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Old 05-26-2004, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is anyone here running this thing on a TJ? I know they made a short run to use as test mules, and I am just wondering if it works. It seems to me that it would help Jacking and Wheel hop (over short arms anyway)


BTW did a search and came up blank. Peace Murfman

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looks like way to much shiat hanging down to me. Get in any mud and that thing would be a huge shovel
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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looks like way to much shiat hanging down to me. Get in any mud and that thing would be a huge shovel

Or if you start to drag the underbody on some rocks, that thing is gonna just grab the rock and hold you there.
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From what I've seen so far, pretty much everything they manufacture is just gimmicky crap for problems that either don't exist, or are resolved much more simply.
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Old 05-26-2004, 07:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Is anyone here running this thing on a TJ? I know they made a short run to use as test mules, and I am just wondering if it works. It seems to me that it would help Jacking and Wheel hop (over short arms anyway)


BTW did a search and came up blank. Peace Murfman
So you want to add a 5th link to your TJ with no thought as to how its going to interact with the movement of your existing link suspension?

Want to get rid of the jacking? Get rid of the short arms.
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the idea is cool...but i'd never run it....
like was said...it would just grab too much sheeit...rocks, mud, ect
just my $.02
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Old 05-26-2004, 08:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No, the idea isn't even cool. Who teh fawk adds a "trac bar" to a link suspension?? I bet for the price of it, you could get long arms too...
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Old 05-26-2004, 08:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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So you want to add a 5th link to your TJ with no thought as to how its going to interact with the movement of your existing link suspension?

Want to get rid of the jacking? Get rid of the short arms.
When you add the stinger, you remove both upper arms, and relocate the lower arms ~2" up, so you can trim the mounts on the axle for more clearance. My main reason for asking is I was thinking about fabbing a link similar to this for my Jeep. More interested in the geometry of the setup than the execution. 1 upper arm seems like a different way to skin a cat, just wondering about how it works. Peace Murfman
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When you add the stinger, you remove both upper arms, and relocate the lower arms ~2" up, so you can trim the mounts on the axle for more clearance. My main reason for asking is I was thinking about fabbing a link similar to this for my Jeep. More interested in the geometry of the setup than the execution. 1 upper arm seems like a different way to skin a cat, just wondering about how it works. Peace Murfman

That thing replaces the uppers? Its held on by fawking muffler clamps and what appears to be a 3/16" axle bridge at best...

As per the handling, you should look up a few of the radius arm three link threads (which is what this suspension is by your description) and read up. If you mount the single upper to one side it will make for some weird jacking movement...
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When you add the stinger, you remove both upper arms, and relocate the lower arms ~2" up, so you can trim the mounts on the axle for more clearance.
What??? This stinger seems pretty useless to me. Why don't you do it right the first the time and build yourself long arms in a 4-link configuration.
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Old 05-27-2004, 07:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah it does not look that good to me, there are way better designs. The thing that would bug me the most is trying to do anything to that u joint.
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I run a Nth degree 1.25 tummy tucker on my TJ. It is a very well made product that added quite a bit of ground clearance and is very stout to boot. I have not seen one of the stingers in action but several other wheelers on other boards jumped in on the preproduction sale. I have seen no complaints about it on other boards besides this one....big surprise there.
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Old 05-28-2004, 05:54 AM   #15 (permalink)
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aren't those things made in the same factory as these?
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Old 05-28-2004, 06:14 AM   #16 (permalink)
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aren't those things made in the same factory as these?
Sure is, but the danforth anchor was in the early days, back when they were only Mth degree. Since the development has progressed and the name changed to Nth degree, things are much better.
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I have not seen one of the stingers in action but several other wheelers on other boards jumped in on the preproduction sale. I have seen no complaints about it on other boards besides this one....big surprise there.
That because speedbumps have a nice radius to them and products like the one above slide across them when you snag it at the mall of course you wouldnt get a realistic evaluation on other boards

last time i cheched JU and others were pimping all sorts of bling kick ass ramp RTI killer shit. Nth degree makes some worthless crap as far as i have seen
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Nth Degree stuff...

I happen to know the owner of nth Degree, Jim. He is a former DCX suspension engineer and is quite knowledgable. The slider completely protects the yoke/pinion assembly and, guess what? there is absolutely no loss of diff. to ground clearance-- nada, zilch, nothing. Very good product. I have personally seen it save morethan one rigs bacon by protecting these important components. To the naysayers, have u seen one in action or just hopping on the band wagon to diss another guy trying to make al iving?
Take a look at the set up-- it is vastly superior to the OEM stuff Jim designed-- those mods were supposed to be incorporated into one of his team projects (the TJ Rubicon) but the cheap fawkers @ DCX nixed that due to high costs-- and besides, no real jeep is taken in the dirt anyway, right? LMAO
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Old 06-01-2004, 10:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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So the person who designed and marketed this ramp queen revolver shackle competitor was a suspension engineer?


Guess we now know why he isnt anymore.
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That tailgate looks photochopped.
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That tailgate looks photochopped.
it's a TJ gate, or at least TJ hinges on a YJ... could still be a chop, but why?
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Whole line looks like a buncha bolt-on BS products for people TFS or TFL to make decent shit of their own. (Plus it's some o' the most bogus non-engineering ...IMHO... that I've seen anyone try to foist on the public in a while!)

.....'N' yep... that 'gate's been played with. ....Weird...
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