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MKBruin · 08-15-2001, 01:14 PM

hey all, MY clutch went out on my 1989 MJ with a 4.0 and the AX tranny (not the peugot). I need to have my truck by tomorrow, what needs to be done to drop the transmission/tc?

LOPPY · 08-15-2001, 01:44 PM

OK boys... we have a probelem here. His sig's longer than his post. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> newbie!

Welcome.

Remove rear driveshaft
Place jack or stand somewhere on drivetrain as far aft of the engine mounts as possible.
Remove bellypan
Remove tcase (optional if you feel like wrestling with weight or have help, go to next step)
Remove clutch linkage
Remove exhaust (if in the way)
Remove all bellhousing bolts
Remove tranny and bellhousing together

Piece of cake. Just start wrench'n. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

DUG · 08-15-2001, 01:50 PM

On the XJ/MJ it is actually quite a bit easier to pull the two as a unit. One guy can do it with a tranny jack, two strong guys with a floor jack if they have little to no fear. You can not tilt that prick down good enough to get to the top bolts on the t-case good. I puill them as one, it seems easier to me. Also, be care full tilting the motor, it will put the fan in the radiator and bust the shroud. Also, the top bellhousing bolt is often times a od size twelve point or a inverted torx, I forget which, I do however know that if you use one on the other it will lead to issues. I rep[laced mine and every one I have done wiht a normal bolt.

HTH

DUG · 08-15-2001, 01:52 PM

BTW....how did you get 7" from a SOA?

I did a SOA on my MJ aqnd it came out to be 5-5.5"

Did you make tall mounts or use a block?

Have you got a shcakle in it?

DUG

Monkeyboy · 08-15-2001, 02:02 PM

Don't forget about that stupid goofy reverse torx bolts they put on the two upper holes in the bellhousing <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Keith Strong · 08-15-2001, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rocktoad:
<STRONG>Don't forget about that stupid goofy reverse torx bolts they put on the two upper holes in the bellhousing <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I fawkin hate those bolts <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">

Follow Lop's list...extreme piece o cake.

And change you sig bradda...nobody here truely cares <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

MKBruin · 08-15-2001, 02:08 PM

yeah yeah yeah, I'm a newbie, so what? I jsut got sick and tired of the same old BS q's at JU and decided to learn from those who really know their shit...

I pulled 7 inches simply in the mounts I used, that and the springs on my mj are fairly new. When I go to a bronco 44 front I will need to buggy leaf and shackle the rear....I HATE blocks, too much wrap.

Thanks all for the quick responses....is there any easy way to get those bolts near the top?

DUG · 08-15-2001, 03:50 PM

I used a long extension and a universal joint to get them. I *think* they may be easy to get from the top through the engine compartment but I forget, it has been a long time since I did one on a stock trans.

I just used a stock XJ rear for my SOA, that is why you got more. I'm pretty happy with the short MJ, at 5" with the trimming I did I should fit a 35" plus easy.

MKBruin · 08-15-2001, 04:01 PM

hell, I had room for 36's if I want em,

unfortunately I know that the 35 rear and 30 front wouldn't last too long.....

<img src=http://www.autocolorado.com/Owners_Pictures/Select_a_Page_of_the_Gallery/Jeep_Gallery_Page_One/Picture_40/MVC-040S.JPG>

withamc · 08-15-2001, 04:13 PM

I pulled the t-case off my wife's Cherokee first 'cause I got nobody to help me (snif). The engine tilted far enough back for me to get to the top bolts on the t-case. Unfortunately, somebody had been there before me (top bolts on bellhousing) and I ended up hammering a smaller socket on and hooking up a 3 foot extension and u-joint with an impact wrench (LUVLY!)

MKBruin · 08-15-2001, 04:47 PM

Hey, all.......I can't get at those top two external torx bolts......what's the secret here?
should I jack the t-case down in order to fit in from underneath? will this stress anything terribly immportant (I know to watch the fan and radiator...)

I found teh right size socket but it is too big to fit in the space...

DUG · 08-15-2001, 04:56 PM

OH!, I almost forgot, the one under the hood is the splash sheild, it has to bolts that go into the bell housing from the front. The drivers one is less then fun to get to but not to bad.

I like the MJ! Mine is cut a bit more severe, it had some rust issues to work around. This is the final ride hieght with the motor inand my 31's on it:

Check out the rest of the pics @ Webshots

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DUG · 08-15-2001, 05:03 PM

SHIT! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

How do I resize that so it is not so freakin' huge?

crap.....I hate confusers <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

08-15-2001, 01:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
MKBruin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6407 Location: Indy Posts: 891	NEED HELP FAST!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! hey all, MY clutch went out on my 1989 MJ with a 4.0 and the AX tranny (not the peugot). I need to have my truck by tomorrow, what needs to be done to drop the transmission/tc? __________________ ______________________________ "Did you think this forum served a legitimate socially redeeming function other than mental masturbation?" posted by Bobzooki

08-15-2001, 01:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
LOPPY Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1108 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 4,201	OK boys... we have a probelem here. His sig's longer than his post. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> newbie! Welcome. Remove rear driveshaft Place jack or stand somewhere on drivetrain as far aft of the engine mounts as possible. Remove bellypan Remove tcase (optional if you feel like wrestling with weight or have help, go to next step) Remove clutch linkage Remove exhaust (if in the way) Remove all bellhousing bolts Remove tranny and bellhousing together Piece of cake. Just start wrench'n. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ Those who forge their swords into plows will plow for those who do not.

08-15-2001, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
DUG Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 858 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106	On the XJ/MJ it is actually quite a bit easier to pull the two as a unit. One guy can do it with a tranny jack, two strong guys with a floor jack if they have little to no fear. You can not tilt that prick down good enough to get to the top bolts on the t-case good. I puill them as one, it seems easier to me. Also, be care full tilting the motor, it will put the fan in the radiator and bust the shroud. Also, the top bellhousing bolt is often times a od size twelve point or a inverted torx, I forget which, I do however know that if you use one on the other it will lead to issues. I rep[laced mine and every one I have done wiht a normal bolt. HTH __________________ Be yourself, by yourself.

08-15-2001, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
DUG Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 858 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106	BTW....how did you get 7" from a SOA? I did a SOA on my MJ aqnd it came out to be 5-5.5" Did you make tall mounts or use a block? Have you got a shcakle in it? DUG __________________ Be yourself, by yourself.

08-15-2001, 02:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Monkeyboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1169 Location: Antioch, CA. Posts: 7,124	Don't forget about that stupid goofy reverse torx bolts they put on the two upper holes in the bellhousing <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ It was even more of a turn on when I found out she was doing me to buy baby formula

08-15-2001, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
MKBruin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6407 Location: Indy Posts: 891	yeah yeah yeah, I'm a newbie, so what? I jsut got sick and tired of the same old BS q's at JU and decided to learn from those who really know their shit... I pulled 7 inches simply in the mounts I used, that and the springs on my mj are fairly new. When I go to a bronco 44 front I will need to buggy leaf and shackle the rear....I HATE blocks, too much wrap. Thanks all for the quick responses....is there any easy way to get those bolts near the top? __________________ ______________________________ "Did you think this forum served a legitimate socially redeeming function other than mental masturbation?" posted by Bobzooki

08-15-2001, 03:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
DUG Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 858 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106	I used a long extension and a universal joint to get them. I think they may be easy to get from the top through the engine compartment but I forget, it has been a long time since I did one on a stock trans. I just used a stock XJ rear for my SOA, that is why you got more. I'm pretty happy with the short MJ, at 5" with the trimming I did I should fit a 35" plus easy. __________________ Be yourself, by yourself.

08-15-2001, 04:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
MKBruin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6407 Location: Indy Posts: 891	hell, I had room for 36's if I want em, unfortunately I know that the 35 rear and 30 front wouldn't last too long..... <img src=http://www.autocolorado.com/Owners_Pictures/Select_a_Page_of_the_Gallery/Jeep_Gallery_Page_One/Picture_40/MVC-040S.JPG> __________________ ______________________________ "Did you think this forum served a legitimate socially redeeming function other than mental masturbation?" posted by Bobzooki

08-15-2001, 04:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
withamc Rock God Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1757 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 1,144	I pulled the t-case off my wife's Cherokee first 'cause I got nobody to help me (snif). The engine tilted far enough back for me to get to the top bolts on the t-case. Unfortunately, somebody had been there before me (top bolts on bellhousing) and I ended up hammering a smaller socket on and hooking up a 3 foot extension and u-joint with an impact wrench (LUVLY!) __________________ Usually lost... Eat your spaghetti

08-15-2001, 04:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
MKBruin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6407 Location: Indy Posts: 891	Hey, all.......I can't get at those top two external torx bolts......what's the secret here? should I jack the t-case down in order to fit in from underneath? will this stress anything terribly immportant (I know to watch the fan and radiator...) I found teh right size socket but it is too big to fit in the space... __________________ ______________________________ "Did you think this forum served a legitimate socially redeeming function other than mental masturbation?" posted by Bobzooki

08-15-2001, 04:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
DUG Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 858 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106	OH!, I almost forgot, the one under the hood is the splash sheild, it has to bolts that go into the bell housing from the front. The drivers one is less then fun to get to but not to bad. I like the MJ! Mine is cut a bit more severe, it had some rust issues to work around. This is the final ride hieght with the motor inand my 31's on it: Check out the rest of the pics @ Webshots [ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: DUG ] [ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: DUG ] [ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: DUG ] __________________ Be yourself, by yourself.

08-15-2001, 05:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
DUG Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 858 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,106	SHIT! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> How do I resize that so it is not so freakin' huge? crap.....I hate confusers <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> __________________ Be yourself, by yourself.

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