what to check for on rolled yj - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 06:09 AM

I may be buying a Yj that has been tossed once, it rolled twice, and is completely stock. Besides the usual frame and body stuff, is there anything specific to look for that would be a sign not to buy, like things that usually crack or bend?

eventually it will be built, but still an on road vehicle as well.

CRAWLTHIS · 10-01-2004, 06:14 AM

What year is it? Stay away from the year that has the Peugot tranny and 207 case. This is how I got my jeep, rolled in the junkyard.

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 06:18 AM

it's a 90 6cyl, does that have the shitty tranny? (5spd)

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 06:19 AM

you should post a pic of yours for me, you sig looks like it would be huge.

CRAWLTHIS · 10-01-2004, 06:48 AM

I have a '90 also. It had the AX-15 tranny and 231. The only thing that I wish it had stock was fuel injection. That was the main reason for going to the 350, and the 465 was all about gearing. Anyways, I am at work and all my pictures are at home. I will try to see if I can find any on the internet.

CRAWLTHIS · 10-01-2004, 06:53 AM

If you go to midwestcrawler.com then pics, page two, album is called Jake. It is the blue YJ with the black hardtop. That was before I extended the wheelbase and the engine swap.

Trailer Rails · 10-01-2004, 07:23 AM

That is how I got my YJ. Some kid rolled it down an embankment and ripped the winsheild and rear shock mounts off. He thought it was totaled and was about 5 sec from calling the junk yard. I did not even know him but I just overheard the conversation between him and someone I worked with. I told the kid I'd take it. He drove it over to my house the next day on 3 flat tires. I have been wheeling it since then. I had an offer of $2500 for it a couple weks after I got it. The only major problem is the windsheild cowel is pushed forward about 1" so it does not fit a hard top and soft tops don't work real well either. I'd say check the windsheild cowel for alignment if you are going to want any type of top other than a bkini.

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 09:40 AM

yeah the top doesn't fit real good, so it may be just that,

I thought that it would be just the windshield frame bent back about an 1", will have to take a closer look.

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 09:42 AM

crawlthis, it looks like you have stock steering, if it is how much lift is okay with stock steering? I have no idea about jeeps. Also if i spring over the front would it need steering mods?

CRAWLTHIS · 10-01-2004, 12:59 PM

Well I have recently redone the steering to high-steer. In the picture I was running the tierod and draglink off of a '97 ZJ. If you just get rid of the front panhard bar and get a dropped pitman arm (stock ZJ pitman arm is what I used) you should be okay.

CRAWLTHIS · 10-01-2004, 01:02 PM

I have close to 7" of lift in those pictures and never had a problem with steering with the panhard bar removed. It is sping over with 1.5" rubicon SOA springs.

Keith Strong · 10-01-2004, 01:40 PM

Water in the cylinders

Wally85toy · 10-01-2004, 02:15 PM

yeah, it runs and drive great, it was a high speed roll, flipped twice and barely touched the ground, landed on it's wheels. It sort rotated on the front clip.

jeepnmatt · 10-01-2004, 02:31 PM

check the transfer-case for cracks or obvious fluid leaks. they seem to be the first to break.

the frame and body can be straightened fairly reasonably on a frame rack.

fix it good enough to wheel it...and don't worry about it!

MrWillys · 10-02-2004, 01:41 PM

I went over four times at least (Can't remember, head was beating against the cage). It starting tearing the spring shackles out of the frame. I'd look closely at these. Also, I now know why people bolt the cage to the frame. I bent one axle aswell. Look close at the suspension cuz it pounds as it comes around. Good luck
Oh yeah, couldn't you just buy a used frame cheaper than you could straighten that one if it's bent?

10-01-2004, 06:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	what to check for on rolled yj I may be buying a Yj that has been tossed once, it rolled twice, and is completely stock. Besides the usual frame and body stuff, is there anything specific to look for that would be a sign not to buy, like things that usually crack or bend? eventually it will be built, but still an on road vehicle as well. __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 06:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
CRAWLTHIS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33341 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 48	What year is it? Stay away from the year that has the Peugot tranny and 207 case. This is how I got my jeep, rolled in the junkyard. __________________ [B]"It's like a swore peeder, you can't beat it!"[/B] '90 YJ, TBI 350, SM-465, hi609, Ford 9" 5.13, and 36SX's

10-01-2004, 06:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	it's a 90 6cyl, does that have the shitty tranny? (5spd) __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 06:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	you should post a pic of yours for me, you sig looks like it would be huge. __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 06:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
CRAWLTHIS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33341 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 48	I have a '90 also. It had the AX-15 tranny and 231. The only thing that I wish it had stock was fuel injection. That was the main reason for going to the 350, and the 465 was all about gearing. Anyways, I am at work and all my pictures are at home. I will try to see if I can find any on the internet. __________________ [B]"It's like a swore peeder, you can't beat it!"[/B] '90 YJ, TBI 350, SM-465, hi609, Ford 9" 5.13, and 36SX's

10-01-2004, 06:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
CRAWLTHIS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33341 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 48	If you go to midwestcrawler.com then pics, page two, album is called Jake. It is the blue YJ with the black hardtop. That was before I extended the wheelbase and the engine swap. __________________ [B]"It's like a swore peeder, you can't beat it!"[/B] '90 YJ, TBI 350, SM-465, hi609, Ford 9" 5.13, and 36SX's

10-01-2004, 07:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Trailer Rails Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26440 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 313	That is how I got my YJ. Some kid rolled it down an embankment and ripped the winsheild and rear shock mounts off. He thought it was totaled and was about 5 sec from calling the junk yard. I did not even know him but I just overheard the conversation between him and someone I worked with. I told the kid I'd take it. He drove it over to my house the next day on 3 flat tires. I have been wheeling it since then. I had an offer of $2500 for it a couple weks after I got it. The only major problem is the windsheild cowel is pushed forward about 1" so it does not fit a hard top and soft tops don't work real well either. I'd say check the windsheild cowel for alignment if you are going to want any type of top other than a bkini.

10-01-2004, 09:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	yeah the top doesn't fit real good, so it may be just that, I thought that it would be just the windshield frame bent back about an 1", will have to take a closer look. __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 09:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	crawlthis, it looks like you have stock steering, if it is how much lift is okay with stock steering? I have no idea about jeeps. Also if i spring over the front would it need steering mods? __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 12:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
CRAWLTHIS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33341 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 48	Well I have recently redone the steering to high-steer. In the picture I was running the tierod and draglink off of a '97 ZJ. If you just get rid of the front panhard bar and get a dropped pitman arm (stock ZJ pitman arm is what I used) you should be okay. __________________ [B]"It's like a swore peeder, you can't beat it!"[/B] '90 YJ, TBI 350, SM-465, hi609, Ford 9" 5.13, and 36SX's

10-01-2004, 01:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
CRAWLTHIS Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33341 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 48	I have close to 7" of lift in those pictures and never had a problem with steering with the panhard bar removed. It is sping over with 1.5" rubicon SOA springs. __________________ [B]"It's like a swore peeder, you can't beat it!"[/B] '90 YJ, TBI 350, SM-465, hi609, Ford 9" 5.13, and 36SX's

10-01-2004, 01:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
Keith Strong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 477 Location: The Peeplz Republik Posts: 12,257	Water in the cylinders __________________ [CENTER][SIZE="5"][URL="http://www.strong-arms.com"]Strong Arms "Survival Slings" For Sale PM me for a PBB only price[/URL] [/SIZE][/CENTER]

10-01-2004, 02:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wally85toy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24749 Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada Posts: 131	yeah, it runs and drive great, it was a high speed roll, flipped twice and barely touched the ground, landed on it's wheels. It sort rotated on the front clip. __________________ [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Fixedsys"][/FONT]New YJ 2"BL NO RUBBER AND A BIG WINCH[/COLOR] [COLOR=SlateGray][FONT=Impact]Old Toy 33's 4" FRONT, RAISED SHOCK MOUNTS, CHEVIES WITH DOUBLE SHACKLE, LEAKS LIKE HELL[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]

10-01-2004, 02:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
jeepnmatt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9994 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 947	check the transfer-case for cracks or obvious fluid leaks. they seem to be the first to break. the frame and body can be straightened fairly reasonably on a frame rack. fix it good enough to wheel it...and don't worry about it! __________________ 1984 CJ-8 1986 CJ-7 1981/1992 CJYJ 1994 RAM 1500 4x4 Custom Fabrication Parts: [url]www.troutindustries.com[/url]

10-02-2004, 01:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
MrWillys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9991 Location: Cold Springs, NV Posts: 2,348	I went over four times at least (Can't remember, head was beating against the cage). It starting tearing the spring shackles out of the frame. I'd look closely at these. Also, I now know why people bolt the cage to the frame. I bent one axle aswell. Look close at the suspension cuz it pounds as it comes around. Good luck Oh yeah, couldn't you just buy a used frame cheaper than you could straighten that one if it's bent? __________________ [url]www.scotthansen.net[/url]

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