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Old 11-08-2006, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need to get some new shafts to upgrade my rear Dana 44 in my CJ-5. It has the passenger offset diff, so I need to order custom shafts as nobody has them in stock. One vendor can get me some Dutchman 30 spline flanged 1541 shafts for $440 with bearings and all, which is generally a little steep, but they aren't commonly stocked axles. I'm wondering, are Dutchman axles good, or are Alloy USA better? I've heard mixed results recently on Yukon. I haven't contacted Yukon or Alloy yet, though. Anyone have any suggestions, are the Dutchman just as good as Yukon and Alloy? I don't want to wait for Superior. Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would not buy Dutchman nor recommend them to anyone. A friend of mine bought a set of custom 30 spline axles for an International D60 rear. We put them in and took it out to a ride and on the first obstacle twisted the splines on one side and the other side broke off right at the mounting flange so clean that you would never know it had an axle attached. All of this also took out the Detroit. Dutchman would not warranty there axles at all. They said it was because we had them in a rig with 42's on it. Keep in mind that the stock axles lasted two years on this same setup.

I would not consider Dutchman at all.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have dutchmans in my rear 35spl. 60, no problems at all, they've held up great.
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I've never ran 30 spline axles but I've had great service from Dutchman! I had 35 spline Dutchman's in my old EB 9" with a Detroit and 39.5 Iroks and I now have them in a rear HP D60 with a Detroit with 42" TSL's and approx 380 HP. I just got back from flogging it through the Hammers and they held up great! I'd recommend them
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I have had great luck with dutchmans as well. I have 3 of their shafts in my rig and no issue with any of them. Price is usually right on as well. Cheaper then Moser atleast
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Need to get some new shafts to upgrade my rear Dana 44 in my CJ-5. It has the passenger offset diff, so I need to order custom shafts as nobody has them in stock. One vendor can get me some Dutchman 30 spline flanged 1541 shafts for $440 with bearings and all, which is generally a little steep, but they aren't commonly stocked axles. I'm wondering, are Dutchman axles good, or are Alloy USA better? I've heard mixed results recently on Yukon. I haven't contacted Yukon or Alloy yet, though. Anyone have any suggestions, are the Dutchman just as good as Yukon and Alloy? I don't want to wait for Superior. Thanks.
Why dont you ask this guy.
/forum/jeep-hardcore-tech/522904-shafts-d44.html
He already posted the same question for you. He should be a great help.
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Thanks guys. It sounds like most people are happy with their Dutchmans, except the first dude. I'm only running 33's, 1.25" wheel spacers, and the Dana 44 is obviously not full float, so I need to run 1541 shafts instead of 4340, so hopefully these shafts hold up okay for me. I figure they should be better than the 19 spline two-piece stock shafts, right? Maybe I'll just check with Dutchman on their warranty and see what they say and go from there. It would be nice to have a product with a warranty. Also, they are only about 2 hours from me, so that kinda helps in the bitch-fest should one arise in the future. Anyone else, please still pipe in with your advice, too. Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I ordered custom 6 lug shafts for an XJ 44.
I ordered from Dutchman because they were the most helpfull when taking my measurements. The fabricator actualy called the day he was putting them together to verify specifics.

I guess I'm more about customer service when I'm spending excess money.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I was in your shoes a few years ago. I had a 30 spline offset D44 rear. When I found out that only custom shafts were available for it, I decided to upgrade to a 60 rear with 9" ends & dutchman 35 spline shafts.

If you have a 19 spline carrier, you will have to change that out to go to 30 spline. If you have to change out the carrier, I would upgrade to 35 spline axles. The shafts would be similar in cost, and would be nearly indestructable with 33" tires.

When I put the 60 in, I figured I could recoup some funds by selling the 30 spline axle shafts out of my 44. I had them sold on here for a nice price. When I took them out to ship, the splines were twisted. At the time, my CJ5 had 35" tires. I am glad I spent a little extra & went with the added beef.
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please still pipe in with your advice, too. Thanks.
My best advise to you is don't build your axle to meet your current tire size and need. Your 33's will be replaced by 35's then 37's etc. Build it once and build it right. A nice set up for your Jeep would be a Ford 9", Strange Nodular Housing, Detroit w/35 spline axles. This set up would allow you to build your Jeep up and give you years of trouble free service It may be more $$$ now but a lot cheaper in the long run
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I know what you are saying, and I'm trying to not build it for 33's, I would like to know I will be more than safe with 35's, since I see that as my next logical step. I say this because after 35's, I would save cash and do SOA, X-Over steering, and I would run 60 front and 60/70/14b/10.5Sterling rear axle, whatever I found, stretch the wheel base, and then run the appropriate tire for the lift and axles after it is all built, which would be in the 38-42" range. So, right now 35's is all the bigger I will go with these axles, that's a guarantee. So I now have a couple questions, is a 33 or 35 spline shaft larger in diameter than a 30 spline shaft, cuz if not, I'll run the highest spline count I can since I need to get a new spool for the whole encounter anyway, and is a 30, 33, or 35 spline flanged, semi-floater, 1541H shaft gonna hold up well enough. I wanted to get the warn full floater kit and run 4340, but they discontinued it, so I'm stuck with a semi-
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