Boggers for rock crawling??? Good or not good? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

caddyman · 08-22-2011, 02:14 PM

Looking at some used tires and came across a good deal for a set of 37" Boggers. I don't know alot about them other than there good for mud.

I don't ever see any mud where I'm at. I mostly do desert wheeling in socal, Johnson Valley, Truck Haven, Panamint Valley, etc. I currently have 35" Km2's but would like to go up to 37" without buying new tires. I was just wondering if the Boggers grip the rocks ok when air down or do there slide off?

Thanks for any input in advance.

MuddyV8YJ · 08-22-2011, 02:24 PM

Boggers will work, but it won't be pretty. There are a million other choices out there for tires, and 99% of them will be better in the rocks than boggers.

UCTJ · 08-22-2011, 02:28 PM

Wouldnt be my first choice and Id only get if they were just giving them away. I think there are better tires out there at good deals to be had just keep looking. I see lots of tires being sold by you west coast guys all the time in the classifieds.

In the open · 08-22-2011, 03:19 PM

If you are happy with the trade, cut them and run them. They will work.

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caddyman · 08-22-2011, 03:23 PM

I know what you mean, but these are 99% new less than 100 miles, no patches or plugs in them for $500 to $600 seems like a good deal.

Rman · 08-22-2011, 03:31 PM

I ran 35 inch Dunlop mud rovers for years, and they did great in places like Moab. A friend gave me a really good deal on some new 37 boggers and beadlock rims. I was not very happy with them for slickrock, they did well on jagged rock, but poorly on slickrock climbs. Things that I went right up before I could not climb, I would peel out and slide to the bottom, I have since went to pitbull rockers, I have not got to try them out yet though.

UCTJ · 08-22-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by caddyman

I know what you mean, but these are 99% new less than 100 miles, no patches or plugs in them for $500 to $600 seems like a good deal.

Then pick em up and cut em. It may do fine if you groove/cut em up. Good price is he in a bind?

Malibu · 08-23-2011, 06:23 AM

I ran grooved 38.5s and they did well on the stuff we run. Only issue I ran into was side hatching. Not sure if that is the correct term, but they did want to slide sideways if I was on a sloping rock or hill. The grooving helped. I will say they do great when climbing ledges. They did better than my TSLs I have now.

slacker 24/7 · 08-23-2011, 07:15 AM

lateral traction (side to side) is really lacking with boggers in the rocks, i have seen alot of em ran and the traction going forward was pretty good but they are bad about slipping to the side

SanDiegoCJ · 08-23-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MuddyV8YJ

Boggers will work, but it won't be pretty. There are a million other choices out there for tires, and 99% of them will be better in the rocks than boggers.

I agree. I had a buggy for a while with them on it and they didn't have a lot of side bite. They'd slide on side hills.

caddyman · 08-23-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by slacker 24/7

lateral traction (side to side) is really lacking with boggers in the rocks, i have seen alot of em ran and the traction going forward was pretty good but they are bad about slipping to the side

That's really good info and it's what I was looking for, thanks.

Thanks to everyone for the info. I'm going to pass on these and keep looking.

I really like my KM2's just wish they where taller!

stieg000 · 08-23-2011, 05:51 PM

Agree with Rman. Boggers definitely not good for slick rock. Was in Moab with my buddy running boggers. He had a hard to climbing a lot of stuff compared to the swamper sx's i was runnin. I prefer a tire with some side tread too.

SwampMonster · 08-23-2011, 08:36 PM

I run a narrow set of 38in boggers and i grooved them and they work great in MI, but I can see how they would not work in a slick rock situation.

caddyman · 08-24-2011, 05:01 PM

I just picked up two new 37" Krawlers red labels, got a good deal on them. Now just need two more.
My Jeep is trailered most places, they should last a while.

Thanks for all the tips about the Boggers!

UCTJ · 08-24-2011, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caddyman

I just picked up two new 37" Krawlers red labels, got a good deal on them. Now just need two more.
My Jeep is trailered most places, they should last a while.

Thanks for all the tips about the Boggers!

Shit you get two more reds and you'll be worlds apart from most other tires! Good score...

-jb- · 08-25-2011, 11:03 AM

I ran a bogger for awhile and for East Coast wheeling they are great for about everything we see, which is muddy, rocky, slippery, sloppy etc. But climbing muddy hills they tend to walk side ways and def. did not make off camber slippery sections fun. Rocks they did ok but my Iroks are 10x better and do great in mud as well.

Save the money and get a tire you won't be cussing. Boggers have their place and I love the way they dig but there are other tires out there that dig just as good and grip a whole lot better.

caddyman · 08-26-2011, 07:33 AM

Just picked up a set of four with 95% remaining yesterday from someone off pirate4x4.com

So now I have two new spare's for my set. Bring on the rocks!!!

08-22-2011, 02:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
caddyman Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 155423 Location: Temecula,Ca Posts: 218	Boggers for rock crawling??? Good or not good? Looking at some used tires and came across a good deal for a set of 37" Boggers. I don't know alot about them other than there good for mud. I don't ever see any mud where I'm at. I mostly do desert wheeling in socal, Johnson Valley, Truck Haven, Panamint Valley, etc. I currently have 35" Km2's but would like to go up to 37" without buying new tires. I was just wondering if the Boggers grip the rocks ok when air down or do there slide off? Thanks for any input in advance.

08-22-2011, 02:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
MuddyV8YJ Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29638 Location: CP, NY Posts: 495	Boggers will work, but it won't be pretty. There are a million other choices out there for tires, and 99% of them will be better in the rocks than boggers. __________________ "Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid." [QUOTE=Grim Reaper]Cause of death: Natural selection. :laughing: [/QUOTE] Girls fake orgasms, guys fake relationships

08-22-2011, 02:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
UCTJ The Devils Trailboss Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51571 Location: Texas Posts: 3,893	Wouldnt be my first choice and Id only get if they were just giving them away. I think there are better tires out there at good deals to be had just keep looking. I see lots of tires being sold by you west coast guys all the time in the classifieds. __________________ 93 W250 CTD 5spd 97 TJ 60/14 Atlas 40" Maxxis 106" WB Shawn www.polyperformance.com

08-22-2011, 03:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
In the open Wheeler Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 56370 Location: Below the thumb Posts: 178	If you are happy with the trade, cut them and run them. They will work. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...M=Z7FD#x0y1342 __________________ This is America, you can do whatever you want.

08-23-2011, 07:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
slacker 24/7 broke ass wheeler Join Date: Jul 2010 Member # 164750 Location: Russellville Ar. Posts: 254	lateral traction (side to side) is really lacking with boggers in the rocks, i have seen alot of em ran and the traction going forward was pretty good but they are bad about slipping to the side __________________ 1985 fj60 cruiser, ome heavies, bullbar/8274,33km2's TLCA # 6001

08-22-2011, 03:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
caddyman Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 155423 Location: Temecula,Ca Posts: 218	I know what you mean, but these are 99% new less than 100 miles, no patches or plugs in them for $500 to $600 seems like a good deal.

08-22-2011, 03:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158401 Location: Cortez CO Posts: 69	I ran 35 inch Dunlop mud rovers for years, and they did great in places like Moab. A friend gave me a really good deal on some new 37 boggers and beadlock rims. I was not very happy with them for slickrock, they did well on jagged rock, but poorly on slickrock climbs. Things that I went right up before I could not climb, I would peel out and slide to the bottom, I have since went to pitbull rockers, I have not got to try them out yet though.

08-23-2011, 06:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Malibu Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85468 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 251	I ran grooved 38.5s and they did well on the stuff we run. Only issue I ran into was side hatching. Not sure if that is the correct term, but they did want to slide sideways if I was on a sloping rock or hill. The grooving helped. I will say they do great when climbing ledges. They did better than my TSLs I have now.

08-23-2011, 05:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
stieg000 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Member # 136660 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 47	Agree with Rman. Boggers definitely not good for slick rock. Was in Moab with my buddy running boggers. He had a hard to climbing a lot of stuff compared to the swamper sx's i was runnin. I prefer a tire with some side tread too.

08-23-2011, 08:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
SwampMonster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64529 Location: Hart, MI Posts: 96	I run a narrow set of 38in boggers and i grooved them and they work great in MI, but I can see how they would not work in a slick rock situation. __________________ When Your Fullsize You Rub On Both Sides!

08-24-2011, 05:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
caddyman Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 155423 Location: Temecula,Ca Posts: 218	I just picked up two new 37" Krawlers red labels, got a good deal on them. Now just need two more. My Jeep is trailered most places, they should last a while. Thanks for all the tips about the Boggers!

08-25-2011, 11:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
-jb- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Member # 117969 Location: 540 of VA Posts: 144	I ran a bogger for awhile and for East Coast wheeling they are great for about everything we see, which is muddy, rocky, slippery, sloppy etc. But climbing muddy hills they tend to walk side ways and def. did not make off camber slippery sections fun. Rocks they did ok but my Iroks are 10x better and do great in mud as well. Save the money and get a tire you won't be cussing. Boggers have their place and I love the way they dig but there are other tires out there that dig just as good and grip a whole lot better. __________________ 01 TJ hp30/44, locked, 4.88's, 35in MTR's - DD 03 TJ 79HP 60/70, 5.9l Magnum - On Jack Stands

08-26-2011, 07:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
caddyman Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 155423 Location: Temecula,Ca Posts: 218	Just picked up a set of four with 95% remaining yesterday from someone off pirate4x4.com So now I have two new spare's for my set. Bring on the rocks!!!

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