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Old 08-17-2012, 06:46 AM   #1801 (permalink)
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I can not wait to see this in action. She's coming together quite beautifully that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets over 500,000 views.
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Before there's a single picture of it doing something other than sitting in a garage.


Motivated yet?
I did work on it some last night trying to figure out how to move the upper control arms around and make everything work. But no progress. I'm with you though. I do believe this thread will get over 500k views before it gets to the driving state.

It went from 300k to 400k in 135 days. That is almost 750 views per day. Who are all you people?? I am always floored at the responses I get on a daily basis. I get PMs and phone calls asking questions and it always amazes me that something I've done can reach so many. I had a really nice guy from Australia call to ask about my front axle. I hope he is still reading.


PS... it is now 73 pages.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:59 AM   #1802 (permalink)
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such a clean rig great work man!
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:11 AM   #1803 (permalink)
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To your point of 750 views per day...I've only been following in the background for 3 months roughly, but on a daily basis...probably lots of silent viewers like me out there...

Keep up the kick ass work and attention to detail!
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:16 AM   #1804 (permalink)
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To your point of 750 views per day...I've only been following in the background for 3 months roughly, but on a daily basis...probably lots of silent viewers like me out there...

Keep up the kick ass work and attention to detail!
Thank you for posting. I've met people when out at events that say the same thing. They saw my build but never posted. I've even been told in person to hustle up because they have nothing else to read at work.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:57 AM   #1805 (permalink)
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PS... it is now 73 pages.
it's only 37 if you set to max posts per page
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:25 PM   #1806 (permalink)
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Well... it's a start.



Cutting off the old tacks.



And moving them over.



I'm going to cycle this tomorrow and see how it goes. I am very positive. Just running the body up and down there is very minimal pinion roll. Plus it leaves all kinds of room inside the frame for the drive shaft. Now I can get it exactly where it needs to be instead of making compromises.

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Old 08-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #1807 (permalink)
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Made a small adjustment to the brackets on the axle and I think it is good to go.

Testing out the flex. The passenger side is 1" below full extension. The driver side is 1/2" above full compression and is 1/4" away from the frame.





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Tossed a tire back on and found out at full lock I hit the grill with the tire. These low COG rigs suck!!

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Looks like all you need to do is build new rims or add spacers I was going to ask you about upper control arm clearance and full lock passenger. What I like about spacers is you get better lockout hub protection.
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Looks like all you need to do is build new rims or add spacers I was going to ask you about upper control arm clearance and full lock passenger. What I like about spacers is you get better lockout hub protection.
Upper control arm clearance is fine. I will make new back shells and push them out a bit. The extra width won't hurt anything.
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Just a huge fan of your work!
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Easy fix. Trade me straight across for my 35" km2's and H2 wheels on my dd and you will have zero clearance issues.
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Very clean work man! One thing though...with your latest upper control arm mount location, it looks like you've got almost zero room for coilovers (or ORI's) unless you have an insanely tall axle side mount. Especially in the pic below. The gap between your UCA mount and high steer arm are awefully narrow when the axle is twisted
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:44 AM   #1814 (permalink)
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Easy fix. Trade me straight across for my 35" km2's and H2 wheels on my dd and you will have zero clearance issues.
You want 42" bias for a DD?

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Very clean work man! One thing though...with your latest upper control arm mount location, it looks like you've got almost zero room for coilovers (or ORI's) unless you have an insanely tall axle side mount. Especially in the pic below. The gap between your UCA mount and high steer arm are awefully narrow when the axle is twisted

Looks can be deceiving. I should have plenty of room to run any coilover/shock package available. Just have to install it and be sure before you final weld all the brackets.
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Looking good and can't wait to see it done and out wheeling.

Any concerns or thoughts on the reduced vertical separation of the control arm axle mounts now that you have moved the uppers from the top of the truss to the angled sides of the truss? How much vertical separation do you have now?
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Looking good and can't wait to see it done and out wheeling.

Any concerns or thoughts on the reduced vertical separation of the control arm axle mounts now that you have moved the uppers from the top of the truss to the angled sides of the truss? How much vertical separation do you have now?
Yes some. And no some.

Yes. There is 7.5" between middle of joints. It is easy to get more by dropping the lower control arm brackets. But I don't think I'm going to go that way.

No. I may change back to how I was going before. The only thing getting in the way of my upper control arms being on the inside of the frame is the motor mounts. I've been hell bent on not changing things that are already completed but I am trying to be realistic about it.

I was thinking about it this morning and believe I can run my upper control arms on top of the frame and on top of the truss if I move the motor mount brackets. So I might make that happen. I need to think about it some more.
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Tossed a tire back on and found out at full lock I hit the grill with the tire. These low COG rigs suck!!
I had the same problem with building my TJ low and stretched about 6" in the front, but I also narrowed the front 60 to 63.5". Wish I'd left it full width because I ended up putting 2" wheel spacers on it and changing out my 4.5" backspaced wheels for a set of 3.5" backspace wheels.
Maybe after building two or three more Jeeps, I'll have this crap figured out and get it right the first time

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Old 08-19-2012, 02:06 PM   #1818 (permalink)
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Maybe after building two or three more Jeeps, I'll have this crap figured out and get it right the first time
I was thinking about this over the past few days. I even went back and looked at pics of my last jeep to see where the difference was because I didn't have all these problems before. I've given it quite a bit of thought and the difference is time. On my last jeep I had all the time in the world to get things done. Now I don't. I get all psyched up to get something accomplished and when it doesn't go to plan I get frustrated.

It is fun to figure out the puzzle pieces to make it all work. Lately I've been complaining because of the problems but I'm starting to feel like they are a blessing. They are just different obstacles and instead of being in such a rush to finish this thing out I need to be patient and do it right.

I had problems with my last rig and I had to work through them. I'm having new problems that I haven't encountered before and I will work through those problems. Yesterday I was so upset I was ready to strip it all down and sell it off.

Today I'm having different feelings and I am going to take a break from thinking about the jeep so much. I have a wedding anniversary coming up in a few weeks and I'd like to focus on that as it is more important to me than anything else. So I might not post much about the jeep until I can realign my feelings.

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Front axle is looking great. I really like the out boarded UCA's.

It might have been mentioned earlier, but what is he WMS to WMS distance. Looks a little wider than a normal 60.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for keeping me motivated to get my project completed.
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Front axle is looking great. I really like the out boarded UCA's.

It might have been mentioned earlier, but what is he WMS to WMS distance. Looks a little wider than a normal 60.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for keeping me motivated to get my project completed.
Front axle is 69.375" wide. Glad I could help with your motivation.
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Don't you ever think, Fawk, if I had a 2nd me(clone) Myself and I would kick some serious ass and get this thing done in no time! I feel your pain man. Take a break and come back at it refreshed when your ready. I can see the final outcome of your build will be more than worth the wait.
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Don't you ever think, Fawk, if I had a 2nd me(clone) Myself and I would kick some serious ass and get this thing done in no time! I feel your pain man. Take a break and come back at it refreshed when your ready. I can see the final outcome of your build will be more than worth the wait.
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