Stretch the front or not? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

cactuscatcher · 11-25-2005, 08:49 PM

Ok, newb here. Here is my project, it was an 04 Rubicon until it went back rolling and sideward a half dozen times. Much new sheetmetal and parts later it came to this point:

Installed a new 1 3/4" .120 cage that mounts the seats, harness's, and ties through the front firewall to the tube fender plates and to the frame at 4 points here:

Then I went to work stretching the rear and cut the rear frame off after reading PT's thread many times.

In went a 9" full width rear with a TrueHi9 HP center section with a Detroit, 5.38s, and Moser 40 spline axles. After cycling the suspension a few dozen times the Bighorn 15" airshocks were moved up to cage mounts through the body and I started working the 78 F250 D44 HP HD axle, it is full width w/33 spline Dutchman alloys, Detroit, and all new Chevy outers used 1.5" DOM to mount the 15" Bighorn coilovers.

After reading the board for several days I built the front truss for the upper 4 link mounts and set the 2" .50 wall links at 40" for the lowers which made the WB 106".

I am really not sure if I should move the front forward another 2" and aim for 108" on the 40" MTRs now?
Should I stay or should I extend the frame up front? I have been thinking that the 40s may be too short for the WB but the backroll thing is still haunting me?

What do you guys think?

Bushwhacker · 11-25-2005, 09:32 PM

I think those are the ugliest Red X's I've ever seen.

You cant link to Webshots.

cactuscatcher · 11-25-2005, 10:05 PM

sorry- they work for me both home and at work... what service works here?

WheelingCJ5 · 11-26-2005, 03:30 AM

I hear red star works pretty well, but I know I can't talk because I don't have one yet. Either get someone to post em or use photobucket or the like.

SAvageSun4x4 · 11-26-2005, 03:55 PM

Who is doing all of your work, I didn't know you were that far along...

cactuscatcher · 11-27-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAvageSun4x4

Who is doing all of your work, I didn't know you were that far along...

Don- I do 100% of my own work.

SPEEDCRAVIN · 11-27-2005, 12:14 PM

Posat a link for pics. I wont to see what your doing and how. I may be doing something simillar soon on a TJ.

JOSH

SAvageSun4x4 · 11-27-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactuscatcher

Don- I do 100% of my own work.

I should have figured...hope to see the rig sometime

chris demartini · 11-27-2005, 01:08 PM

Moving the front 2" can only help you, if you have the room for it (steering clearance). Looks good, I like it

any info on bighorn coilovers? I've never heard of them

cactuscatcher · 11-27-2005, 02:53 PM

Speed- this should work until Lance gets my redstar payment.
http://community.webshots.com/album/511485147lPwrjd

Chris- I started using them basically on a whim. I had really bad luck with King airshocks and went to the BigHorn airshocks and liked them alot more. Have not wheeled the Bighorn Co's yet so don't have much to say. I bought them from Tod at Desert Fab:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archi.../t-383192.html

11-25-2005, 08:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
cactuscatcher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51859 Location: AZ Posts: 28	Stretch the front or not? Ok, newb here. Here is my project, it was an 04 Rubicon until it went back rolling and sideward a half dozen times. Much new sheetmetal and parts later it came to this point: Installed a new 1 3/4" .120 cage that mounts the seats, harness's, and ties through the front firewall to the tube fender plates and to the frame at 4 points here: Then I went to work stretching the rear and cut the rear frame off after reading PT's thread many times. In went a 9" full width rear with a TrueHi9 HP center section with a Detroit, 5.38s, and Moser 40 spline axles. After cycling the suspension a few dozen times the Bighorn 15" airshocks were moved up to cage mounts through the body and I started working the 78 F250 D44 HP HD axle, it is full width w/33 spline Dutchman alloys, Detroit, and all new Chevy outers used 1.5" DOM to mount the 15" Bighorn coilovers. After reading the board for several days I built the front truss for the upper 4 link mounts and set the 2" .50 wall links at 40" for the lowers which made the WB 106". I am really not sure if I should move the front forward another 2" and aim for 108" on the 40" MTRs now? Should I stay or should I extend the frame up front? I have been thinking that the 40s may be too short for the WB but the backroll thing is still haunting me? What do you guys think?

11-25-2005, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bushwhacker Rock God Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9138 Location: Godfrey, IL Posts: 2,488	I think those are the ugliest Red X's I've ever seen. You cant link to Webshots. __________________ WEROCK Judge RROCK Legends Competitor 97 TJ buggy,4.0,727,Atlas,D60,14B Facebook myspace

11-25-2005, 10:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
cactuscatcher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51859 Location: AZ Posts: 28	sorry- they work for me both home and at work... what service works here? __________________ Building and building...

11-26-2005, 03:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
WheelingCJ5 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36755 Location: Lafayette, CA Posts: 54	I hear red star works pretty well, but I know I can't talk because I don't have one yet. Either get someone to post em or use photobucket or the like. __________________ 61 CJ5 - build in progress.

11-26-2005, 03:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
SAvageSun4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44584 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 49	Who is doing all of your work, I didn't know you were that far along... __________________ Don Scottsdale, AZ [url][COLOR="Lime"]www.savagesun4x4.com[/COLOR][/url]

11-27-2005, 12:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
SPEEDCRAVIN Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 30432 Location: Dallas Texas Again! Posts: 1,640	Posat a link for pics. I wont to see what your doing and how. I may be doing something simillar soon on a TJ. JOSH __________________ SHOP AND APPARTMENT FOR SALE [url]http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589523[/url]

11-27-2005, 01:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
chris demartini Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1636 Location: 201 NJ Posts: 5,737	Moving the front 2" can only help you, if you have the room for it (steering clearance). Looks good, I like it any info on bighorn coilovers? I've never heard of them

11-27-2005, 02:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
cactuscatcher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51859 Location: AZ Posts: 28	Speed- this should work until Lance gets my redstar payment. http://community.webshots.com/album/511485147lPwrjd Chris- I started using them basically on a whim. I had really bad luck with King airshocks and went to the BigHorn airshocks and liked them alot more. Have not wheeled the Bighorn Co's yet so don't have much to say. I bought them from Tod at Desert Fab: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archi.../t-383192.html __________________ Building and building...

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