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Old 07-01-2007, 12:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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cut the frame in the middle and strech it there... do a little body work and you end up with more leg room/storage
but he'll still have the same departure angle in the rear.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:43 PM   #27 (permalink)
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here is my build thread. Got more pics to post up from this weekend but with my configuration, I would be able to put my wheelbase between 105 and 108 if i choose. Will probably be around 106.


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Thanks for the link. I may end up go the same route with the tank, but I really wanted to push the rear axle back farther.

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but he'll still have the same departure angle in the rear.

departure angle isnt the only reason to strech a wheelbase.... honestly i dont thing rear departure angle is even a great reason to do it. stability , and drive shaft angle would be 2 better reasons in my book and strechign it in the middle would help with both of those....
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The MAIN reason I really want to keep a tank out of the passenger compartment is the contents ,namely Gasoline, and the risk of flaming gasoline in my space with a relatively minor accident, roll, etc.

The space issue is secondary for me.
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The MAIN reason I really want to keep a tank out of the passenger compartment is the contents ,namely Gasoline, and the risk of flaming gasoline in my space with a relatively minor accident, roll, etc.

The space issue is secondary for me.

but why the strech
A. cause all the cool guys are doing it
b. departure angle
c. stability.
d all of the above

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but why the strech
A. cause all the cool guys are doing it
b. departure angle
c. stability.
d all of the above

IM going with answer A
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:36 AM   #33 (permalink)
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If you get creative, you can move this tank back another 2-3 inches. I contemplated it but already had my lower links built and didnt see the use of doing it.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Quote: Never Monday said, "If ya'll are going back 6+" why not build a tank to go forward of the axle?"



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that actually sounds like a good idea
What do you think would happen to that gas tank if your drive shaft let go and went smashing through it.

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Old 07-02-2007, 01:32 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Quote: Never Monday said, "If ya'll are going back 6+" why not build a tank to go forward of the axle?"





What do you think would happen to that gas tank if your drive shaft let go and went smashing through it.
But the new JK/TK's have them (gas tanks infront of the axle and the muffler behind the axle now.

So how come they can get away with it? Hell 99% of the trucks out there today have gas tanks inches away from the drive shafts.
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What do you think would happen to that gas tank if your drive shaft let go and went smashing through it.
If you tank was steel or plastic it would bounce off.
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The MAIN reason I really want to keep a tank out of the passenger compartment is the contents ,namely Gasoline, and the risk of flaming gasoline in my space with a relatively minor accident, roll, etc.

The space issue is secondary for me.

i completely understand your reasoning for wanting to move the tank. gasoline running everywhere during a rollover has to be one of the worst feelings ever. HOWEVER, you can much more easily combine rollover valves or just build something around your tank to protect gasoline spillage during a rollover, than it would be to squeeze a tank somewhere that it doesnt really fit.
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Quote: Never Monday said, "If ya'll are going back 6+" why not build a tank to go forward of the axle?"





What do you think would happen to that gas tank if your drive shaft let go and went smashing through it.
obviously, and the upper control arms would probably hit as well. I meant a small, longer, flat tank underneath the floorboards on the drivers side.
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i completely understand your reasoning for wanting to move the tank. gasoline running everywhere during a rollover has to be one of the worst feelings ever. HOWEVER, you can much more easily combine rollover valves or just build something around your tank to protect gasoline spillage during a rollover, than it would be to squeeze a tank somewhere that it doesnt really fit.
Since I plan to drive it around town, I don't want a minor rear-end accident to involve a tank in the passender compartment.
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The Toyota guys all have their gas tanks on the drivers side inside the frame rail. To get around it when linking the rear, many of them use one lower arm on the drivers side, an upper and lower arm on the pass side, and track bar. The same thing could apply to Jeep if you were looking for a safe place for the tank.

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The Toyota guys all have their gas tanks on the drivers side inside the frame rail. To get around it when linking the rear, many of them use one lower arm on the drivers side, an upper and lower arm on the pass side, and track bar. The same thing could apply to Jeep if you were looking for a safe place for the tank.
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cut the frame in the middle and strech it there... do a little body work and you end up with more leg room/storage
This^^^. Sounds like you need a tj-6 style build. Stretch frame and tub 15" and use a LJ roof.
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