or the entire rails would be better/stronger if you want to put the time in. __________________ '89 MJ, Locked, D60, Caged, Bobbed, Dual Cases. (DEAD) '93 YJ, 44/60, Aussie/Detroit, SOA. Last edited by whwheeler21; 02-26-2008 at 01:13 PM.

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WheelNC94GC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102221 Location: Sylva, NC Posts: 83	I don't know why you would need to sleeve under the sleeve that clayton provides (for the mount). Seems like tons of people put the kit on as it comes and wheel the shit out of it. Claytons kit is pretty beefy in itself I think and as long as you weld it on right I think you'll be good. Zj's suck ^^x2 on sleeving the rest of the "frame" ^^ __________________ X-Chassis #39 in progress Last edited by WheelNC94GC; 02-26-2008 at 01:13 PM.

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02-26-2008, 01:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Grand_ZJ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99134 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 1,249	How about, put claytons on,brackets and stiffeners, then just weld some plate on each side of the unibody between the brackets and weld them to the stiffeners, would be pretty cheap and that will end up the same .

02-26-2008, 08:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Norcaljr Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10319 Location: Castro Valley CA Posts: 373	I have been running his kit on my ZJ for 7 years with no problems w/ the unibody.