How much lift to fit : 38.5 to 39.5 on built fullwidth YJ - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Matt K · 01-25-2002, 07:05 AM

I have a '94yj, which will soon have full width d60 f&r from '79 f250HD.
I have already build some new fenders and cut quite a bit out of my tub. I also have
a 2" body lift as well to clear the NV4500 and Atlas.

So my question to all you guys running full width and 38.5 to 39.5 is, how much SOA lift will I
need to really clear those big meats.

Here are a couple of pics of her w/35's , total of 8" lift from (2" body,4"springs,2"shackle reversal,2"buggy leaf rear
and stock width axles)

LOPPY · 01-25-2002, 07:36 AM

I'm runn'n 4" springs SOA and there's tons of room and I have no body lift. Your setup right now SOA will be big and you'd have tons of room. If I had that body lift I'd go SOA on Rancho waggie springs. Talk about flex

Check out some pics of mine on this thread: (black yj) It's on 38.5's

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=26102

The Rockslut · 01-25-2002, 07:55 AM

I have a 2" BL, 2.5" waggy springs all the way aroung, lifted rear shackles, MORE shackle reversal with buggy leaf. I have tube front fenders and rear TJ flares. I clear 38.5 SX's all day long.

Matt K · 01-25-2002, 08:02 AM

Loppy, your thinking that with a 2" body lift and 1 1/2" to 2" SOA springs, I should have any problems cleaing 38.5 to 39.5" tires.

Jeeper · 01-25-2002, 10:15 AM

2.5" Alcans SOA on D44/60 65" width. 38.5x14.50SX's, no body lift, flat fendered front and hacked rear wells. No problem here.

Jeeper

LOPPY · 01-25-2002, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by Matt K
Loppy, your thinking that with a 2" body lift and 1 1/2" to 2" SOA springs, I should have any problems cleaing 38.5 to 39.5" tires.

Shit man, you'd sky over em. Specially if you're not afraid to loose a little tin (which is obvious

) Go for it.

I would go with 2.5" springs though. 1" would be push'n it.

Nice rig Jeeper. Looks very similar to mine, cept I gots da TBI.

Jeeper · 01-25-2002, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOPPY

Nice rig Jeeper. Looks very similar to mine, cept I gots da TBI.

Thanks, that 400 is on its way out this weekend...350 TPI going in!

Jeeper

Matt K · 01-25-2002, 11:41 AM

What 2 to 2.5" spring would you guys recommend for a good, super flex SOA setup? TIA

LOPPY · 01-25-2002, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeeper

Thanks, that 400 is on its way out this weekend...350 TPI going in!

Jeeper

SICK!!!!

LOPPY · 01-25-2002, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt K
What 2 to 2.5" spring would you guys recommend for a good, super flex SOA setup? TIA

There's a few good ones out there. I know of a few guys that are using the Rancho waggie springs. I forget the part number, something like 2012's???

They're 2.5 lifted, beefy packs and they flex like a mutha. The waggy springs are the same width (2.5") and have the same distance from frame eye to center pin as a YJ spring. The shackle end is about 3" longer from center pin to the eye bolt, so there's more spring to flex. You may have to push your axle back a bit and go shackle reverse in front if you have'nt already, but man to the seriously flex. IMHO the idea is to get as flat a spring as you can. Much better flex. My 4" springs suck. I hate em. So keep the body lift on and go for it.

This is what I'm gunna do. I was supposed to be doing it now, but another baby came along and daddy's got no cash.

Matt K · 01-25-2002, 12:47 PM

Do you guys know anybody who uses Avalanche's SOA spring packs. They are 6" longer than stock and are supposed to be very very flexy. Still 2.5" wide.

LOPPY · 01-25-2002, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt K
Do you guys know anybody who uses Avalanche's SOA spring packs. They are 6" longer than stock and are supposed to be very very flexy. Still 2.5" wide.

I've heard good things. The only problem is anything stamped with "Avalanche" is very pricey. OUCH! please pass the KY next time.

Matt K · 01-25-2002, 01:51 PM

Those RANCH waggy springs seem very interesting. Does anybody know which part # they are. I am going to try and look it up myself as well.

Does any body else have any idea?

JeeperJake · 01-25-2002, 02:34 PM

i thought those waggy springs were offset so you could extend the wheelbase. am i wrong?

- jake

Adam Ant · 01-25-2002, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt K
Those RANCH waggy springs seem very interesting. Does anybody know which part # they are. I am going to try and look it up myself as well.

Does any body else have any idea?

RS 44044

I run them All the way Around With No Body lift !Spring Over on REV Dana 60's

and fit 39.5 tsl's with Minor Triming

Adam,

TheLakeRat · 01-25-2002, 04:09 PM

I'm running 38.5 claws with a 3 " body, 2" skyjacker springs, SOA with a shackle reversal and it's perfect up fron't. LOTS of flex. The rear is 1/4 elipticle so that helps the flex some but I could get a 1200 easy even before the rear setup. I used to run 39.5 boggers and they rubbed just a little but not too bad. Of course thats with stock fenders too.

smitrock · 01-25-2002, 07:23 PM

i run 38.5 with regular yj springs soa
no other lift, if the axles are full width they will stick out past the fenders
yj spring packs 50 to 100 for a set of used ones

01-25-2002, 07:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Matt K Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8641 Location: Illinois Posts: 166	How much lift to fit : 38.5 to 39.5 on built fullwidth YJ I have a '94yj, which will soon have full width d60 f&r from '79 f250HD. I have already build some new fenders and cut quite a bit out of my tub. I also have a 2" body lift as well to clear the NV4500 and Atlas. So my question to all you guys running full width and 38.5 to 39.5 is, how much SOA lift will I need to really clear those big meats. Here are a couple of pics of her w/35's , total of 8" lift from (2" body,4"springs,2"shackle reversal,2"buggy leaf rear and stock width axles)

01-25-2002, 07:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
LOPPY Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1108 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 4,201	I'm runn'n 4" springs SOA and there's tons of room and I have no body lift. Your setup right now SOA will be big and you'd have tons of room. If I had that body lift I'd go SOA on Rancho waggie springs. Talk about flex Check out some pics of mine on this thread: (black yj) It's on 38.5's http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=26102 __________________ Those who forge their swords into plows will plow for those who do not. Last edited by LOPPY; 01-25-2002 at 07:38 AM.

01-25-2002, 07:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
The Rockslut Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5021 Location: Lincoln, CA Posts: 5,967	I have a 2" BL, 2.5" waggy springs all the way aroung, lifted rear shackles, MORE shackle reversal with buggy leaf. I have tube front fenders and rear TJ flares. I clear 38.5 SX's all day long. __________________ Don't be "THAT GUY" on the trail. www.voodoowax.com

01-25-2002, 04:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheLakeRat Team RedNeck Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3941 Location: San Angelo, Republic of Texas Posts: 890	I'm running 38.5 claws with a 3 " body, 2" skyjacker springs, SOA with a shackle reversal and it's perfect up fron't. LOTS of flex. The rear is 1/4 elipticle so that helps the flex some but I could get a 1200 easy even before the rear setup. I used to run 39.5 boggers and they rubbed just a little but not too bad. Of course thats with stock fenders too. __________________ Matt Hodges, Owner West Texas 4Wheel & Offroad 325-653-7001 1811 W. Beauregard Ave. San Angelo, TX. 76901 www.westtexasoffroad.com Redneck is not a style, fashion, or something that occurs due to location – It’s way of life. You can’t be one - either You Are or You Aren’t. I AM.~SilverZuk

01-25-2002, 07:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
smitrock Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 660 Location: Mountain Top Pa Posts: 499	i run 38.5 with regular yj springs soa no other lift, if the axles are full width they will stick out past the fenders yj spring packs 50 to 100 for a set of used ones __________________ 83cj7 amc 401 th 400 full hydro steering dana 60 arb 14 bolt detroit 44x18x16.5 swampers MEMBER East Coast Pebble Crawlers

01-25-2002, 08:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Matt K Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8641 Location: Illinois Posts: 166	Loppy, your thinking that with a 2" body lift and 1 1/2" to 2" SOA springs, I should have any problems cleaing 38.5 to 39.5" tires.

01-25-2002, 10:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jeeper Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 755 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 208	2.5" Alcans SOA on D44/60 65" width. 38.5x14.50SX's, no body lift, flat fendered front and hacked rear wells. No problem here. Jeeper

01-25-2002, 11:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Matt K Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8641 Location: Illinois Posts: 166	What 2 to 2.5" spring would you guys recommend for a good, super flex SOA setup? TIA

01-25-2002, 12:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Matt K Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8641 Location: Illinois Posts: 166	Do you guys know anybody who uses Avalanche's SOA spring packs. They are 6" longer than stock and are supposed to be very very flexy. Still 2.5" wide.

01-25-2002, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Matt K Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8641 Location: Illinois Posts: 166	Those RANCH waggy springs seem very interesting. Does anybody know which part # they are. I am going to try and look it up myself as well. Does any body else have any idea?

01-25-2002, 02:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
JeeperJake Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7871 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 316	i thought those waggy springs were offset so you could extend the wheelbase. am i wrong? - jake

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