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TJDale · 12-19-2005, 04:54 PM

I was looking at a Ford rear d60 today. I need one to go with a Chevy front 60. The rear I looked at measured about 64" WMS to WMS. Is this the right measurment for a Ford rear. My buddy has some GM 14 bolts that measure about 67". The Chevy front 60 is more like 69.5" right? I'm fine with the front being a couple inches wider. But is the Ford 60 just that much shorter or should I keep looking for another one?

Schmozilla · 12-19-2005, 05:23 PM

Dale... my Ford 60 is 66 inches WMS to WMS...

REDDMANIAC · 12-19-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TJDale

I was looking at a Ford rear d60 today. I need one to go with a Chevy front 60. The rear I looked at measured about 64" WMS to WMS. Is this the right measurment for a Ford rear. My buddy has some GM 14 bolts that measure about 67". The Chevy front 60 is more like 69.5" right? I'm fine with the front being a couple inches wider. But is the Ford 60 just that much shorter or should I keep looking for another one?

If your interested Ive got a empty D61 rear thats 67in, and D70 sized spindles came stock. No shafts, except the long side 30 spline.
$155 shipped forward air.

TJDale · 12-19-2005, 06:18 PM

I'm talking about the rear here. Schmo your rear is 67"?

FlexCJ5 · 12-19-2005, 06:19 PM

Lots of different widths out there. Keep lookin. Try the dana60 bible on the pirate home page i think there's a list there somewhere.

TJDale · 12-19-2005, 06:56 PM

Brad, you don't know were one is do you? How about a Chevy front?

BlueAngel · 12-19-2005, 07:30 PM

The rear 60 in my jeep is from a 78 f250, wms-wms is 65.75".

Schmozilla · 12-19-2005, 08:56 PM

dale thats the axle that I have.... 65.75" wms-wms. with my wheel BS 5 in the front 3.5 in the rear im .25 inches wider in the front...

TJDale · 12-20-2005, 05:56 AM

Mix matched wheels Schmo? That makes it harder to rotate. I'll keep looking for the right rear, 65.75". Thanks.

JohnnyJ · 12-20-2005, 07:22 AM

That's about the same width as a D60 from a old body style Dodge pick-up.

My 1974 Dodge W200 rear (BOM 603236) was about 65.5" wide before we hacked it up. It's housing is marked HD and has some extra ribs compared to a normal d60; if we wouldn't have had a normal D60 sitting next to it, we probably wouldn't have noticed. Searching on here showed it was used from 71.5-75.

Searching on car-part.com showed it is an interchange from 72-88; although I can't say that 76-88 are HDs, only that they will interchange.

Schmozilla · 12-20-2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TJDale

Mix matched wheels Schmo? That makes it harder to rotate. I'll keep looking for the right rear, 65.75". Thanks.

yeah mixed matched wheels.... oh well, at least it wont look goofy.

bspencer · 12-20-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmozilla

yeah mixed matched wheels.... oh well, at least it wont look goofy.

but the wider the front is than the rear the better it turns

Dookey · 12-20-2005, 09:25 AM

Kicking yourself Dale for not going full widths the first time?

TJDale · 12-20-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MVdSlUT

Kicking yourself Dale for not going full widths the first time?

Not at all. I bought this Jeep with 4.88s a lock right and Super35 w/ detroit. I sold the thuper thirty five and put in the 8.8 with detroit. I rode hard all year with no problems. I was happy with the d30. But now I'm ready to step it up a little.

rockr · 12-20-2005, 04:03 PM

the front axle wants to be about 2" wider than the rear............just what i have found to be designed by the engineers

i have a matched set 44/60 out of a 78 3/4 ford. the front measures 68" and the rear 66".

Cochese · 12-20-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ

That's about the same width as a D60 from a old body style Dodge pick-up.

My 1974 Dodge W200 rear (BOM 603236) was about 65.5" wide before we hacked it up. It's housing is marked HD and has some extra ribs compared to a normal d60; if we wouldn't have had a normal D60 sitting next to it, we probably wouldn't have noticed. Searching on here showed it was used from 71.5-75.

Searching on car-part.com showed it is an interchange from 72-88; although I can't say that 76-88 are HDs, only that they will interchange.

I too have a D60 HD. It is from a late 70's Ford F-250 2WD CREW CAB.
Extra ribs and the width is 66" although it still has factory 30-spline shafts.

Jkrause · 12-21-2005, 07:13 AM

My FORD rear D60 axle measures 63" WMS to WMS.....

bspencer · 12-21-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jkrause

My FORD rear D60 axle measures 63" WMS to WMS.....

what year?......cause im looking for a rear 60 or 14b in about that length

Jkrause · 12-21-2005, 11:47 AM

603196-4 is the BOM....... If memory serves me right I think its from a 72 Ford P/U

Anyone good with the BOM look up... I did convert from 16 splines to 35 and got rid of the Drums (went to Chebby discs)

JohnnyJ · 12-21-2005, 07:29 PM

from dana link

603196 = 1971-72 F-250 3/4 Ton HD 4x2 Pick-up - Full-Float

lots more info there, wouldn't format nicely. the -4 was for 4.10 posi-lock.

Shupee · 12-22-2005, 06:48 PM

Dale,
I think I might have one. I'll look and measure and e-mail you but might be after X-mas. I thought you already had a 60 frt???? The best way to go is cowboy up and buy a legit military take-out. Although a little more pricey they are usually a LOT NICER than civilian stuff I've seen.

Shupee · 12-22-2005, 06:55 PM

on second thought I wouldn't even run a rear 60 and go through the hassle of drilling spindles etc etc. There is what I think is a better choice That is strong(redneck tested) better clearance and it already has 1.5" 33 spline semi float axles. It's getting tough to find the right 60 rr that has the correct bearing to dictate enough material to drill and run the 1.5" shafts. PM me if interested it's super top secret info

TJDale · 12-23-2005, 06:14 AM

I may have a line on a d70. I believe it is a duelly rear though. Are duelly rears the same or narrow or wider?

Shupee · 12-23-2005, 06:44 PM

OK I'll confess. I've been running the smaller 9.5" 14 bolt- not the tater plow 10.5" 14 bolt. You can lay a 44 gasket on the back and you only loose an inch or so over the 44. they're lighter than the 60 and trust me they are BOMB PROOF. We've tortured mine with 37" red labels and have yet to break one. You don't really need a full float axle in a 4K Jeep!!!! Unless you're going to run 39" + tires. Ride up next week sometime or go to my website where they're pics of the Jeep. I've used/sold all mine but my buddy has some for reasonable $$$

chris demartini · 12-23-2005, 09:53 PM

Yep the baby 14 bolt is a great axle. You can get full case detroits, lock rights, ARB's or spools for them. They also came from the factory 6 lug with rear disks.

12-19-2005, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
TJDale Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41176 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 555	d60 WMS to WMS? I was looking at a Ford rear d60 today. I need one to go with a Chevy front 60. The rear I looked at measured about 64" WMS to WMS. Is this the right measurment for a Ford rear. My buddy has some GM 14 bolts that measure about 67". The Chevy front 60 is more like 69.5" right? I'm fine with the front being a couple inches wider. But is the Ford 60 just that much shorter or should I keep looking for another one? __________________ TJ

12-19-2005, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
TJDale Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41176 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 555	I'm talking about the rear here. Schmo your rear is 67"? __________________ TJ

12-19-2005, 06:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
TJDale Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41176 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 555	Brad, you don't know were one is do you? How about a Chevy front? __________________ TJ

12-19-2005, 07:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
BlueAngel Bending light Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24300 Location: Ontario, CANADA Posts: 1,212	The rear 60 in my jeep is from a 78 f250, wms-wms is 65.75". __________________ Project - Destroyer

12-20-2005, 05:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
TJDale Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41176 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 555	Mix matched wheels Schmo? That makes it harder to rotate. I'll keep looking for the right rear, 65.75". Thanks. __________________ TJ

12-19-2005, 05:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Schmozilla Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38562 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 1,935	Dale... my Ford 60 is 66 inches WMS to WMS...

12-19-2005, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Schmozilla Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38562 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 1,935	dale thats the axle that I have.... 65.75" wms-wms. with my wheel BS 5 in the front 3.5 in the rear im .25 inches wider in the front...

12-20-2005, 07:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
JohnnyJ Low Range Drifter Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7903 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 2,728	That's about the same width as a D60 from a old body style Dodge pick-up. My 1974 Dodge W200 rear (BOM 603236) was about 65.5" wide before we hacked it up. It's housing is marked HD and has some extra ribs compared to a normal d60; if we wouldn't have had a normal D60 sitting next to it, we probably wouldn't have noticed. Searching on here showed it was used from 71.5-75. Searching on car-part.com showed it is an interchange from 72-88; although I can't say that 76-88 are HDs, only that they will interchange. __________________ DEAK Racing #715 TREC B / Ultra 4 Mod Class Rig Thanks to Drivetrain Specialists and PAC Racing Springs for your support

12-20-2005, 09:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dookey GM at TWF Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23680 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 7,262 Blog Entries: 1	Kicking yourself Dale for not going full widths the first time?

12-20-2005, 04:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
rockr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8665 Location: tucson Posts: 1,414	the front axle wants to be about 2" wider than the rear............just what i have found to be designed by the engineers i have a matched set 44/60 out of a 78 3/4 ford. the front measures 68" and the rear 66".

12-21-2005, 07:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jkrause Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38620 Posts: 413	My FORD rear D60 axle measures 63" WMS to WMS.....

12-21-2005, 11:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
Jkrause Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38620 Posts: 413	603196-4 is the BOM....... If memory serves me right I think its from a 72 Ford P/U Anyone good with the BOM look up... I did convert from 16 splines to 35 and got rid of the Drums (went to Chebby discs)

12-21-2005, 07:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
JohnnyJ Low Range Drifter Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7903 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 2,728	from dana link 603196 = 1971-72 F-250 3/4 Ton HD 4x2 Pick-up - Full-Float lots more info there, wouldn't format nicely. the -4 was for 4.10 posi-lock. __________________ DEAK Racing #715 TREC B / Ultra 4 Mod Class Rig Thanks to Drivetrain Specialists and PAC Racing Springs for your support

12-22-2005, 06:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
Shupee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13197 Posts: 243	Dale, I think I might have one. I'll look and measure and e-mail you but might be after X-mas. I thought you already had a 60 frt???? The best way to go is cowboy up and buy a legit military take-out. Although a little more pricey they are usually a LOT NICER than civilian stuff I've seen.

12-22-2005, 06:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
Shupee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13197 Posts: 243	on second thought I wouldn't even run a rear 60 and go through the hassle of drilling spindles etc etc. There is what I think is a better choice That is strong(redneck tested) better clearance and it already has 1.5" 33 spline semi float axles. It's getting tough to find the right 60 rr that has the correct bearing to dictate enough material to drill and run the 1.5" shafts. PM me if interested it's super top secret info

12-23-2005, 06:14 AM	#23 (permalink)
TJDale Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41176 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 555	I may have a line on a d70. I believe it is a duelly rear though. Are duelly rears the same or narrow or wider? __________________ TJ Last edited by TJDale; 12-23-2005 at 06:27 AM.

12-23-2005, 06:44 PM	#24 (permalink)
Shupee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13197 Posts: 243	OK I'll confess. I've been running the smaller 9.5" 14 bolt- not the tater plow 10.5" 14 bolt. You can lay a 44 gasket on the back and you only loose an inch or so over the 44. they're lighter than the 60 and trust me they are BOMB PROOF. We've tortured mine with 37" red labels and have yet to break one. You don't really need a full float axle in a 4K Jeep!!!! Unless you're going to run 39" + tires. Ride up next week sometime or go to my website where they're pics of the Jeep. I've used/sold all mine but my buddy has some for reasonable $$$

12-23-2005, 09:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
chris demartini Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1636 Location: 201 NJ Posts: 5,709	Yep the baby 14 bolt is a great axle. You can get full case detroits, lock rights, ARB's or spools for them. They also came from the factory 6 lug with rear disks. __________________ [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-stuff-sale/1192938.html[/url]

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