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jesuscowboy · 01-05-2009, 03:58 PM

I now frame builiding has been covered alot but what are the votes for tube or just square. If I go with tube I was thinking about 1.5" 1/8 thick and have two rails with short notch pieces in between; and of course if go with square thinking about 2x4 3/16 or 1/4.

Haggar · 01-05-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jesuscowboy

I now frame builiding has been covered alot but what are the votes for tube or just square. If I go with tube I was thinking about 1.5" 1/8 thick and have two rails with short notch pieces in between; and of course if go with square thinking about 2x4 3/16 or 1/4.

Perhaps you ought to state what this is for, what type of suspension, how much stock equipment, etc, you are trying to mount to this frame.

zachv · 01-05-2009, 04:25 PM

I say use 2x5" 3/8" wall. That will be light.

Grauss · 01-05-2009, 05:45 PM

Just don't do what DECO did...

But seriously, depending on what you want to do with it makes a big difference. If you want to do a buggy you could do all tube, or you could do a square subframe with tube. If your just rebuilding a jeep frame, I'd say 2x4 or 2.5x4 and do 3/16th wall, 1/4 wall is just overkill in my opinion unless you plan on dropping it off a very tall cliff...

Bump&Grind · 01-05-2009, 07:43 PM

ah booty fab how I missed thee. Tubing is easier to work with, mitre cuts and such but tubing looks so much cleaner.

charlieboyd65 · 01-06-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grauss

Just don't do what DECO did...

But seriously, depending on what you want to do with it makes a big difference. If you want to do a buggy you could do all tube, or you could do a square subframe with tube. If your just rebuilding a jeep frame, I'd say 2x4 or 2.5x4 and do 3/16th wall, 1/4 wall is just overkill in my opinion unless you plan on dropping it off a very tall cliff...

At least Deco built his own junk (which doesn't seem to have fallen apart yet). Gauss, tell us all about your build on your YJ and Rubi...

Maybe you should lay off trashing others that actually build their own stuff, when you are merely enjoying the fruit of someone else's labor on your daddy's dime (ie. buy an already built rig, but don't fabricate shiat).

Nothing wrong with buying a built rig, but don't talk smack about someone else learning to fabricate and working on their own project, when you are too afraid to fire up the welder and grinder.

You were trashing him on his build thread, like a little punk and doing the same here. You have 0 room to talk. Put up or shut up!

Sure, Deco has some things to learn with fabricating (and grammar), but you also have a few things to learn about life.

big giant head · 01-06-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieboyd65

At least Deco built his own junk (which doesn't seem to have fallen apart yet). Gauss, tell us all about your build on your YJ and Rubi...

Maybe you should lay off trashing others that actually build their own stuff, when you are merely enjoying the fruit of someone else's labor on your daddy's dime (ie. buy an already built rig, but don't fabricate shiat).

Nothing wrong with buying a built rig, but don't talk smack about someone else learning to fabricate and working on their own project, when you are too afraid to fire up the welder and grinder.

You were trashing him on his build thread, like a little punk and doing the same here. You have 0 room to talk. Put up or shut up!

Sure, Deco has some things to learn with fabricating (and grammar), but you also have a few things to learn about life.

We all have to start somewhere, you just don't roll out of bed and start fabricating sick tube buggies, I say build it safe, and limit it to what your funds, skills and life can allow.

Edit: I guess I should post this in the other thread, but I have seen this jeep work and it does just fine for what it is built for. It is 100% DECO's and his old man doesn't drive it but, he gets enjoyment out of seeing his son drive and for some people that's more fulfilling than anything....

astjp2 · 01-06-2009, 02:26 PM

I would use a combination of round and square, it gives you the best of both worlds!

56Maynard · 01-07-2009, 04:15 PM

Tube is tube whether its round square or rectangle. My advice based on the wording of your question is to hire an experienced chassis fabricator and forget about wasting any steel and electricity.

BnTMike · 01-08-2009, 09:25 PM

I have built 3 now and all this way... stacked, strapped and plated... 3/16 2*4 and there is a 4degree kick to to match a cj-7 frame via pie slice and fold then weld and plate. the 4 degree kicks are in the sub frame only the front and rear rails are straight box tube

mike

01-05-2009, 03:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
jesuscowboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 70202 Posts: 146	Frame build tube or square I now frame builiding has been covered alot but what are the votes for tube or just square. If I go with tube I was thinking about 1.5" 1/8 thick and have two rails with short notch pieces in between; and of course if go with square thinking about 2x4 3/16 or 1/4.

01-05-2009, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
zachv Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8108 Location: SCHUYLKILL HAVEN, PA Posts: 4,076	I say use 2x5" 3/8" wall. That will be light. __________________ AtoZ Fabrication, Inc. 570-385-3931--shop 570-385-3932--fax MADE IN AMERICA---and proud of it!!! We also offer the best service and prices available on: Advance Adapters Clayton Offroad Suspension Raceline beadlocks wheels Amsteel Winchline and accessories ORI struts and Radflo shocks Read my story about Todd at F&S Racing in the Bad Sellers forum

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Grauss Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 121348 Location: Buford, GA Posts: 49	Just don't do what DECO did... But seriously, depending on what you want to do with it makes a big difference. If you want to do a buggy you could do all tube, or you could do a square subframe with tube. If your just rebuilding a jeep frame, I'd say 2x4 or 2.5x4 and do 3/16th wall, 1/4 wall is just overkill in my opinion unless you plan on dropping it off a very tall cliff... __________________ 87 YJ sittin on locked tons and 40 iroks 06 TJ rubi Last edited by Grauss; 01-05-2009 at 05:47 PM.

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BnTMike Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 197 Location: Paradise,CA Posts: 2,802	I have built 3 now and all this way... stacked, strapped and plated... 3/16 24 and there is a 4degree kick to to match a cj-7 frame via pie slice and fold then weld and plate. the 4 degree kicks are in the sub frame only the front and rear rails are straight box tube mike __________________ LADD Racing #82 NCRR and 2014 KOH-EMC Mike Ladd and co dawg Perry Hemre Club Jackass Wheelers TTC 1999 Last edited by BnTMike; 01-08-2009 at 09:27 PM. Reason: your mom*

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01-05-2009, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bump&Grind Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Member # 107843 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 130	ah booty fab how I missed thee. Tubing is easier to work with, mitre cuts and such but tubing looks so much cleaner.

01-06-2009, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
astjp2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Member # 119189 Location: Alaska and Utah Posts: 344	I would use a combination of round and square, it gives you the best of both worlds!

01-07-2009, 04:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
56Maynard Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72053 Posts: 25	Tube is tube whether its round square or rectangle. My advice based on the wording of your question is to hire an experienced chassis fabricator and forget about wasting any steel and electricity.