Topic of the Week or is it weak? What do we need to do to make THIS forum better?

[Steve N]

So What do we do to make this forum better? Should I go on one of my infamous tirades?

I'm going to need a few more :beers:



How about a check out the lingerie I got my (Hot GF/Wife) (or for Lame BF) for Xmas lingerie in/on your rig TOTW?


I'm up for Good TOTW suggestions PM me.

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by Steve N

So What do we do to make this forum better?

combine it with the chevy forum. the jeep forum is all about people putting chevy stuff on their jeeps and the chevy forum is all jeep people asking chevy people how to put chevy parts on their jeeps. make sense?



















oh and if mo got a dog and named him jeep...that might help.

[Keith Strong]

TIRADE! TIRADE! TIRADE!

And you still look fat in 31's

[1RUSTYRIG]

Our forum sucks because we spend most of our time chasing out trolls rather than having a progressive conversation over a tech subject. Half these fuck sticks would even be posting their bullshit if we were giving them something to read.

Additionaly, I can't even begin to fathom why TOTW would go away. EVERY single one of them has awesome feedback and almost all are still applicable today. Even if a topic has been discussed before there could be new information or a new way of thinking about things.

Lastly, I also feel that we should have a new moderator in this forum. Someone who gives a shit enough to post up a TOTW or even a TOTMonth or TOTquarter. Not to knock your performance here Steve, but we have all been saying this forum is broken for quite some time. Maybe you need some help?

Kevin

[IndyCJ]

:coming out of hiding:

Topic's of the week are good ideas, but they should be topic of the month. One week hardly gives it it's due. Unfortunately, there is no way to control information (bad) that goes into it, maybe a mod can 'remove' suspect posts within a TOTM?

As far as the forum itself. It sucks, but that's because Jeeps are so popular and every Tom, Dick and Keith can post up. What really sucks is the fact that you can only search and get '500' returned threads. While the old guys realize that the information has been hashed out, it may have been three or four years ago and unless you go archiving, it's impossible.

That's why I started the FAQ thread. I was hoping that it would eliminate the asshated posts, but it didn't.

Things will never be the way they were, I'm driving a Land Rover now , I'm sick of fawkin seeing Jeeps, and my new project that I'm starting will have a big block, a 4 speed and is only 2wd......

[Keith Strong]

Originally Posted by 1RUSTYRIG

Lastly, I also feel that we should have a new moderator in this forum. Someone who gives a shit enough to post up a TOTW or even a TOTMonth or TOTquarter. Not to knock your performance here Steve, but we have all been saying this forum is broken for quite some time. Maybe you need some help?

Kevin

I agree and disagree. I think Mo and Steve both do great jobs. And I think it is inevitable that this forum will never be what the old timers remember. There are just too many people here now and too many newbies jerkin off newbies on the posts. My suggestion would be this....STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO THEM COMPLETELY! Maybe we need to try a different approach. Reserve the hammerings for the really bad stuff, and just move move move everything to newbie.

On a side note, I would volunteer to be a 3rd mod in Jeep Talk just to help Mo and Steve keep up on the crap.

[Keith Strong]

Originally Posted by IndyCJ

and my new project that I'm starting will have a big block, a 4 speed and is only 2wd......

You scare me sometimes

[BEAR]

The general repair threads need to go somewhere else. Just delete them.
If you can’t fix it go to a mechanic.

TOTW/TOTM, should happen weekly/ monthly.
It seems the tech comes out of the closet on the TOTW threads and questions get answered. There is a lot of info on the TOTW threads and they seem to not get "lost" as easily.

The biggest problem that I can see is the mods allowing "vigilante justice", it’s your job to mod and if you can’t control the forum (even the old members) then you should bring in another or not be a moderator.
The flaming has ruined this thread for years now and some of it is necessary but its at a point were its trendy, a reason to pad, annoying and worst of all it's ruining any tech there could be. I'm guessing Lance put his finger on that issue for now though.

[1RUSTYRIG]

Originally Posted by Keith Strong

On a side note, I would volunteer to be a 3rd mod in Jeep Talk just to help Mo and Steve keep up on the crap.

And I would nominate you!



Kevin

[Keith Strong]

I am not trying to step on toes at all. I don't want to replace Mo....or Steve. Hell I dont even care if I am a mod or not.....I am just offering another set of eyes to help move shit. I am on the board basically 9 hours a day.

[IndyCJ]

Originally Posted by Keith Strong

On a side note, I would volunteer to be a 3rd mod in Jeep Talk just to help Mo and Steve keep up on the crap.

Maybe a 4th? I'd volunteer.

Since I'm not doing the "Jeep Thang" anymore, it'd work both to my advantage and disadvantage.

Advantage: I've seen enough good posts/bad posts to know the diff and I'm 'seperated' from Jeeps, so if I piss anyone off, I could care less.

Disadvantage: I might just let you fawkers kill each other then step in.




Another point that everyone needs to remember. PBB has gotten huge, I see Pirate4x4.com bumper stickers in magazines, and it's just natural that it's going to get huge just out of curiosity.

Kudo's to Lance, but it's become a beast and the newbie invasion is not just blamed on JU, Quadracrap or other forums, it's the beast within.

So, to a point, we need to live with the newbie asshattedness for the duration and give the old timers (like myself, strong, lame, hooder, bigdude, etc.) our own forum

[Keith Strong]

Originally Posted by IndyCJ

Since I'm not doing the "Jeep Thang" anymore

Traitor.

[Damage, Inc.]

'Better' is a pretty generalized term. You want more tech? More hardcore? I assume that most of the guys here have already fabbed up most or all their stuff so you either get new people in to post or the oldtimers post more old stuff.

And I agree...every single 'My 4.0 won't start' should be MOVED immediately, regardless of who started the thread.

[IndyCJ]

Originally Posted by Keith Strong

Traitor.

Let's just say it's a combination of things that have caused me to re-evaluate my position.

Wifey, money, job, kids, wifey, sick of staring at half done projects, wifey.

[MossMan]

More patrols and kicking bs threads to the Newbie forum is necessary. I'm not an old timer by any means but I think I started coming around at the tail end of "the good ol days" and it would be nice to have them back. I'm no mechanic and I did the first buildup of my YJ with knowledge gained almost exclusively at this site. No need to restate the difficulties of finding good tech now days. It's still here imo, just not as much, and too interspersed with crap.

[BEAR]

Originally Posted by MossMan

More patrols and kicking bs threads to the Newbie forum is necessary.

To add to that, I think that once something is moved it should not show up in the jeep forum, moving it and still having the heading there is clogging things up more than if it was just left alone.
If the poster can’t find it then so be it.

If a third mod was to be brought in I feel it should be someone neutral and not affiliated with any "clicks", someone that could mod without bias. (sorry Keith)

[Keith Strong]

I am sure there are a lot of people that don't want me as a mod I am not offended

[bspencer]

i dont come in here much anymore because most of the time you open a thread and it has 100 posts of people saying " burn in hell newbie..... you suck!" rather than jsut not replying or trying top send the guy in the right direction

this also mahorly screws up the search feature since most anything you will get is something that turned intoi a newbie bashing or the like

hell you get better treatment in the general chit chat forum

[MossMan]

What would really be nice is someone going in and cleaning out all teh BS; no tech havin'; dumfuk spewin' threads so that when a person DID do a search he'd actually be able to find something

[Keith Strong]

Originally Posted by bspencer

i dont come in here much anymore because most of the time you open a thread and it has 100 posts of people saying " burn in hell newbie..... you suck!" rather than jsut not replying or trying top send the guy in the right direction

I agree. The hazing was fun, but as said earlier, it has become more of a "cool" thing to do than a fun educational tool

[MossMan]

I think the JTMS and Jeep Talk FAQ's need to be mandatory reading BEFORE someone can post. I don't know exactly how to accomplish this but it would help. There's a lot of good stuff bookmarked in that thread. And to be completely honest, I didn't even know it was all in there until I looked just now. Maybe that's my own dumbass fault or maybe it needs to be in BIGGER, BRIGHTER letters.

Regardless, we should try to steer more people to those two threads.

[kwrangln]

So we just need to make it a rule that flaming should be joined with tech. Its OK to call a dumbfawk a dumbfawk as long as you prove to dumbfawk why he's a dumbfawk by showing said dumbfawk how easy it was for you to find the answer that dumbfawk was lookin for.

I.E.

Your a dumbfawk, use the search button, I did and it took me 2 seconds to find what you were looking for, CLICK HERE DUMBFAWK.

See, we can still have fun with the dumbfawks and keep the tech at the forefront.

[Weasel]

nother mod sounds good to me. And yeah one the posts have been moved elminate them showing up still in the Jeep side.

[thump93yj]

Originally Posted by Keith Strong

My suggestion would be this....STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO THEM COMPLETELY! Maybe we need to try a different approach. Reserve the hammerings for the really bad stuff, and just move move move everything to newbie.

AMEN!

and... totm would be good.

[LazyDog]

It's so hard to sort out the tech from the bashing when you go searching for something. IMO, bashing has become the safe way to pad your post count.

Yes, it's silly to see: "my 4.0L won't start" threads, but they should be moved, not become a 40 post padding bashing thread.

I've been a member for more than a year and a lurker for many years. The only reason I joined was to contribute some $$$ to do my part in keeping the site running. I hardly ever post because I don't see the point. No matter what my question is, there's no doubt that it's been asked/answered before... I never come here to ask a question, just too search. Is this the kind of forum everyone wants? I forum where only old-timers post and everyone else just lurks? Maybe it is what you want... if so, carry on.