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When Willy's received the contract, the goverments was concerned about their ability to produce sufficent quantities (who wouldn't be in the middle of a war) and Willy's was forced to hand over their blueprints to Ford, which was also given a contract to produce the 1/4 ton truck. The Ford version was knows as the GPW. Original Ford documents explain the origin as "G"=government contract, "P"=the designation for an 80 inch wheelbase, and "W"=Willy's design. Thus the term GP entered the nomenclature, but it did not mean "general purpose". This mistake pervades even in encyclopedias: http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Jeep sources: http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Poster/GP.html http://www.dewit.ca/archs/jeep/index.html http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/We...pNamePage.html And the document: http://members.aol.com/WW2JeepMBGPW/...PGPnameDoc.jpg edit: link fixed
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The data above shows that there were no manual trannies after 1983, maybe a typo?
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I know the original poster requested that all info be typed in and then linked for reference but there is just too much on this site and I wasn't sure what exactly would be best to post here.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html There's a ton of info on early Jeeps, a good timeline of Jeeps, and a cool page with info about international models produced under the Jeep name. |
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V8 gearing seems to have been sparatic. one thing is for sure, the 'tow package' gave you 3.73's. other than that it was the luck of the draw whether you got 3.55s or 3.73s. i6 are all 3.55s.
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I have a couple of observations on CJ transmissions. I worked in a dealership in the early 80s and never saw a CJ7 or CJ8 ('80 up) with a t-176 (sr4/t5 with I4 and t4/t5 with the I6) unless it had a V8 (I only saw one of those). If you got an 80 up Stock CJ with a V8, You got a rare bird (in Calif. anyway). I never saw a t-18 (or a 3 speed) in a CJ after 79. CJ5s with the I6 after 79 (never saw a CJ5 with a V8 after 79) all had the t176. It never made any sense to me they would put the stronger trans. in the lighter CJ but it is all I ever saw (I think it had to do with the lower 1st gear in the t4). I also never saw a t5 in a CJ5 (but I dont think Calif. got any CJ5s after 81, maybe 80). Maybe this is a Calif. thing like the serpentine belts on Calif. I6s after 81.
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86 FSJ's started switching back to Dana 44 rear, which they kept til the last 90 / 91 model year trucks were sold.
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Someone sort of local sell me a Dodge NP435, or the mainshaft/tailhousing from one. Or, sell me a Ford NP208 input gear... |
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I've never heard of a J6000. The highest number I know of is the J4000.
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Just a few notes: The J100 was the Wagoneer designator and J200 the Jeep truck. J300 was the camper special, usually with dual wheels.
232 was available well into '71 (they changed the 6 cyl bell pattern at the end of the '71 model year). 258 was available with the small pattern bellhousing ONLY in '71. After that, they shared the larger bell pattern with AMC V8 (likely due to the smaller clutch in the smaller bell getting toasted too easily and bellhousing cracking from the extra torque). Rear D44 had 2 piece axles. Front axle was closed knuckle EXCEPT a few drum brake 5 on 5.5" pattern wags made between '71 and '73. (I've seen only 2 personally) Quote:
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The J pickup was always wider axle than the Wagoneer. Front was the same width as Wide Track Cherokees, but the rear WT Cherokee width is between Wag and pickup (due to the constraints of the rear fenders, even with flares)
All Widetracks have flared fenders, but not all flare fender rigs are Wide Track. 232 was available till late '71 (when the 6 cyl bell pattern changed) Anyone with a '71 or older smaller bell 6 with TH400 auto should contact me. <G> (I know some people who claim it NEVER came that way) T-5 trans was available as an option in J10s with 6 cyl '80 to '86 (I have the remnants of the one from my '83 J10) with NP208 tcase only. 999 auto was available with the 6 cyl in Cherokees and pickups '80 to '86. T18 4 speed is @4:1 first gear and T18A is @6:1 Front axle was RH drop till '79 and LH drop '80 to '91 except a couple leftover custom ordered rigs in '80. Rears were RH offset till '79 as well. Quote:
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