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camo · 07-16-2008, 12:52 PM

A GF of mine is taking her 2004 TJ rubicon on the jeepers jambo and she was asking me about steering upgrades and I told her the factory linkage is the weak link and to get the currie HD replacement unnit.

But what about a steering box brace . is that an issue on this year ?

camo

FordFascist · 07-16-2008, 01:12 PM

I haven't seen too many of them breaking steering boxes when I'm out. Mainly that stupid POS inverted-Y linkage they came stock with. Usually the biggest problem you'll see with a rig that's locked up front with a standard Saginaw box is boiling the fluid in the PS pump. Slap a cooler in the return line and she should be golden although ram assist is always nice.

The '04 Rubicon should be OK on its namesake trail without a 'box brace assuming this thing isn't running 44's or something.

Joel77 · 07-16-2008, 01:14 PM

Depending on size of tires she might need cromo outers for her front axle. If she has 35's she'll need them. The OEM 27 spline outer axle shafts and 35's don't mix very well.

camo · 07-16-2008, 01:18 PM

ya she is running 35"

Joel77 · 07-16-2008, 01:29 PM

alloy usa outers with currie steering and call it good.

camo · 07-16-2008, 04:09 PM

is the rubicon express HD tie rod worthy ?

UCTJ · 07-16-2008, 04:15 PM

Ya know Camo I have a Big Daddy steering link and its beef, but really if Id have had the extra money at the time I would have rather gotten Curries steering system, its beefy and address all of the weaker links of the OEM though it still keeps Jeeps OE design (it may not be the best design the OEM one but). I think the only real downside Ive heard about the Currie is that you have to buy their tie rod ends...maybe someone else can confirm or deny.

As far as the steering box brace I bought one from M.O.R.E. for mine did I really need it, has this been a major issue with the TJs etc dont truly know but it wasnt much money and I figured better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it...as in being on the trail with a fawked up steering box and frame rail.

kirbyiv · 07-16-2008, 04:16 PM

no, it is only .120 wall chromo but still very weak, and also uses stock TRE's. Get the currie setup, it is the best bang for the buck steering on a dana 30 without building it yourself

edit: meant to quote camo -

Quote:

Originally Posted by camo

is the rubicon express HD tie rod worthy ?

Sccafire · 07-16-2008, 04:34 PM

The tie rod ends are included with the Currie set-up

dumblucky · 07-16-2008, 05:10 PM

drill out the steering arm holes put some heims on , do the same with the pitman arm --1.5" DOM, and have a nice day ...........this is way to hard core for me ................im goin back to JU

fukin tard.....

camo · 07-17-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumblucky

......im goin back to JU

fukin tard.....

allow me to show you the door out

camo · 07-17-2008, 10:52 AM

FYI... we run the currie tie rod and drag link setup on our 2x winning Baja 1000 jeepspeed and have smashed it plenty hard and never damaged it. conversely we wasted a stock JK tie rod on the rubicon by barely bumping into a rock.

anyhow...she went and picked up the RE against my recommendation...so we shall see how it holds up

Blitzkrieg · 07-17-2008, 11:04 AM

Only other issue that I can remember about the Currie setup was the front end droop. There is the chance that the TRE at the pitman arm can pop out of the socket if you over extend it.

crusty1007 · 07-17-2008, 12:34 PM

whats the story with the wj knuckle? i heard its the way to go?

Blitzkrieg · 07-17-2008, 12:57 PM

It isn't a completely bolt on situation. You need to move the axle mount for the track bar in order to maintain correct geometery with the steering.

crusty1007 · 07-17-2008, 01:43 PM

Is there any thorough write ups on the install? the ball joints are driving me nuts in this kit currently on the Jp.

geberhard · 07-17-2008, 01:54 PM

Camo the stock thin walled drag link is the main problem, the tie rod is solid so should habdle ok. If on a budget, use the Big daddy offroad, and have a pair of spare stock tie rods. Teh Big Daddy costs $120 compared to $500 plus for the currie setup and should be able to handle the 35's.

Again, if $$ is not an issue definitely go Currie currectlink.

I am actually selling the big daddy offreoad setup that i bough nad never isntaleld on my woife's rig. Pm me if interested, we can probably work outa membership deal

and I can ship it your way.

JohnnyJ · 07-17-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crusty1007

whats the story with the wj knuckle? i heard its the way to go?

this is from a YJ, but add in a moving your trackbar mount up and it all carries over:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...221&highlight=

Blitzkrieg · 07-17-2008, 02:30 PM

I did the whole set up on my TJ

Its fun getting the track bar and the TRE to line up. Moving the spring back makes things a little easier

Knuckelhead · 07-17-2008, 04:04 PM

WJ conversion...

Redmist · 07-17-2008, 07:29 PM

After the factory Y link, the sector shaft is the weak link on the ZF box...

07-16-2008, 12:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
camo No comment Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 4 Location: Rubicon Posts: 27,068 Blog Entries: 1	2004 TJ question A GF of mine is taking her 2004 TJ rubicon on the jeepers jambo and she was asking me about steering upgrades and I told her the factory linkage is the weak link and to get the currie HD replacement unnit. But what about a steering box brace . is that an issue on this year ? camo

07-16-2008, 01:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Joel77 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 31158 Posts: 860 Blog Entries: 1	alloy usa outers with currie steering and call it good. Last edited by Joel77; 07-16-2008 at 01:31 PM.

07-16-2008, 04:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
UCTJ The Devils Trailboss Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51571 Location: Texas Posts: 3,893	Ya know Camo I have a Big Daddy steering link and its beef, but really if Id have had the extra money at the time I would have rather gotten Curries steering system, its beefy and address all of the weaker links of the OEM though it still keeps Jeeps OE design (it may not be the best design the OEM one but). I think the only real downside Ive heard about the Currie is that you have to buy their tie rod ends...maybe someone else can confirm or deny. As far as the steering box brace I bought one from M.O.R.E. for mine did I really need it, has this been a major issue with the TJs etc dont truly know but it wasnt much money and I figured better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it...as in being on the trail with a fawked up steering box and frame rail. __________________ 93 W250 CTD 5spd 97 TJ 60/14 Atlas 40" Maxxis 106" WB Shawn www.polyperformance.com

07-16-2008, 05:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
dumblucky Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16575 Location: LA$ VEGAS Posts: 490	drill out the steering arm holes put some heims on , do the same with the pitman arm --1.5" DOM, and have a nice day ...........this is way to hard core for me ................im goin back to JU fukin tard..... __________________ [COLOR="Red"]60/14B xjTRUGGY 38.5 BOGGERS, ROCKTRAC[/COLOR]

07-17-2008, 11:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
Blitzkrieg Head Juggler.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18868 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 335	Only other issue that I can remember about the Currie setup was the front end droop. There is the chance that the TRE at the pitman arm can pop out of the socket if you over extend it. __________________ XJ Family Ride Items for sale: Artec Battery mount Stuff I need: Open D60 carrier/30 spline

07-16-2008, 01:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Joel77 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 31158 Posts: 860 Blog Entries: 1	Depending on size of tires she might need cromo outers for her front axle. If she has 35's she'll need them. The OEM 27 spline outer axle shafts and 35's don't mix very well.

07-16-2008, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
camo No comment Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 4 Location: Rubicon Posts: 27,068 Blog Entries: 1	ya she is running 35"

07-16-2008, 04:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
camo No comment Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 4 Location: Rubicon Posts: 27,068 Blog Entries: 1	is the rubicon express HD tie rod worthy ?

07-16-2008, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sccafire Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Member # 114388 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 64	The tie rod ends are included with the Currie set-up

07-17-2008, 10:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
camo No comment Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 4 Location: Rubicon Posts: 27,068 Blog Entries: 1	FYI... we run the currie tie rod and drag link setup on our 2x winning Baja 1000 jeepspeed and have smashed it plenty hard and never damaged it. conversely we wasted a stock JK tie rod on the rubicon by barely bumping into a rock. anyhow...she went and picked up the RE against my recommendation...so we shall see how it holds up

07-17-2008, 12:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
crusty1007 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47826 Location: PISMO BEACH Posts: 1,052	whats the story with the wj knuckle? i heard its the way to go? __________________ Thean Bellocchi [URL="www.polyperformance.com"]www.[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]oly[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]erformance.com[/URL] [email]Thean@PolyPerformance.com[/email]

07-17-2008, 12:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Blitzkrieg Head Juggler.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18868 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 335	It isn't a completely bolt on situation. You need to move the axle mount for the track bar in order to maintain correct geometery with the steering. __________________ XJ Family Ride Items for sale: Artec Battery mount Stuff I need: Open D60 carrier/30 spline

07-17-2008, 01:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
crusty1007 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47826 Location: PISMO BEACH Posts: 1,052	Is there any thorough write ups on the install? the ball joints are driving me nuts in this kit currently on the Jp. __________________ Thean Bellocchi [URL="www.polyperformance.com"]www.[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]oly[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]erformance.com[/URL] [email]Thean@PolyPerformance.com[/email]

07-17-2008, 01:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
geberhard Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5861 Location: California Posts: 8,491	Camo the stock thin walled drag link is the main problem, the tie rod is solid so should habdle ok. If on a budget, use the Big daddy offroad, and have a pair of spare stock tie rods. Teh Big Daddy costs $120 compared to $500 plus for the currie setup and should be able to handle the 35's. Again, if $$ is not an issue definitely go Currie currectlink. I am actually selling the big daddy offreoad setup that i bough nad never isntaleld on my woife's rig. Pm me if interested, we can probably work outa membership deal and I can ship it your way. __________________ Help us cure kids cancer! Shave for the cause :) Tips on how to build your Jeep bigger! New build, daily driver TJ on 44" rubbers Project hot 40 year old

07-17-2008, 02:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
Blitzkrieg Head Juggler.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18868 Location: Northeast PA Posts: 335	I did the whole set up on my TJ Its fun getting the track bar and the TRE to line up. Moving the spring back makes things a little easier __________________ XJ Family Ride Items for sale: Artec Battery mount Stuff I need: Open D60 carrier/30 spline

07-17-2008, 04:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
Knuckelhead Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 68171 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,730	WJ conversion... __________________ Knuckelhead

07-17-2008, 07:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Redmist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43646 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,650	After the factory Y link, the sector shaft is the weak link on the ZF box...

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