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yjfish · 02-15-2002, 05:45 PM

My 91 soa YJ is getting a little crazy with the spring wrap. I broke my rear pinion yoke!
Ive seen the pics on here on traction bars. Ive searched

I have a friend that came up with a idea that instead of using a shackle, that make a telescoping/traveling/slip through the upper arm???? Any opinions???

CJ-Jeeper · 02-15-2002, 07:17 PM

I would think it would bind & not want to move when there is pressure on it

66CJdean · 02-15-2002, 07:39 PM

That is what I thought. It sounds like something you will need to grease allot if nothing else. The shackle idea works and is simple.

moabyj · 02-15-2002, 08:22 PM

if you have the angle of your bar so it lifts..instead of pulls..it could work....but its goin to get sloppier with wear....and what this does..is it lifts the vehicle....(the body) from the suspension..actually taking away from the tires....
the best is a two rod system that the bottom pushes and the top pulls...this way it cant wrap and the weight of the vehicle is pulled down onto the tires.

emsoffroad · 02-15-2002, 11:33 PM

I had one like that on my cj for some time. The first one broke due to, too sharp of an angle from the lower bar. The second on broke the crossmember. The new one will have a shackle mounted setup. This seams to be the best for this type setup.

H8monday · 02-16-2002, 03:12 AM

I use a goofy shackle set up.
The bushings give great wrap control, without being as rigid as a Heim.
The "goofy", allows for the side to side angle of the axle, even with extreme articulation, along with forward and rear travel of the rear axle as it travels through its entire suspension cycle.
It has nearly no adverse affect on articulation.
They only cost a few bucks, and are fairly easy to fab, but a little time consuming as compared to a simple shackle. However you dont have to keep the shackle bolts loose, to allow for side to side, so the axle wrap control, and power to the ground, is more positve,(and easier on the bushings).

Alaskan Assassin · 02-16-2002, 10:58 AM

Here is a picture of the shackle set up we did on our wrap bar.. Works great

Hackle · 02-16-2002, 04:24 PM

I just had an anti-wrap bar built for my SOA YJ. We used a shackle also.

TxCruzr · 02-16-2002, 07:16 PM

When building mine they used a shackel...simple, and effective.
Here is the one that was built for my SOA FJ-40...

Joseph A.

doctor_G · 02-17-2002, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DownunderBender
I use a goofy shackle set up.
The bushings give great wrap control, without being as rigid as a Heim.
The "goofy", allows for the side to side angle of the axle, even with extreme articulation, along with forward and rear travel of the rear axle as it travels through its entire suspension cycle.
It has nearly no adverse affect on articulation.
They only cost a few bucks, and are fairly easy to fab, but a little time consuming as compared to a simple shackle. However you dont have to keep the shackle bolts loose, to allow for side to side, so the axle wrap control, and power to the ground, is more positve,(and easier on the bushings).

So its basically a shackle with a twist.

This is a great idea, does everything a simple shackle will do except bind up. I like it.

yjfish · 02-18-2002, 05:05 AM

thanks guys, I'll have to try to shackle it.

Boston Mangler · 02-18-2002, 06:07 AM

Damn Hackle

Thats a work of art!

Nice work!

Hackle · 02-18-2002, 05:14 PM

Thanks for the comment but the credit goes to John at Hunter Offroad a local shop. I do most of my own work but that was well beyond my skill level.

02-15-2002, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
yjfish Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3109 Location: Nebraska Posts: 89	traction bar idea My 91 soa YJ is getting a little crazy with the spring wrap. I broke my rear pinion yoke! Ive seen the pics on here on traction bars. Ive searched I have a friend that came up with a idea that instead of using a shackle, that make a telescoping/traveling/slip through the upper arm???? Any opinions??? __________________ 91 YJ, 4 banger, 4.88, Lockrite F/R, SOA, 35's, TJ flares 2002 HD1500 Crew Cab Jeep Hauler

02-15-2002, 07:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
CJ-Jeeper Rock God Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2095 Location: Belmont / Modesto, CA Posts: 1,344	I would think it would bind & not want to move when there is pressure on it __________________ '79CJ5,soa,d44/60,t18,d18w/Obrian 3.6low,5.13's,35x14.5SSR's '02 Z71

02-15-2002, 07:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
66CJdean Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2000 Member # 940 Location: Lincoln, Ca Posts: 6,398	That is what I thought. It sounds like something you will need to grease allot if nothing else. The shackle idea works and is simple. __________________ WWW.PCRYO.COM Deep Cryogenic Tempering Service Find all my products at www.KICKASSOFFROAD.COM 916-434-6978 Custom Axles built to order. Got 40 spline? I have the hubs, spindles, and axles you need to kickass! Custom Hummer wheels and centers Axle Resplining

02-15-2002, 08:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
moabyj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9640 Location: moab Posts: 40	if you have the angle of your bar so it lifts..instead of pulls..it could work....but its goin to get sloppier with wear....and what this does..is it lifts the vehicle....(the body) from the suspension..actually taking away from the tires.... the best is a two rod system that the bottom pushes and the top pulls...this way it cant wrap and the weight of the vehicle is pulled down onto the tires. __________________ 93 wrangler, dana 44 front r/c , arb 5.13 warn exteme duty outers, 9in rear, detroit, 5.13 3in alcan front springs, 2 1/2 skyjackers rear, spring over, traction bar, 37in ssr's 4.0 ax15

02-15-2002, 11:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
emsoffroad Rock God Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1802 Location: Shamokin, PA Posts: 1,700	I had one like that on my cj for some time. The first one broke due to, too sharp of an angle from the lower bar. The second on broke the crossmember. The new one will have a shackle mounted setup. This seams to be the best for this type setup. __________________ EMS Offroad

02-16-2002, 03:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
H8monday Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1065 Location: Weimar, CA Posts: 4,748	I use a goofy shackle set up. The bushings give great wrap control, without being as rigid as a Heim. The "goofy", allows for the side to side angle of the axle, even with extreme articulation, along with forward and rear travel of the rear axle as it travels through its entire suspension cycle. It has nearly no adverse affect on articulation. They only cost a few bucks, and are fairly easy to fab, but a little time consuming as compared to a simple shackle. However you dont have to keep the shackle bolts loose, to allow for side to side, so the axle wrap control, and power to the ground, is more positve,(and easier on the bushings). __________________ Pirates of the Rubicon Announcing is tough,..I need a beer

02-16-2002, 10:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Alaskan Assassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 3995 Location: Alaska Posts: 766	Here is a picture of the shackle set up we did on our wrap bar.. Works great __________________ 1973 CJ-5, 302HO, NP435, Atlas, Ford HP D60, Detroit,4:56 gears,3 Link,14" travel SwayAWay coil overs, PSC Full Hydro, Rear Dana 60, Spool,4:56 gears, 35 Splined Currie HD shafts, 4 link, 16" Rock Equipment Coil overs, 44x19.5 boggers 112" WB [URL=http://www.winingeroff-road.com]Wininger Off-Road[/URL]

02-16-2002, 04:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hackle Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8927 Location: Phx. AZ Posts: 88	I just had an anti-wrap bar built for my SOA YJ. We used a shackle also. __________________ "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member." Last edited by Hackle; 04-23-2002 at 06:15 PM.

02-16-2002, 07:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
TxCruzr Wait this ain't Tx.. Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9380 Location: Del Boca Vista, AZ Posts: 2,191	When building mine they used a shackel...simple, and effective. Here is the one that was built for my SOA FJ-40... Joseph A. Attached Images __________________ "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." -Ernest Hemingway '69 FJ-40 - under construction

02-18-2002, 05:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
yjfish Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3109 Location: Nebraska Posts: 89	thanks guys, I'll have to try to shackle it. __________________ 91 YJ, 4 banger, 4.88, Lockrite F/R, SOA, 35's, TJ flares 2002 HD1500 Crew Cab Jeep Hauler

02-18-2002, 06:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
Boston Mangler Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2056 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,389	Damn Hackle Thats a work of art! Nice work! __________________ Currently Cruiserless, But Still "One Good Looking MoFo" 2006 XR650L TLCA #9060

02-18-2002, 05:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Hackle Newbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8927 Location: Phx. AZ Posts: 88	Thanks for the comment but the credit goes to John at Hunter Offroad a local shop. I do most of my own work but that was well beyond my skill level. __________________ "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member."

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