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Old 04-17-2012, 03:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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80-92 wagoneer front axle width for hp44 cut down

I know this has been beat to death but I'm gonna beat it some more. I have searched and searched and have found so much variation and different numbers its crazy. Is there anywhere legit info can be found on 80-92 wagoneer for the axles? I need the width so I can cut down a hp44. I have seen more say its 61.5 but I for wanna trust a million different opinions.
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I have one apart right now among all the various things I am working on. If you can hang on til tomorrow I will measure the shaft lengths and the distance between the upper ball joint holes. That won't give you WMS, but WMS can change depending on outer components anyway. The big thing will be having the shaft lengths match off-the-shelf shafts.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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True. I have all the time in the world. I'm still gathering g parts for the swap so it won't happen for a month or so. Thanks I appreciate it.
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Is there anywhere legit info can be found on 80-92 wagoneer for the axles?
There is TONS of info on the Dana website. You can basically get BOMs, P/Ns, dimensions, etc. Check it out --> http://www2.dana.com/expert/

If you go to the light axle section you can get all kinds of literature.

Relative to your specific question, you'll end up very close to 61.5. To find out exactly, you'll want to do this:
  1. Mock up the axle at full original width with all of your intended outer components
  2. Measure WMS - WMS
  3. Get the inner axle shaft lengths from the original full width axle
  4. Get the inner axle shaft lengths for the shafts you plan to use
  5. Do the math to figure out how much shorter each side will be
  6. Subtract those numbers from your original WMS - WMS measurement
If you start with an F100 HP44 and use Waggy shafts, you'll end up very close to 61.5 WMS - WMS (depending on your outers). You'll have to cut 3.10" out of the drivers side and 1.78" out of the passenger side.

Waggy Shafts
BOM 610140
RH Shaft 660091-9
RH Length 32.12
LH Shaft 660091-24
LH Length 15.8
F100 Shafts
BOM 603482
RH Shaft 660003-1
RH Length 33.91
LH Shaft 660003-2
LH Length 18.91
If you want to end up at some other width you'll need to mix and match shafts to get there. You can get all of the info you need from Dana's website. If you're trying to match stock XJ/TJ width the above option is about as close as you can get without custom shafts.

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Order the shafts and cut down to them. The passenger and driver drop Waggy axle shafts are slightly different widths, so you won't want to go by overall WMS until you get the shafts you want to use.


Personlly, I would cut the axle down to use Rubicon front shafts since they are more plentiful and cheaper.
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There is TONS of info on the Dana website. You can basically get BOMs, P/Ns, dimensions, etc. Check it out --> http://www2.dana.com/expert/

If you go to the light axle section you can get all kinds of literature.

Relative to your specific question, you'll end up very close to 61.5. To find out exactly, you'll want to do this:
  1. Mock up the axle at full original width with all of your intended outer components
  2. Measure WMS - WMS
  3. Get the inner axle shaft lengths from the original full width axle
  4. Get the inner axle shaft lengths for the shafts you plan to use
  5. Do the math to figure out how much shorter each side will be
  6. Subtract those numbers from your original WMS - WMS measurement
If you start with an F100 HP44 and use Waggy shafts, you'll end up very close to 61.5 WMS - WMS (depending on your outers). You'll have to cut 3.10" out of the drivers side and 1.78" out of the passenger side.

Waggy Shafts
BOM 610140
RH Shaft 660091-9
RH Length 32.12
LH Shaft 660091-24
LH Length 15.8
F100 Shafts
BOM 603482
RH Shaft 660003-1
RH Length 33.91
LH Shaft 660003-2
LH Length 18.91
If you want to end up at some other width you'll need to mix and match shafts to get there. You can get all of the info you need from Dana's website. If you're trying to match stock XJ/TJ width the above option is about as close as you can get without custom shafts.

Have fun...
Just what I was looking for. Thanks for the great info!!!
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