any way to fit 35" on a XJ with no lift? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

GRMhick · 09-04-2002, 10:36 AM

Well, i found an Xj, and am going to go look at it. only thing is that it is stock, and i will be broke after buying it. BUt i do have some 35" mt/r's on 15x8's on my dodge that i can use when i wheel it. This is a 4 door cherokee. Now is it possiable to cut the hell out of it and make it fit without doing anything else, or will i need to move the rear axle back so it doesent hit the door. Will it work?

thanks
Garrett

JohnBuuu · 09-04-2002, 10:42 AM

highly doubtful.
even with a shitload of trimmiing, youll need at least 4-5in to make it happen. you wont need to move the rear axle back until you get to 37-38s though.
~John

big4294x4 · 09-04-2002, 10:42 AM

No

big4294x4 · 09-04-2002, 10:46 AM

Possibly in the front if you add huge bumpstops and cut the shit out of the fenders and add rims w/ like 3" of backspacing. But in the rear. You could cut out the entire fender well and cut the body, but since this is a unibody rig, you will be compromising strength by cutting to far as the body seem opens up if you cut more than like an inch in a half. If you have the skills to weld in an entire new fenderwell and close up the seem in the body, then sure.

Dan-H · 09-04-2002, 11:36 AM

Check the tech section at www.SawzallAndCaseOfBeer.com

ashmanjeepXJ · 09-04-2002, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hick
i do have some 35" mt/r's on 15x8's on my dodge that i can use when i wheel it.
thanks
Garrett

your 96 dodge should be a 5-5.5 bolt pattern?
Cherokee is 5-4.5 rims wont fit!!

Id do 4in of Bs or less for the 35s to preven rubbing on lower control arm.

you will need to cut and reweld the body as described above. I drove my friends xj around the block, no lift no trimming with 32s, add bumpstops, trim or remove all possable metal, and take pics to show us. it would be sweet!!!!!!

with 35s youll also need to regear the 3.55 gears youll probibly have will suck, so with those gears, the 35s might be a performance down-grade but I say do it....

Kilby · 09-04-2002, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Dan-H
Check the tech section at www.SawzallAndCaseOfBeer.com

DOOD!
That would be one SWEET site!!!

Somebody should do it.

JayH · 09-04-2002, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kilby

DOOD!
That would be one SWEET site!!!

Somebody should do it.

SECONDED!

Jason R · 09-04-2002, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ

your 96 dodge should be a 5-5.5 bolt pattern?
Cherokee is 5-4.5 rims wont fit!!

Id do 4in of Bs or less for the 35s to preven rubbing on lower control arm.

you will need to cut and reweld the body as described above. I drove my friends xj around the block, no lift no trimming with 32s, add bumpstops, trim or remove all possable metal, and take pics to show us. it would be sweet!!!!!!

with 35s youll also need to regear the 3.55 gears youll probibly have will suck, so with those gears, the 35s might be a performance down-grade but I say do it....

B.A.R.K · 09-04-2002, 03:22 PM

anything is possible, i dont think it would be easy to relocate any necessitys on the front inner fender(if you trim that far up) you would be cutting mucho mucho metal away and ruining it's integrity, if you trim to fit 35's in the rear i am pretty sure that your tires will be in the cab with you , but hey if it is just a trail rig.....chop the whole thing to pieces

manhattanjeep · 09-04-2002, 06:26 PM

If you have access to a welder and some metal, then I would fab up some of your own ACOS. A buddy is doing this for a cherokee right now. It is still in the works, but I will let you know how it turns out. Trim a whole lotta metal from the fenders, and reweld the pinch seams and molded supports. Wheel it! You will still sit fairly low at the rockers, but on XJ's things are tucked away fairly well. Let us know how things turn out.

SMART ASS · 09-04-2002, 06:46 PM

teke the xj unibody and plant it awn the dodge chaseee

Weasel · 09-04-2002, 08:00 PM

edited: looks like you got it figured out.

borton · 09-04-2002, 08:26 PM

sure its possible, I just cut a stock xj to fit 33 ssr's on 10" wheels, at full stuff the front tires only hit the fire wall when turned, but nothing else, so add some bumps stops and the front may work. the rear on the other hand, you'll have to cut the wheel well completly out and build a bigger one, with the edge of the wheel well at the door, good luck.

GRMhick · 09-04-2002, 11:46 PM

Hmm, well, this cherokee has a factory d44. and the tires are off of my 77 dodge... and in the 70's dodges had 5 on 4.5, not the 96 with has 5 on 5.5.. both of those truck have 3.55 gears.. 77 with the 35", and the 96 with 33". SO i know what 3.55 gears and big tires fell like, but with an auto, it is OK (just never take it out of low range). I have also been lookin into just getting a teraflex 1.5" budget lift kit, and cutting like a mad man, and i can only admagine what the COG woudl be like.. i think it would kick major ass. And yes, the metal shop (south bay metal) is about 10 min from my house, and i have a nice welder (thought a little big at 315 amps

) that will weld up the metal if i am careful and quick. Hopefully i can go look at the cherokee in a couple of days to see how it looks to do... just weld up the rear and i woudl be set for almost any trial around... maybe rock sliders too...

Garrett

Taso Stambolis · 09-05-2002, 12:20 AM

I have a pic of a Grand Cherokee on 38s with it cut to hell with giant fender flares. Too bad I can't add an attachment to show everyone

GRMhick · 09-05-2002, 12:36 AM

Link to the ZJ on 38"

http://grm.alloffroad.com/zjw38s.jpg

borton · 09-05-2002, 07:23 AM

you will need a wheel well something like this, but taller, and bumpstops

Weasel · 09-05-2002, 07:33 AM

ahum. sorry for my outburst. Looking to be a cool project now.

boz88xj · 09-05-2002, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brent Orton
sure its possible, I just cut a stock xj to fit 33 ssr's on 10" wheels, at full stuff the front tires only hit the fire wall when turned, but nothing else, so add some bumps stops and the front may work. the rear on the other hand, you'll have to cut the wheel well completly out and build a bigger one, with the edge of the wheel well at the door, good luck.

Do you have any pictures of this cherokee?
I would love to see it. Damn thats a lot of cutting!

borton · 09-05-2002, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boz88xj

Do you have any pictures of this cherokee?
I would love to see it. Damn thats a lot of cutting!

here you go

B.A.R.K · 09-05-2002, 09:06 PM

how about some rear pics of the XJ on 33's

ashmanjeepXJ · 09-06-2002, 09:04 AM

I like the "Hero"

My "cherokee" fell off so I think the "F350 pioneer" will suit it well.

borton · 09-06-2002, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YJ_Swamper
how about some rear pics of the XJ on 33's

haven't gone there yet, no time and no sheet metal to put it back together.

ashmanjeepXJ · 09-06-2002, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brent Orton

haven't gone there yet, no time and no sheet metal to put it back together.

No time? Didnt you build you XMJ in like 8mo and all!!!!

It will be nice to see when you get the rear done.

09-04-2002, 10:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
GRMhick Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 87 Location: I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all Posts: 7,207	any way to fit 35" on a XJ with no lift? Well, i found an Xj, and am going to go look at it. only thing is that it is stock, and i will be broke after buying it. BUt i do have some 35" mt/r's on 15x8's on my dodge that i can use when i wheel it. This is a 4 door cherokee. Now is it possiable to cut the hell out of it and make it fit without doing anything else, or will i need to move the rear axle back so it doesent hit the door. Will it work? thanks Garrett

09-04-2002, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
JohnBuuu Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2282 Location: Davidsonville, Maryland Posts: 439	highly doubtful. even with a shitload of trimmiing, youll need at least 4-5in to make it happen. you wont need to move the rear axle back until you get to 37-38s though. ~John __________________ cars

09-04-2002, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
big4294x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6910 Location: Worcester MA or Chattanooga TN Posts: 386	No __________________ currently rigless and working on doctorate in Mechanical Engineering

09-04-2002, 10:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
big4294x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6910 Location: Worcester MA or Chattanooga TN Posts: 386	Possibly in the front if you add huge bumpstops and cut the shit out of the fenders and add rims w/ like 3" of backspacing. But in the rear. You could cut out the entire fender well and cut the body, but since this is a unibody rig, you will be compromising strength by cutting to far as the body seem opens up if you cut more than like an inch in a half. If you have the skills to weld in an entire new fenderwell and close up the seem in the body, then sure. __________________ currently rigless and working on doctorate in Mechanical Engineering

09-04-2002, 11:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dan-H Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 792 Location: El Dorado County CA Posts: 2,176	Check the tech section at www.SawzallAndCaseOfBeer.com __________________ 01 TJ

09-04-2002, 03:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
B.A.R.K Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8540 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 3,340	anything is possible, i dont think it would be easy to relocate any necessitys on the front inner fender(if you trim that far up) you would be cutting mucho mucho metal away and ruining it's integrity, if you trim to fit 35's in the rear i am pretty sure that your tires will be in the cab with you , but hey if it is just a trail rig.....chop the whole thing to pieces

09-04-2002, 06:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
manhattanjeep Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8883 Location: Kansas Posts: 35	If you have access to a welder and some metal, then I would fab up some of your own ACOS. A buddy is doing this for a cherokee right now. It is still in the works, but I will let you know how it turns out. Trim a whole lotta metal from the fenders, and reweld the pinch seams and molded supports. Wheel it! You will still sit fairly low at the rockers, but on XJ's things are tucked away fairly well. Let us know how things turn out.

09-04-2002, 06:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
SMART ASS Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2757 Location: EDH, CALI Posts: 2,476	teke the xj unibody and plant it awn the dodge chaseee __________________ ESREVER NI EVIRD

09-04-2002, 08:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Weasel Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5639 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 6,000	edited: looks like you got it figured out. __________________ Just Add Lightness I'd rather be simple-and-wrong than complicated-and-wrong. Last edited by Weasel; 09-05-2002 at 07:34 AM.

09-04-2002, 08:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
borton Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2125 Location: cold north Posts: 2,576	sure its possible, I just cut a stock xj to fit 33 ssr's on 10" wheels, at full stuff the front tires only hit the fire wall when turned, but nothing else, so add some bumps stops and the front may work. the rear on the other hand, you'll have to cut the wheel well completly out and build a bigger one, with the edge of the wheel well at the door, good luck.

09-04-2002, 11:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
GRMhick Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 87 Location: I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all Posts: 7,207	Hmm, well, this cherokee has a factory d44. and the tires are off of my 77 dodge... and in the 70's dodges had 5 on 4.5, not the 96 with has 5 on 5.5.. both of those truck have 3.55 gears.. 77 with the 35", and the 96 with 33". SO i know what 3.55 gears and big tires fell like, but with an auto, it is OK (just never take it out of low range). I have also been lookin into just getting a teraflex 1.5" budget lift kit, and cutting like a mad man, and i can only admagine what the COG woudl be like.. i think it would kick major ass. And yes, the metal shop (south bay metal) is about 10 min from my house, and i have a nice welder (thought a little big at 315 amps ) that will weld up the metal if i am careful and quick. Hopefully i can go look at the cherokee in a couple of days to see how it looks to do... just weld up the rear and i woudl be set for almost any trial around... maybe rock sliders too... Garrett

09-05-2002, 12:20 AM	#16 (permalink)
Taso Stambolis Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12878 Posts: 466	I have a pic of a Grand Cherokee on 38s with it cut to hell with giant fender flares. Too bad I can't add an attachment to show everyone

09-05-2002, 12:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
GRMhick Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 87 Location: I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all Posts: 7,207	Link to the ZJ on 38" http://grm.alloffroad.com/zjw38s.jpg

09-05-2002, 07:23 AM	#18 (permalink)
borton Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2125 Location: cold north Posts: 2,576	you will need a wheel well something like this, but taller, and bumpstops Attached Images

09-05-2002, 07:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
Weasel Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5639 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 6,000	ahum. sorry for my outburst. Looking to be a cool project now. __________________ Just Add Lightness I'd rather be simple-and-wrong than complicated-and-wrong.

09-05-2002, 09:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
B.A.R.K Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8540 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 3,340	how about some rear pics of the XJ on 33's

09-06-2002, 09:04 AM	#23 (permalink)
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