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JeepinDoug · 03-01-2005, 09:38 PM

I love happy endings.

This is great sample of the "School of hard Rocks" evolution.

Cool.

rockstar · 03-01-2005, 10:18 PM

sweet rig

StockChevy · 03-01-2005, 10:30 PM

That's awesome. When I started reading this thread and seeing the pics I thought it was just going to get some 33's or somthing. I was not at all expecting this!!!

Very nice job!!

JeffsJeep04 · 03-01-2005, 11:53 PM

This is more of what jeep tech needs...personal builds. What works and what doesn't. We've pretty much bench raced all the parts out there to death, so we have to move on to something new.

Rig looks sweet, even though I think black/orange is a little abrasive. It deffinately pulls it off.

cisco · 03-02-2005, 04:42 AM

man you have inspired me to finish mine. it is sitting on 4 jackstands awaiting a wheelbase stretch. i really needed this thread today!!!

Go_Vols · 03-02-2005, 06:34 AM

The steering gear is currently getting it's hydro ports made - I should have it and the hydro parts in the rig this weekend and I'd be happy to take a few pics. It's quite easy, it bolts into the same frame holes as the stock TJ - and with my axle pushed forward the geometry works out almost perfectly. I'll get some pics to better explain...

The 14-bolt is shaved - it's actually a 13-bolt. I haven't checked ground clearance at trail pressure, but I'd guess it's around 16-17" - I think it's at 19" of clearance right now at 30psi in the garage -- but again, I'd have to check.

UPDATE: I was off -- it's got about 14" under the diff sitting on flat concrete with 2 psi in the left rear tire and probably about 10 in the right rear tire.

MC · 03-02-2005, 07:24 AM

Nice graduation

98XJDMB · 03-02-2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffsJeep04

This is more of what jeep tech needs...personal builds. What works and what doesn't. We've pretty much bench raced all the parts out there to death, so we have to move on to something new.

Rig looks sweet, even though I think black/orange is a little abrasive. It deffinately pulls it off.

i agree, but then again this is my first post.

4x4not · 03-02-2005, 08:46 AM

I think have inspired me to look for a pair of 60s

jeepthing77 · 03-04-2005, 05:25 PM

Nice Build

I would be interested in seeing a write up with some detailed pictures on the front stretch.... mainly the steering.

Thanks

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:30 PM

Wheelbase is ~113" - achieved by pushing front axle forward and rear axle backward without any frame changes. The entire frame was cleaned of its stock bracketry and I built a new suspension for the longer wheelbase.

New front axle position:

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:35 PM

Anothe pic of the front end

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:39 PM

Steering - Chevy Astro van reverse motion gearbox. Bolts directly to the frame using the stock TJ mounting locations, hardware, hydro-fittings and mates correctly to the TJ steering shaft - this was a breeze.

Note: Fittings visible in picture are for the ram

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:42 PM

More shots of steering

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:43 PM

another

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:45 PM

another steering shot

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:47 PM

one last one from the other side

Go_Vols · 03-06-2005, 08:49 PM

and finally with the tires back on...and a bunch of plastic (painting my new tube fenders while on the vehicle...)

TNScrambler · 03-06-2005, 09:26 PM

Looks good....I take it you moved to Texas via TN, and judging by all the orange and name you at least spent some time in Knoxville, where many have been accused of bleeding orange?

Oh, and the jeep looks good, I like the astro van steering box.

Justin

TexasBlake · 03-06-2005, 09:33 PM

I like the steering box.

Amount how many inches forward did that allow you to put your axle?

I moved my axle forward two inches, and it messed my steering angles all to hell.

LordRatner · 03-06-2005, 09:43 PM

What Cage kit is that and how much was it? It's exactly what I am looking for.

Or am I confusing a custom built cage with a kit a saw once?

Go_Vols · 03-07-2005, 06:51 AM

TNScrambler -- grew up in Nashville, blood's officially orange, but I actually attended that "other" SEC school in TN -- think black, gold, hot women and a terrible football team - it was a diploma thing.

TXBlake - 8" in the front and about 11" in the rear. For the front stretch, since the steering box is in the same physical position, imagine 2 pitman arms worth of distance (one facing back + one facing forward) and that's about how much I was able to push it forward.

Sir Ratner - The cage is a Tennessee Offroad weld-in package (Tennessee, imagine that). At the time I got mine, one of my high school friends owned the company so I got a pretty sweet deal - I think the retail price for a full-blown kit is around $400 for materials + shipping - and then you have to install it and weld it in. That's a very reasonable price for what you're getting when you compare it the price and work involved in fabbing your own cage.

JohnnyJ · 03-07-2005, 07:23 AM

Is that the stock Astro pitman? It's supa flat.

Go_Vols · 03-07-2005, 07:27 AM

I assume it's stock -- bought the gear off ebay and that's what it showed up with...

DOAOFFROAD · 03-07-2005, 07:32 AM

What year steering boxes are applicable?

03-01-2005, 09:38 PM	#26 (permalink)
JeepinDoug Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 13028 Location: So.S.F., CA Posts: 3,124	I love happy endings. This is great sample of the "School of hard Rocks" evolution. Cool. __________________ I may lack much in way of integrety but I make up for it with pure denial. [URL=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377480][B][COLOR="Red"]Malvado Grande #1[/COLOR][/B][/URL]

03-01-2005, 10:18 PM	#27 (permalink)
rockstar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39293 Posts: 56	sweet rig __________________ www.PeakEmpire.com

03-01-2005, 11:53 PM	#29 (permalink)
JeffsJeep04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24475 Location: Menomonie, WI Posts: 1,142	This is more of what jeep tech needs...personal builds. What works and what doesn't. We've pretty much bench raced all the parts out there to death, so we have to move on to something new. Rig looks sweet, even though I think black/orange is a little abrasive. It deffinately pulls it off. __________________ 2000 WJ Limited 4.7 quadradrive

03-02-2005, 06:34 AM	#31 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	The steering gear is currently getting it's hydro ports made - I should have it and the hydro parts in the rig this weekend and I'd be happy to take a few pics. It's quite easy, it bolts into the same frame holes as the stock TJ - and with my axle pushed forward the geometry works out almost perfectly. I'll get some pics to better explain... The 14-bolt is shaved - it's actually a 13-bolt. I haven't checked ground clearance at trail pressure, but I'd guess it's around 16-17" - I think it's at 19" of clearance right now at 30psi in the garage -- but again, I'd have to check. UPDATE: I was off -- it's got about 14" under the diff sitting on flat concrete with 2 psi in the left rear tire and probably about 10 in the right rear tire. __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url] Last edited by Go_Vols; 03-16-2005 at 01:21 PM.

03-02-2005, 07:24 AM	#32 (permalink)
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03-01-2005, 10:30 PM	#28 (permalink)
StockChevy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37859 Location: Lacey, Wa Posts: 463	That's awesome. When I started reading this thread and seeing the pics I thought it was just going to get some 33's or somthing. I was not at all expecting this!!! Very nice job!!

03-02-2005, 04:42 AM	#30 (permalink)
cisco In Thx for chance Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37769 Location: arkansas Posts: 1,739 Blog Entries: 10	man you have inspired me to finish mine. it is sitting on 4 jackstands awaiting a wheelbase stretch. i really needed this thread today!!!

03-02-2005, 08:46 AM	#34 (permalink)
4x4not Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27342 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,267	I think have inspired me to look for a pair of 60s __________________ Unwheeled

03-04-2005, 05:25 PM	#35 (permalink)
jeepthing77 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20859 Location: Denver Posts: 87	Nice Build I would be interested in seeing a write up with some detailed pictures on the front stretch.... mainly the steering. Thanks

03-06-2005, 08:30 PM	#36 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	Wheelbase is ~113" - achieved by pushing front axle forward and rear axle backward without any frame changes. The entire frame was cleaned of its stock bracketry and I built a new suspension for the longer wheelbase. New front axle position: Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-06-2005, 08:35 PM	#37 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	Anothe pic of the front end Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-06-2005, 08:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	Steering - Chevy Astro van reverse motion gearbox. Bolts directly to the frame using the stock TJ mounting locations, hardware, hydro-fittings and mates correctly to the TJ steering shaft - this was a breeze. Note: Fittings visible in picture are for the ram Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url] Last edited by Go_Vols; 03-06-2005 at 08:40 PM.

03-06-2005, 08:42 PM	#39 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	More shots of steering Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-06-2005, 08:43 PM	#40 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	another Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url] Last edited by Go_Vols; 03-06-2005 at 08:45 PM.

03-06-2005, 08:45 PM	#41 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	another steering shot Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url] Last edited by Go_Vols; 03-06-2005 at 08:47 PM.

03-06-2005, 08:47 PM	#42 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	one last one from the other side Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-06-2005, 08:49 PM	#43 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	and finally with the tires back on...and a bunch of plastic (painting my new tube fenders while on the vehicle...) Attached Images __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-06-2005, 09:26 PM	#44 (permalink)
TNScrambler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10818 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 843	Looks good....I take it you moved to Texas via TN, and judging by all the orange and name you at least spent some time in Knoxville, where many have been accused of bleeding orange? Oh, and the jeep looks good, I like the astro van steering box. Justin __________________ random parts stashed in various locations that might someday become part of a Jeep ;)

03-06-2005, 09:33 PM	#45 (permalink)
TexasBlake El Guapo Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9722 Location: ColoradoBlake Posts: 4,736	I like the steering box. Amount how many inches forward did that allow you to put your axle? I moved my axle forward two inches, and it messed my steering angles all to hell.

03-06-2005, 09:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
LordRatner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10053 Location: FL180 Posts: 1,809	What Cage kit is that and how much was it? It's exactly what I am looking for. Or am I confusing a custom built cage with a kit a saw once?

03-07-2005, 06:51 AM	#47 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	TNScrambler -- grew up in Nashville, blood's officially orange, but I actually attended that "other" SEC school in TN -- think black, gold, hot women and a terrible football team - it was a diploma thing. TXBlake - 8" in the front and about 11" in the rear. For the front stretch, since the steering box is in the same physical position, imagine 2 pitman arms worth of distance (one facing back + one facing forward) and that's about how much I was able to push it forward. Sir Ratner - The cage is a Tennessee Offroad weld-in package (Tennessee, imagine that). At the time I got mine, one of my high school friends owned the company so I got a pretty sweet deal - I think the retail price for a full-blown kit is around $400 for materials + shipping - and then you have to install it and weld it in. That's a very reasonable price for what you're getting when you compare it the price and work involved in fabbing your own cage. __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-07-2005, 07:23 AM	#48 (permalink)
JohnnyJ Low Range Drifter Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7903 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 2,730	Is that the stock Astro pitman? It's supa flat. __________________ DEAK Racing #715 TREC B / Ultra 4 Mod Class Rig Thanks to Drivetrain Specialists and PAC Racing Springs for your support

03-07-2005, 07:27 AM	#49 (permalink)
Go_Vols Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12691 Location: Houston Posts: 1,012	I assume it's stock -- bought the gear off ebay and that's what it showed up with... __________________ "Lil'T" - 99TJ RC60/14B/Klune 4:1/Atlas 6:1/H1/44"TSLs/PSC Full-Hydro... Rollover Ratio = 1.0:3 [url]www.tgtwoffroad.com[/url]

03-07-2005, 07:32 AM	#50 (permalink)
DOAOFFROAD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26573 Location: Ohio Posts: 120	What year steering boxes are applicable? __________________ http://www.crazybabyclothing.com/cool-baby-onesies-c-24.html

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