My tj cage build thread - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

TotalImmortal · 02-04-2006, 08:44 PM

Figured some of you guys here might be intrested

progress after day one

Brink_ · 02-04-2006, 09:16 PM

Looking good. How was it going through the dash? Big deal? Lots of shit in the way? Or just a quick holesaw and slide it down with the top off?

TotalImmortal · 02-04-2006, 09:24 PM

easiest vehicle to go thru the dash i have dealt with yet. unbolt the dash, pull it out, do your cage work, then when its time to bolt the dash back up find where its going to interfere and use a 1.750 barrel sander to notch the dash. it will contact the AC vent but its flexible enough that it deforms around the tube

Brink_ · 02-04-2006, 09:41 PM

Any chance of a few more pics of it? Specifically the dash work.

TotalImmortal · 02-04-2006, 09:48 PM

i havent notched the dash on my jeep yet. i'll post pics after i notch it. (probably tomorrow)

desertsport · 02-04-2006, 10:33 PM

looks very clean, But dont you think there should be a little more room between the hole in the tub and the tub going through it to allow for flex. more pics and details would be great.

TotalImmortal · 02-04-2006, 10:38 PM

its going to be plated to the tub=no flex.
plates like the ones pictured below will be made

Haole · 02-04-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalImmortal

easiest vehicle to go thru the dash i have dealt with yet. unbolt the dash, pull it out, do your cage work, then when its time to bolt the dash back up find where its going to interfere and use a 1.750 barrel sander to notch the dash. it will contact the AC vent but its flexible enough that it deforms around the tube

Hell, it can be done without pulling the dash. There's a staright shot down the passenger side and a couple of relays that need to be moved on the driver's side.

Brink_ · 02-04-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Haole

Hell, it can be done without pulling the dash. There's a staright shot down the passenger side and a couple of relays that need to be moved on the driver's side.

Just holesaw through from above then?

BlueAngel · 02-05-2006, 06:09 AM

That front windshield bar seems to be very close to the hardtop latches, can you still open these latches?

madmonk · 02-05-2006, 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=TotalImmortal]its going to be plated to the tub=no flex.
the cage in my cj is tied into the frame in 6 places and it moves inside the tub when the jeeps flexed out. the frame is still going to flex , IMO the plate will eventually rip the tub. your cage looks good and tight fitting but I would leave some room for it to move a little.

TotalImmortal · 02-05-2006, 07:53 AM

frame/tub flex= bad. when you eliminate this(through a cage) your suspension handles much better.

rip the tub? lol it wont. there is a lot less flexing around on a jeep tub than a ranger and we havent had any problems with with plate ripping off this truck we built

TotalImmortal · 02-05-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueAngel

That front windshield bar seems to be very close to the hardtop latches, can you still open these latches?

cmon blueangel...have faith

of course we can still open the latches......barely

beartj · 02-05-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brink_

Just holesaw through from above then?

Yup, super simple. Pull the vents and speakers and you'll see. All I had to relocate was the diagnostic port on the d/s and cut/bend a thin sheetmetal flap on the p/s. You can get flex ducting at any NAPA to reroute the venting but I haven't yet and probably won't.

Here's some pics that show where we put mine through* but it's pretty easy to figure it out once you get the vents pulled.

*I'm only posting these pics to help. It's not complete and I know it needs gusseting, etc. all that will be done when we finish the rear. By posting these pics, I am NOT asking for opinions on how well built it is/isn't.

TotalImmortal · 02-07-2006, 07:07 PM

udates for today. only worked on it for 4 hours (damn college taking away me wrenching time!!

)

-notch dash

-a pillar frame tie in

-weld random crap

TotalImmortal · 02-10-2006, 09:38 AM

heres progress from yesterday

Cue-Ball · 02-10-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TotalImmortal

udates for today. only worked on it for 4 hours (damn college taking away me wrenching time!!

I am curious about this pic. Are you making the front bars and A pillar Separate from the rear and welding them together??

TotalImmortal · 02-10-2006, 09:48 AM

aka a splice....yes. tube is sleeved with 1.5 and rosetted.

Cue-Ball · 02-10-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TotalImmortal

aka a splice....yes. tube is sleeved with 1.5 and rosetted.

Ahhh, ok, any reason you didn't bend it out of one piece?

TotalImmortal · 02-10-2006, 09:57 AM

hmm...didnt feel like spending the time to figure out 4 bends for one tube and potentially having to scrap metal if i screwed up

. (im cheap and ona budget) its not weak if done correctly

Cue-Ball · 02-10-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TotalImmortal

hmm...didnt feel like spending the time to figure out 4 bends for one tube and potentially having to scrap metal if i screwed up

. (im cheap and ona budget) its not weak if done correctly

Point taken. I am just anal retentive about that shit. But then again, it's not my jeep. Carry on.

TotalImmortal · 02-10-2006, 06:08 PM

almost done

02-04-2006, 08:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	My tj cage build thread Figured some of you guys here might be intrested progress after day one __________________ Brice

02-04-2006, 09:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	easiest vehicle to go thru the dash i have dealt with yet. unbolt the dash, pull it out, do your cage work, then when its time to bolt the dash back up find where its going to interfere and use a 1.750 barrel sander to notch the dash. it will contact the AC vent but its flexible enough that it deforms around the tube __________________ Brice

02-04-2006, 09:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	i havent notched the dash on my jeep yet. i'll post pics after i notch it. (probably tomorrow) __________________ Brice

02-04-2006, 10:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
desertsport Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 39627 Location: Pirate4x4 Posts: 505	looks very clean, But dont you think there should be a little more room between the hole in the tub and the tub going through it to allow for flex. more pics and details would be great. __________________ 35 MTR'S, ALLOY SHAFTS, ARB FRONT AND REAR,4.56

02-04-2006, 10:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	its going to be plated to the tub=no flex. plates like the ones pictured below will be made __________________ Brice Last edited by TotalImmortal; 02-04-2006 at 10:39 PM.

02-04-2006, 09:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brink_ Life on the Darkside Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63901 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,666	Looking good. How was it going through the dash? Big deal? Lots of shit in the way? Or just a quick holesaw and slide it down with the top off?

02-04-2006, 09:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Brink_ Life on the Darkside Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63901 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,666	Any chance of a few more pics of it? Specifically the dash work.

02-05-2006, 06:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
BlueAngel Bending light Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24300 Location: Ontario, CANADA Posts: 1,212	That front windshield bar seems to be very close to the hardtop latches, can you still open these latches? __________________ Project - Destroyer

02-05-2006, 07:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
madmonk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37684 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 81	[QUOTE=TotalImmortal]its going to be plated to the tub=no flex. the cage in my cj is tied into the frame in 6 places and it moves inside the tub when the jeeps flexed out. the frame is still going to flex , IMO the plate will eventually rip the tub. your cage looks good and tight fitting but I would leave some room for it to move a little. Last edited by madmonk; 02-05-2006 at 07:30 AM.

02-05-2006, 07:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	frame/tub flex= bad. when you eliminate this(through a cage) your suspension handles much better. rip the tub? lol it wont. there is a lot less flexing around on a jeep tub than a ranger and we havent had any problems with with plate ripping off this truck we built __________________ Brice

02-07-2006, 07:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	udates for today. only worked on it for 4 hours (damn college taking away me wrenching time!! ) -notch dash -a pillar frame tie in -weld random crap __________________ Brice

02-10-2006, 09:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	heres progress from yesterday __________________ Brice

02-10-2006, 09:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	aka a splice....yes. tube is sleeved with 1.5 and rosetted. __________________ Brice

02-10-2006, 09:57 AM	#20 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	hmm...didnt feel like spending the time to figure out 4 bends for one tube and potentially having to scrap metal if i screwed up . (im cheap and ona budget) its not weak if done correctly __________________ Brice

02-10-2006, 06:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
TotalImmortal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47179 Location: el cajon, california Posts: 829	almost done __________________ Brice

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