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Old 08-22-2001, 08:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone know if the rumors are true Superior is coming out w/ a stronger axle kit for the Dana 44?

If it matters, looking into it since I'm re-gearing/ putting in a Detroit. If I'm opening up, might as well overbuild it.

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Old 08-22-2001, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah it's true. Check out Superior
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As far as I know, the uper 44 kit is already out, IM in the process of sticking a 44 under my rig, and when funds become available, I'll do the super 44 with an OX, and disc brake conversion.
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Old 08-22-2001, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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o please, whats the point of a super 44 kit? big deal it changes the shafts to 33 spline as apposed to 30 spline.... WOW! if you guys want something super you must first start out with something super, like a 14-bolt, dana 60, 70, etc.... and dont give me the " but what about my ground clearance whinny crap!"

In the end you'll have mass amounts of money in a Dana 44 trying to make it something it isnt.

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Just a question, how many of you fawkers are running around snapping D44's with 38.5's and under?

I think a lot of people are gettin D60's not because they need to, but because the "cool" kids are doing it. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

On the other hand, some people actually need D60's.
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Old 08-22-2001, 12:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yep. that's what i'll do. trash the 44 in my 10k mile tj w/ 33's, spend 1000's on a d60 i OBVIOUSLY need. right..... that makes fawkin sense.

the whole point was, I'm opening the thing up already, for gears and a locker. i didn't want your fawkin opinion, just wanted to know if the things were available.

i guess now i know how to sound smart around here.... just answer "D60" to every fawkin question. get your head out of your arse.
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<STRONG>I plan on going to 38s so I am having an axle built for me (because I an't find any good ones near me, and I have the $$ fo rit right now). For $200 more I can have a D60 vs a D44. I figured why not. A friend of mine has a D44 with 38s and he has snapped his many times. But he is heavy on the gas. For 33s the D44 is plenty strong. If you can get a good locker with stronger shafts why not. JMO

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Same deal for me, I'm probably going to run 38's, and a 350, so a D44 would be a bit shakey in the rear, but I am going to keep a D44 up front.
I have a buddy with a YJ with the 2.5, he is running a super 35, and it has performed flawlessly, now if he gets some power, the axle will shread. I think D60's are way over kill for most of the Jeep guys out there. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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[qb]I plan on going to 38s so I am having an axle built for me (because I an't find any good ones near me, and I have the $$ fo rit right now). For $200 more I can have a D60 vs a D44. I figured why not. A friend of mine has a D44 with 38s and he has snapped his many times. But he is heavy on the gas. For 33s the D44 is plenty strong. If you can get a good locker with stronger shafts why not. JMO

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Same deal for me, I'm probably going to run 38's, and a 350, so a D44 would be a bit shakey in the rear, but I am going to keep a D44 up front.
I have a buddy with a YJ with the 2.5, he is running a super 35, and it has performed flawlessly, now if he gets some power, the axle will shread. I think D60's are way over kill for most of the Jeep guys out there. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">[/QB]

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a yj i know of runs 35's w/ small block, 30/super 35 combo. trashed the 30, the 35 has held up great. gotta be pushing the limit though.

yeah yeah i know he should p/u a pair of dana 60's. and a big block. and an SOA so 44's will fit.
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Old 08-22-2001, 12:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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hey arsehole if you've got such a hard-on for d60's, why are you running a 44 and an 8.8?
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<STRONG>i guess now i know how to sound smart around here.... just answer "D60" to every fawkin question. </STRONG>
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Just for interests sake, I emailed and got this response regarding new products to strengthen Dana 44s:

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The current Super 44 Kit will be made with the TJ d44 axle lengths at the beginning. I am positive we will be addressing the Wagoneer housings as it seems to be a common upgrade.

We are not currently making the front 44 axles with the upgraded spline as of yet but that too is in the making.

We have just changed our front axle design and it will be debuting at this years SEMA show in Las Vegas. The 30 spline version will most definitely be stronger.


As for the U-Joint. Yes there is (a stronger u joint coming out). We will also be debuting the new Superior U-Joint at SEMA. It is going to be made out of some really tough material and will have perfect heat treatment.

We are also going to be debuting our new D-60 front axles at SEMA. This will definitely be a revolutionary year for our company with the many new products we have coming out.

Thank you,
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So for those of you fawkers goddam insane enough to want to hang on to your POS D44s instead of turnin them into ass trays, you might want to wait and see what comes out at this year's SEMA from these guys and others.

Provided, of course, that you decide to keep wasting time with that Dana 44 shit, instead of upgrading to the only axle worth talking about, a Dana 60 god dammit!

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<STRONG>Provided, of course, that you decide to keep wasting time with that Dana 44 shit, instead of upgrading to the only axle worth talking about, a Dana 60 god dammit!</STRONG>
This is the thread that just keeps on giving!

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Hey there Hot Money, didnt mean to get your little g-string all tangled up.. wow really must be a touchy subject huh?

And thats pretty comedy how that guy you know has a 350 and 35" tires in a jeep with a dana 30 / 35 combo. wow! sounds like someone was using that as a parking lot jeep!! because if it ever touched dirt that piece of sh1t 30 and 35 would have busted like a twig... And as far as why im running an 8.8 and a 44 combo is because it works great for what im using my jeep for now. with the 38's I can get away with these axles and still hammered them.
But once the 38.5's come off and the 42's go on i'll be selling those axle to some parking lot jeepers like yourself for way more than I even paid for them in the first place. LOL! All I know is I wouldnt waste my money on building a Dana 44, especially for how much it costs!

and whats this about why spend 1000's on a Dana 60. Do you morons know how much money it would take to build a Dana 44 even remotly close to the strength of a stcok wrecking yard Dana 60???? HELLO! know who's wasting the 1000's!!!

So whatever! waste your money on whatever you want, I guess what it comes down to is what you want out of your jeep! if your going to use it once a year for some minor wheelin than keep the 30/35 combo, or 44.. Im building mine for what I want. Thats why im going to be running a 14bolt rear, and dana 60 front with 42's...
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Personally I'd rather replace a cheap u-joing every couple of months than waste my $$$ on a D60
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<STRONG>So whatever! waste your money on whatever you want, I guess what it comes down to is what you want out of your jeep! if your going to use it once a year for some minor wheelin than keep the 30/35 combo, or 44.. Im building mine for what I want. Thats why im going to be running a 14bolt rear, and dana 60 front with 42's...</STRONG>
Rockbuggy, you keep kicking your own ass in this post. Not everyone needs a D60, I think 38.5's and up, with some power need a rear D60, but most guys aren't running that set up. Why does a D44 turn in to a POS for a guy that is going to run 33's? Because you are going to own a couple of D60's someday, doesn't make D44's weak, all of a sudden.
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Nobody hear is arguing that a Dana 60 isnt far superior in strength to a 44, but for some people a 60 is ridiculous overkill. What am i supposed to do, run a 60 on my jeep with 33's. The damn pumpkin will drag over speed bumps. If you plan on going with 38" + then yeah a 60 makes sense, but if not then it is totally worthless. For me a 44 makes sense because I dont plan on ever going bigger then 36's and with a V-6 supplying the power I dont think I'll ever need anything more then a 44. The weight and clearance problems outweigh the strength difference in this scenario IMHO

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Yo buggy bitch get a clue. A D60 and 14 bolt are not the answer to all problems.

Not everyone wants to have a one ton CJ, some folks are happy wiht less.

And you do realize that not everyone shares your build philosophy right? and that people who disagree with you are not always wrong right?

Big parts are not always the answear my frined, a 44 offers a lot of good things. Plus you can build it over time for less then the 60, it has a nice buy in period. Not to mention there are alot of guys who wheel a lot but just don't do the stuff where you need a 60. I mean if you run your 2.5 through trails on 36" tires do you reallyneed a 60? Me? I plan on going 60/60 combo....if I ever get the cash. This did not stop me from running my D30/35 combo for 4 years with a 350 and SM465...no busted parts either. No I didn;t hit the hardest of the hard, I wanted to but why break shit right?

Plus don't get bitchy about shit when you don't even have all the good guy shit yourself. Your sig even sez you ain't hardcore enough to have the pimpdaddy parts.

And on top of that....when did the goal of owning a jeep become being more "hardcore" then the next guy? I thought the point of it was to have fun, run trails and do what you like. If you like to run a 60 and a 14 more power to you, but don't get on some dude who wants to run a 44/44 combo becaus eit fits HIS needs and makes HIM happy.
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Im not saying a Dana 44 is a POS, I have one thats had no problems so far. Im just saying I wouldnt waste any of my money on building one up, especially because for the $800 dollar or whatever it cost for the superior kit your not getting much more stregth for your money... Thats all im saying. and if your running 33's 35's whatever im sure a d44 is strong as hell for that combo...
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thanks for your input dooche dug!
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Not a problem buggy bitch.

I mean it makes me feel really good about myself that some one as hardcore as yourself even noticed a me.

Honestley, it means so much to me that one of the big boys spoke to me, I feel so much better about myself now. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>yep. that's what i'll do. trash the 44 in my 10k mile tj w/ 33's, spend 1000's on a d60 i OBVIOUSLY need. right..... that makes fawkin sense.

the whole point was, I'm opening the thing up already, for gears and a locker. i didn't want your fawkin opinion, just wanted to know if the things were available.

i guess now i know how to sound smart around here.... just answer "D60" to every fawkin question. get your head out of your arse.</STRONG>
I couldn't agree more. I am one of the fawkers with 60's but it is a trail only rig and when I upgraded I decided to upgrade but a 30 spline axle will take some abuse so a 33 should be great.
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I have the same parts to go into my YJ right now. 60 front and 14 bolt rear. I currently have a 44 front 9" rear with 38.5's. I run a 4.0/999/300 and have been sorta concerned with the front axles. I havent broken and YET but I want to be able to get a little throttle happy if I want and not worry. So I am contemplating just waiting for the 44 to hatch and buy bigger axles.
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Personally I'd rather replace a cheap u-joing every couple of months than waste my $$$ on a D60
that's all fine and dandy but every time i broke a 297 in my old d44 it took out the ears of the shafts so how much $$$ are you spending then? this is with 35" swampers. the d44 does have it's place but i was breaking hubs and u-joints and i got tired of it. i went 60 and havn't broken sinceand i am running 38.5's now. if you plan on playing hard then might as well go big cause your gonna need it.
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[QB]of my money on building one up, especially because for the $800 dollar or whatever it cost for the superior kit your not getting much more stregth for your money... TQB]

Well considering that $800 for the Super 44 includes a Detroit Locker or OX locker that's half the cost of the kit right there. Plus like in my case getting the facotry 44 why not build it up? Is it going to hurt anything but my wallet? Probably not! Is the axle going be weaker? Probably not! In your case with what you plan on running go 60's you'll need em. Question... how much is it going to cost you to build up your 60's? (Figuring gears, locker, etc...) I'm thinking more than $800 when it's said and done and I'm figuring a junkyard axle. Get your 60 and be happy. Let him get the Super 44 if that's what he wants and will make him happy.

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