8" XJ Lift ?? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

mjjunky · 11-20-2002, 06:37 PM

What would you pro's advise. Skyjacker RR,Tomken Long Arm, Rusty's Long Arm. Skyjacker has the bullet proff. hime joints. Tomken has the Johnnie Joint/rubber. Rusty you have to cut your stock control arm locations off, and have rubber bushings. Any advice. Thanks

hjeepxj · 11-20-2002, 08:17 PM

if you have monies fallin out yo a$$ then get skyjacker....

I have heard good things about rustys new kit....

Tomken.....not sure havent heard anything about it yet

You could always custom make your own kit, mixing and matching, making the best kit EVAR

Goat · 11-20-2002, 09:02 PM

Skyjacker has/had problems with the 8" kit. The axle cradle that comes with the kit had a nasty habbit of breaking at the welds. I'm not sure if the problem has been ironed out...I'm guessing that it has as the kit has been out for over a year.

Secondly, skyjackers springs are very soft...expect the leafs to sag within a year of so. It depends if you use the xj to haul shit around or not.

Last, I dunno how universal that front cradle is but I beleive that it's designed for the D30. With 8" lift you'll prolly be on 35's? In any case 33's or bigger is too much rubber for the toothpick 30 to spin.

hjeepxj · 11-20-2002, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goat
Skyjacker has/had problems with the 8" kit. The axle cradle that comes with the kit had a nasty habbit of breaking at the welds. I'm not sure if the problem has been ironed out...I'm guessing that it has as the kit has been out for over a year.

Secondly, skyjackers springs are very soft...expect the leafs to sag within a year of so. It depends if you use the xj to haul shit around or not.

Last, I dunno how universal that front cradle is but I beleive that it's designed for the D30. With 8" lift you'll prolly be on 35's? In any case 33's or bigger is too much rubber for the toothpick 30 to spin.

good info

skyjacker=

scraprock · 11-20-2002, 11:19 PM

Ahh, I dont think we should all get carried away with SJ. I have run their 8" coils and leafs for 2 yrs now. ZERO problems. BUT!!! I wont touch anything else of theirs!

I heard to many bad things about their stuff breakin. But I wanted soft coils and leafs, and I love em'! I went with my own long arms and shit. If you are ganna go big with an XJ, talk to RE of SJ. You can get good drop brakets and adjustable arms from RE and good lift stuff from SJ. Use REs tract bar drop braket and either make your own or buy REs tract bar. And then figure something our for that crappy steering!

THEN YOUR SET.

Mcstiff · 11-20-2002, 11:30 PM

So its just my SJ leafs that are stiff as hell and dont flex for shit? As far as the hiems they ar NOT bulletproof.

Arya Ebrahimi · 11-21-2002, 12:36 AM

Got Claytons?

My ideal setup:

Clayton's LAs(or homemade copies)
SJ 8" coils
BOR 6" leafs w/ 1.5" shackle(nets around 8-9" of lift)
Custom steering/tracbar to fit the new axle you'll be swinging under it

Peace

Ary

xj4rocks · 11-21-2002, 05:10 AM

I've basically got the same setup Arya

Rusty's 6" front springs (over 6" lift)
clayton's longarm
BOR 6" rear springs with shackle. Pretty much have 8" of lift.

Just finshed the custom crossover steering last night.

I've heard bad things about skycrappers stuff, but as said above their springs aren't bad.

As far as I'm concerned no one makes a 'good' 8" kit nor should they. 8" in an XJ is too high to be going into buying a kit off the shelf. It takes time/research to get it right.

But

i'm already at 8" so what do I care. my 36's like it.

TrevorXJ · 11-21-2002, 05:33 AM

Running as the above to have stated.

RE 4.5 ZJ Coils
BOR 6in leafs and 1.5 lift shackle
My own long arms just about finished.
Still need work on the steering.

With the cut fenders I have already, I hope to be on 37s soon.

kpj · 11-21-2002, 06:20 AM

I agree that you should mix and match parts. You will get the best of everything. I am personnaly running Clayton's LAs with Rockkrawler 6.5" springs (will be going coilover's at some point in the next year or so) and Rusty's HD trackbar mount and bar. In the rear I was running 6" Rusty's springs w/1.5" shackles, but will probably be running some variation of Grand Waggy springs with a relocated rear shackle mount (kind of like Borton's).

FlexyXJ98 · 11-21-2002, 07:51 AM

I hate to get this started but....I know RockKrawler has HAD issues in the past but they have all been worked out. I beta tested that XJ system almost 2 years ago and I wont lie, I broke ALOT of things. But every replacement part was built stronger and I only broke them once. Every co. has had some problems, but I think for the $$$ the RK kit is the best way to go....or like everyone else has said....mix and match, some people have had good luck that way!!!! Good Luck!!!

FlexyXJ98

AZFJ · 11-21-2002, 08:03 AM

Just my two pennies!

...RK front 6" springs....Tomken rear 6" springs and front drop bracket...Re-worked RE long arm kit...Re-worked Rusty Hy-Steer
( dont buy it ..not worth it )...We went on two bad ass trails a couple of weekends ago in Parker...Kept up with the big boys pretty well...Many guys had to go home with there tails between there legs!

TheHighHeat · 11-21-2002, 08:20 AM

i didn't catch what year your jeep was, but if it's a 99+ you have to be careful with the skyjacker kit cause of the low pinion dana 30 and the x-member, the driveshaft will hit, i've got the 8" RR and haven't had any problems, if you run 35's expect to trim a little though and if you are worried about their welds build your own

edit: the hiems are loud!!!!

snagtooth · 11-21-2002, 08:22 AM

Definitely consider claytons! It is super beefy and you can always adjust later to pretty much what ever hieght you want (6"and up). It is super well made and clayton is a pleasure to work with. I recomend clayton. as I'm sure many others do to. For the springs I have skyjacker rr 8Inch with a 2inch poly spacer and the alcan 8inch leafs from BOR. I think that a pretty good amount of guys are running this set up and It is working well. just my opinion.......
-Calvin

ashmanjeepXJ · 11-21-2002, 10:15 AM

TTM · 11-21-2002, 10:21 AM

i think you should be debating only which coils to use, you should build the rest and then you dont have to worry about what arms and joints are stonger.

11-20-2002, 06:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
mjjunky Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12983 Location: Upland Ca. Posts: 13	8" XJ Lift ?? What would you pro's advise. Skyjacker RR,Tomken Long Arm, Rusty's Long Arm. Skyjacker has the bullet proff. hime joints. Tomken has the Johnnie Joint/rubber. Rusty you have to cut your stock control arm locations off, and have rubber bushings. Any advice. Thanks

11-20-2002, 08:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
hjeepxj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14224 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 305	if you have monies fallin out yo a$$ then get skyjacker.... I have heard good things about rustys new kit.... Tomken.....not sure havent heard anything about it yet You could always custom make your own kit, mixing and matching, making the best kit EVAR __________________ [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by B.A.R.K [/i] [B]I thought these guys got sent to JU, this is TOO newbie for the NEWBIE FORUM:shaking: [/B][/QUOTE]

11-20-2002, 09:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Goat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9988 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 786	Skyjacker has/had problems with the 8" kit. The axle cradle that comes with the kit had a nasty habbit of breaking at the welds. I'm not sure if the problem has been ironed out...I'm guessing that it has as the kit has been out for over a year. Secondly, skyjackers springs are very soft...expect the leafs to sag within a year of so. It depends if you use the xj to haul shit around or not. Last, I dunno how universal that front cradle is but I beleive that it's designed for the D30. With 8" lift you'll prolly be on 35's? In any case 33's or bigger is too much rubber for the toothpick 30 to spin. __________________ Building tools that create the 4th state of matter.

11-20-2002, 11:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mcstiff Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3413 Location: Denver, Co USA Posts: 1,323	So its just my SJ leafs that are stiff as hell and dont flex for shit? As far as the hiems they ar NOT bulletproof. __________________ cuando empezemos, no me di yo cuenta, de que luego tuviera que pagar pero, si se cambie, me muera a acostarme con ti, con ti

11-21-2002, 05:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
xj4rocks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9287 Location: South Central, PA Posts: 310	I've basically got the same setup Arya Rusty's 6" front springs (over 6" lift) clayton's longarm BOR 6" rear springs with shackle. Pretty much have 8" of lift. Just finshed the custom crossover steering last night. I've heard bad things about skycrappers stuff, but as said above their springs aren't bad. As far as I'm concerned no one makes a 'good' 8" kit nor should they. 8" in an XJ is too high to be going into buying a kit off the shelf. It takes time/research to get it right. But i'm already at 8" so what do I care. my 36's like it. __________________ 88 XJ 8"/36s/locked when I grow up - I don't want to be like you

11-20-2002, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
scraprock Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10739 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 462	Ahh, I dont think we should all get carried away with SJ. I have run their 8" coils and leafs for 2 yrs now. ZERO problems. BUT!!! I wont touch anything else of theirs! I heard to many bad things about their stuff breakin. But I wanted soft coils and leafs, and I love em'! I went with my own long arms and shit. If you are ganna go big with an XJ, talk to RE of SJ. You can get good drop brakets and adjustable arms from RE and good lift stuff from SJ. Use REs tract bar drop braket and either make your own or buy REs tract bar. And then figure something our for that crappy steering! THEN YOUR SET.

11-21-2002, 12:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Arya Ebrahimi Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7876 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 4,214	Got Claytons? My ideal setup: Clayton's LAs(or homemade copies) SJ 8" coils BOR 6" leafs w/ 1.5" shackle(nets around 8-9" of lift) Custom steering/tracbar to fit the new axle you'll be swinging under it Peace Ary

11-21-2002, 05:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
TrevorXJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3399 Location: Henderson ,LA USA Posts: 257	Running as the above to have stated. RE 4.5 ZJ Coils BOR 6in leafs and 1.5 lift shackle My own long arms just about finished. Still need work on the steering. With the cut fenders I have already, I hope to be on 37s soon. __________________ 60's F & R, 42's, 5.13, Atlas, and enjoying the trails

11-21-2002, 06:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
kpj Rock God Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6920 Location: Amesbury, MA Posts: 1,815	I agree that you should mix and match parts. You will get the best of everything. I am personnaly running Clayton's LAs with Rockkrawler 6.5" springs (will be going coilover's at some point in the next year or so) and Rusty's HD trackbar mount and bar. In the rear I was running 6" Rusty's springs w/1.5" shackles, but will probably be running some variation of Grand Waggy springs with a relocated rear shackle mount (kind of like Borton's).

11-21-2002, 07:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
FlexyXJ98 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14573 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 13	I hate to get this started but....I know RockKrawler has HAD issues in the past but they have all been worked out. I beta tested that XJ system almost 2 years ago and I wont lie, I broke ALOT of things. But every replacement part was built stronger and I only broke them once. Every co. has had some problems, but I think for the $$$ the RK kit is the best way to go....or like everyone else has said....mix and match, some people have had good luck that way!!!! Good Luck!!! FlexyXJ98 __________________ 98 XJ w RockKrawler 8" Long arm kit, D44 rear with Lock-right and 4.88, D30 REV front with OX and 4.88 and other stuff...

11-21-2002, 08:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
AZFJ Rock God Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5600 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,488	Just my two pennies! ...RK front 6" springs....Tomken rear 6" springs and front drop bracket...Re-worked RE long arm kit...Re-worked Rusty Hy-Steer ( dont buy it ..not worth it )...We went on two bad ass trails a couple of weekends ago in Parker...Kept up with the big boys pretty well...Many guys had to go home with there tails between there legs! Attached Images __________________ I got two things for sure in this world..My word and my balls..I'm not breaking them for anybody! Missing my 40...Shoe leather express jones TLCA Member #13409

11-21-2002, 08:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
TheHighHeat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9209 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 46	i didn't catch what year your jeep was, but if it's a 99+ you have to be careful with the skyjacker kit cause of the low pinion dana 30 and the x-member, the driveshaft will hit, i've got the 8" RR and haven't had any problems, if you run 35's expect to trim a little though and if you are worried about their welds build your own edit: the hiems are loud!!!! Last edited by TheHighHeat; 11-21-2002 at 08:22 AM.

11-21-2002, 08:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
snagtooth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14763 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 134	Definitely consider claytons! It is super beefy and you can always adjust later to pretty much what ever hieght you want (6"and up). It is super well made and clayton is a pleasure to work with. I recomend clayton. as I'm sure many others do to. For the springs I have skyjacker rr 8Inch with a 2inch poly spacer and the alcan 8inch leafs from BOR. I think that a pretty good amount of guys are running this set up and It is working well. just my opinion....... -Calvin

11-21-2002, 10:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
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11-21-2002, 10:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
TTM Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10285 Location: Marietta, Ga Posts: 289	i think you should be debating only which coils to use, you should build the rest and then you dont have to worry about what arms and joints are stonger. __________________ '78 CJ 7 Dana 60/70, 7.17 gears, 42 inch Swampers -- Sold :( Lots of fender trimmin. **Current Project: '95 Grand Cherokee...60/70, 39.5 Iroks, 231, full hydro [url]www.jeepsandyotas.com[/url] [url]www.rebelrockrunners.org[/url]

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