YJ + 42s + full body = Mammer Jammer Rebuild - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

bofer · 01-11-2012, 05:29 PM

So after having the jeep for a year and wheeling it i have come to the conclusion as many have in the past that 37s, stock WB, and a 44/8.8 is just not going to be able to make me happy and take me where i want to go.

starting the rebuild thread here - plans are the following. Some of which i can do myself, some of which i will have shop do for me (time is a big factor with my career)

Sell the Waggy 44, use funds to buy front dana 60 (KP) and use waggy leafs up front for a 2" front stretch.

Sell 8.8, use funds for a 14 bolt. Ruff Stuff heims and link kit, FOA coilovers/coil springs - wanting to keep it low as possible

Currently in process: getting the comp cut corners painted to match body paint. New racing seats are in and new crow harnesses. A 351w on propane, np435 and np205 are replacing the 4 banger and ax5

- waiting for the tax return

My plan is to keep the WB at 110" and make this as buggy looking as possible, while at the same time keeping my soft top (case i wheel in the cold/rain lol...us FL boys hate the cold

I also want to keep this thing somewhat streetable - case the GF wants to take it to the beach. it will be 90% off road, 10% on road. intentions are alabama/tenn style wheelin cable hill, choco, grey rock etc...

Pics to come in a few days

bofer · 01-16-2012, 04:14 PM

Got the comp cut corners painted over the weekend.

Here they are.

In the process right now of finishing my seats, seat bracketry, harness bar etc... more pics to come in the coming weeks.

quality

Phat95YJ · 01-17-2012, 12:25 AM

We need more pictures heh

bofer · 01-17-2012, 04:26 PM

Where she last sat

ill get some updated pics...this is how it used to sit before i started doing some fab work on it. Basic build at this point in time. Waggy 44 built, 8.8 rear, SOA, 37 bias rockers.

bofer · 01-22-2012, 09:30 AM

Picked up a FF 14 bolt for $150. Its a SRW, 3.73 rear and open. I will be doing a shave on it, adding a diff cover, disks and 5:13 gears and a detroit/welded.

CreepinYJ · 01-22-2012, 11:43 AM

Ruffstuff has some awsome products. I use a lot of their stuff, from 4 link kit to axle kits. The only thing I didn't like about their 4 link kit is how high the truss sits.

bofer · 01-22-2012, 02:43 PM

LOL...i was just reading a thread on that.

jkl · 01-22-2012, 02:56 PM

Bigger pics would be nice....

bofer · 01-22-2012, 07:34 PM

I was using photobucket...know how to make them bigger?

MuddyPaws · 01-22-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkl

Bigger pics would be nice....

That's what I was thinking. Maybe budget a better camera into the build.

jkl · 01-23-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofer

I was using photobucket...know how to make them bigger?

I have my pics set to large by default. Can't remember off the top of my head how to do it though.

flatblack51 · 01-23-2012, 10:36 AM

I welded my 14B and when I drive it on the pavement it's all over the place so I recommend a detroit. then again i'm a spooled D60 in the front with drive slugs as well.

DutchVDub · 01-23-2012, 12:06 PM

14bolt Detroit is relatively cheap and it's easy as pie to install.

bofer · 01-24-2012, 04:29 PM

Will probably go Detroit because it is so cheap. This is going to be a slow build because of funds...trying to build a jeep and buy a diamond usually doesnt go hand in hand

Pics to come this weekend of the new seats etc....

bofer · 01-29-2012, 07:11 PM

***Update

Today was a pretty productive day. Seats are done. I used some Corbeau racing seats, and used their seat risers. They came out pretty good i think, and are pretty comfy. Just a little stiff, so i think they need to "break in"?? Anybody know about this?

For Harnesses i chose no other then Crow

I went with the 3" wide version cause i heard they were a little more comfortable. I didnt get a submarine, and now realized i should have. When you pull the harnesses tight, it kinda rides up on you, so ill be getting those in the next month or so. They need some tweaking but im happy with the way they turned out and they are dang comfy when im all strapped in. Question - Do you guys go through the seats holes, or just over???

For the Harness Bar, i just used a standard bar and had it welded up to come clamps. I think this will be good enough for the time being. Angle look good to the experts out there???

Also finished the COMP CUT...and lovin it! sent them off for paint last week and had them put it on thick

got the hardware and mounted them all up...came out pretty good. Ya, i know i need to remove that white crap on my rockers

Gas tank is in the bed of the jeep now to. for a short term fix basically. I have decided im going dual fuel with the 351w, so i need to find a way to mount a small fuel cell in there (10 gal ??), and still be able to fit a 43# tank in there. Anybody have any ideas??
For all you Pirate Fans

bofer · 01-29-2012, 07:14 PM

Finished the day by installing a set of LEDs from Grote. Supahh Blingg

Anybody know what diod thingy to install for the blinkers to actually work??

It was a really productive day and things are slowly coming together with the "Mammer Jammer" build. Next step is either installing the 351w, np435,np205 OR stretching the rear. Depends on how much money i want to spend haha.

Phat95YJ · 01-29-2012, 09:56 PM

Damn, Jeep is coming along great man! I like the seats and harness's

bofer · 03-04-2012, 05:35 PM

havent really done any work on the jeep lately, i have been so busy with work. BUT...some parts showed up

Got an Art Carr shifter for the C6.

Went with the standard rock gate pattern for now...just fiddlin around with it i can get it into R pretty dang fast....dont know what others are talking about. ill eventually get a reverse valve body, but trying to keep the funds down...at some point you just have to draw the line.

Here is the 351w and C6 all matted up together. I was having starter problems at first but narrowed it down to a flex plate problem

got the correct flex plate for a C6 and got it to engage today. It wouldnt start because of a plug wire i think, but it sure does turn over. Im going to try some eather next weekend.

bofer · 03-04-2012, 05:38 PM

lastly the wire loom....anybody know where i can get a replacement duraspark harness? The actual box works fine i think but the wires are a hack job right now from the previous owner. Really need help on this one as i have been looking with no results. I have heard the JY but would rather go new if possible on this.

Phat95YJ · 03-04-2012, 09:27 PM

cool motor

crashnzuk · 03-04-2012, 11:40 PM

Your harness bar is too high, it should be about 4" below your shoulders. I don't know how you're gonna fit a gas tank and propane in a jeep? Sounds like it should be a pretty nice set-up once you get it going though.
Travis..

bofer · 03-05-2012, 04:12 PM

I know i know...i need to lower it. i just havent gotten around to it yet

After doing some more research, im now back on the fence about which direction to go. Packaging is a big issue you are right as well as engine height. Its pretty much the last thing i will need to buy so i will see how much room i have when the engine is in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashnzuk

Your harness bar is too high, it should be about 4" below your shoulders. I don't know how you're gonna fit a gas tank and propane in a jeep? Sounds like it should be a pretty nice set-up once you get it going though.
Travis..

_Stucky · 03-07-2012, 07:33 AM

EL 12 from napa is the lil do dad you need to make the lights not flash fast.

bofer · 03-07-2012, 08:29 PM

Stucky, they actually dont flash at all?? they just stay lite. Will this fix that problem as well? i know it has to do with a power/ohm thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stucky

EL 12 from napa is the lil do dad you need to make the lights not flash fast.

_Stucky · 03-07-2012, 10:29 PM

This will answer more questions than I can...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/r...nstall-654523/

As will this:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/y...s-here-580536/

If I remember correctly, EL 12 makes the lights flash the right speed no matter what the load on it.

01-11-2012, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	YJ + 42s + full body = Mammer Jammer Rebuild So after having the jeep for a year and wheeling it i have come to the conclusion as many have in the past that 37s, stock WB, and a 44/8.8 is just not going to be able to make me happy and take me where i want to go. starting the rebuild thread here - plans are the following. Some of which i can do myself, some of which i will have shop do for me (time is a big factor with my career) Sell the Waggy 44, use funds to buy front dana 60 (KP) and use waggy leafs up front for a 2" front stretch. Sell 8.8, use funds for a 14 bolt. Ruff Stuff heims and link kit, FOA coilovers/coil springs - wanting to keep it low as possible Currently in process: getting the comp cut corners painted to match body paint. New racing seats are in and new crow harnesses. A 351w on propane, np435 and np205 are replacing the 4 banger and ax5 - waiting for the tax return My plan is to keep the WB at 110" and make this as buggy looking as possible, while at the same time keeping my soft top (case i wheel in the cold/rain lol...us FL boys hate the cold I also want to keep this thing somewhat streetable - case the GF wants to take it to the beach. it will be 90% off road, 10% on road. intentions are alabama/tenn style wheelin cable hill, choco, grey rock etc... Pics to come in a few days

01-16-2012, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	Got the comp cut corners painted over the weekend. Here they are. In the process right now of finishing my seats, seat bracketry, harness bar etc... more pics to come in the coming weeks. quality Last edited by bofer; 01-16-2012 at 04:15 PM.

01-17-2012, 12:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Phat95YJ Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189941 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 592	We need more pictures heh __________________ 95 YJ- with stuff, 04 KJ- stock 05 F350- the tow rig

01-22-2012, 09:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	Picked up a FF 14 bolt for $150. Its a SRW, 3.73 rear and open. I will be doing a shave on it, adding a diff cover, disks and 5:13 gears and a detroit/welded. Last edited by bofer; 01-22-2012 at 09:32 AM.

01-22-2012, 11:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
CreepinYJ Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2011 Member # 186901 Location: Beaumont, Ca Posts: 192	Ruffstuff has some awsome products. I use a lot of their stuff, from 4 link kit to axle kits. The only thing I didn't like about their 4 link kit is how high the truss sits. __________________ 94YJ, 37's, linked rear, tons, and stretched to 109"

01-17-2012, 04:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	Where she last sat ill get some updated pics...this is how it used to sit before i started doing some fab work on it. Basic build at this point in time. Waggy 44 built, 8.8 rear, SOA, 37 bias rockers.

01-22-2012, 02:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	LOL...i was just reading a thread on that.

01-22-2012, 02:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
jkl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142189 Location: Under my Jeep in Lakeland, Fl Posts: 158	Bigger pics would be nice.... __________________ [SIZE="3"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008667"]XJ on Chevy 1 tons and 40s[/URL] LJ on 35s[/SIZE]

01-22-2012, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	I was using photobucket...know how to make them bigger?

01-23-2012, 10:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
flatblack51 Rock God Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 121033 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,074	I welded my 14B and when I drive it on the pavement it's all over the place so I recommend a detroit. then again i'm a spooled D60 in the front with drive slugs as well. __________________ 89 YJ but not really back halved!?!350 5.7L 4L60E D60 14B(shaved)5.13 39" BFG Baja projects atlas 4spV2 ADS coilovers and fox bumps at the corners! BOMTEC Racing 4476 jimmy's 4x4 support team Torchmate2x4 cutting your stuff for dirt cheap!PM for quotes!

01-23-2012, 12:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
DutchVDub Rock God Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 133593 Location: Firestone, CO Posts: 1,731	14bolt Detroit is relatively cheap and it's easy as pie to install. __________________ "The American people sleep peaceably in their beds at night because US Soldiers stand ready to do violence on their behalf" 2000 XJ Classic: 4.5" lift, 4.56's, Alum Beadlocks, 35's, and all the other soccer mom add-ons 1948 Willys CJ2a: stock for now 2000 Audi S4 Stage II

01-24-2012, 04:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	Will probably go Detroit because it is so cheap. This is going to be a slow build because of funds...trying to build a jeep and buy a diamond usually doesnt go hand in hand Pics to come this weekend of the new seats etc....

01-29-2012, 07:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	**Update Today was a pretty productive day. Seats are done. I used some Corbeau racing seats, and used their seat risers. They came out pretty good i think, and are pretty comfy. Just a little stiff, so i think they need to "break in"?? Anybody know about this? For Harnesses i chose no other then Crow I went with the 3" wide version cause i heard they were a little more comfortable. I didnt get a submarine, and now realized i should have. When you pull the harnesses tight, it kinda rides up on you, so ill be getting those in the next month or so. They need some tweaking but im happy with the way they turned out and they are dang comfy when im all strapped in. Question - Do you guys go through the seats holes, or just over??? For the Harness Bar, i just used a standard bar and had it welded up to come clamps. I think this will be good enough for the time being. Angle look good to the experts out there??? Also finished the COMP CUT...and lovin it! sent them off for paint last week and had them put it on thick got the hardware and mounted them all up...came out pretty good. Ya, i know i need to remove that white crap on my rockers Gas tank is in the bed of the jeep now to. for a short term fix basically. I have decided im going dual fuel with the 351w, so i need to find a way to mount a small fuel cell in there (10 gal ??), and still be able to fit a 43# tank in there. Anybody have any ideas?? For all you Pirate Fans Last edited by bofer; 01-29-2012 at 07:15 PM.*

01-29-2012, 07:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	Finished the day by installing a set of LEDs from Grote. Supahh Blingg Anybody know what diod thingy to install for the blinkers to actually work?? It was a really productive day and things are slowly coming together with the "Mammer Jammer" build. Next step is either installing the 351w, np435,np205 OR stretching the rear. Depends on how much money i want to spend haha.

01-29-2012, 09:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
Phat95YJ Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189941 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 592	Damn, Jeep is coming along great man! I like the seats and harness's __________________ 95 YJ- with stuff, 04 KJ- stock 05 F350- the tow rig

03-04-2012, 05:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	havent really done any work on the jeep lately, i have been so busy with work. BUT...some parts showed up Got an Art Carr shifter for the C6. Went with the standard rock gate pattern for now...just fiddlin around with it i can get it into R pretty dang fast....dont know what others are talking about. ill eventually get a reverse valve body, but trying to keep the funds down...at some point you just have to draw the line. Here is the 351w and C6 all matted up together. I was having starter problems at first but narrowed it down to a flex plate problem got the correct flex plate for a C6 and got it to engage today. It wouldnt start because of a plug wire i think, but it sure does turn over. Im going to try some eather next weekend.

03-04-2012, 05:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	lastly the wire loom....anybody know where i can get a replacement duraspark harness? The actual box works fine i think but the wires are a hack job right now from the previous owner. Really need help on this one as i have been looking with no results. I have heard the JY but would rather go new if possible on this.

03-04-2012, 09:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
Phat95YJ Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189941 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 592	cool motor __________________ 95 YJ- with stuff, 04 KJ- stock 05 F350- the tow rig

03-04-2012, 11:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
crashnzuk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17632 Location: West Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,370	Your harness bar is too high, it should be about 4" below your shoulders. I don't know how you're gonna fit a gas tank and propane in a jeep? Sounds like it should be a pretty nice set-up once you get it going though. Travis.. __________________ 74 Ramcharger, 360, 4spd, 60/70 on 37s 91.5 Dodge 6BT 5 spd tow rig

03-07-2012, 07:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
_Stucky Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 182743 Location: Central IL Posts: 279	EL 12 from napa is the lil do dad you need to make the lights not flash fast.

03-07-2012, 10:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
_Stucky Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 182743 Location: Central IL Posts: 279	This will answer more questions than I can... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/r...nstall-654523/ As will this: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/y...s-here-580536/ If I remember correctly, EL 12 makes the lights flash the right speed no matter what the load on it.

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