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mayomc · 10-07-2005, 08:09 PM

I just bought this wagoneer to build it for my Hunting and fishing jeep, mountian use basicly. It has a AMC 20, I have read that the AMC 20 Is not very strong. can I build it to be stronger? I am new at this so every Idea is very appreciated. I have a 3in body lift waiting to be put on and adding a 4in suspention lift. Body work is almost complete, cann't wait to hit it. thanks

ItsaCJ6 · 10-07-2005, 08:46 PM

If you want this to fish and hunt then leave it stock. Your 20 is fine. If you want to wheel, then delete this post and start reading.

bowtied_micky · 10-08-2005, 01:21 PM

this is a very tough site. you are going to get your ass lit up with a rookie question like that. let your skin toughen up and deal with it. the majority of folks here want to know how to repair (or brag about) a busted d60 cuz they are that tough on their rigs. I would look to JU for any more basic question

for your cherokee, if you want to do any mods I would look at bj's offroad. they have loads of stuff for that truck.

ps this ain't tuesday

micky

mr.tech · 10-08-2005, 02:13 PM

they are right any thing that is not "hard core" on this site gets flamed. rough croud. this is a good site for reading about tech and building a rig. so read and search. also head over to www.ifsja.com they are awsome guys and it is a FSJ only site.

APRILRAZZ · 10-08-2005, 11:04 PM

http://www.ifsja.org

usmcdoc14 · 10-08-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.tech

they are right any thing that is not "hard core" on this site gets flamed. rough croud. this is a good site for reading about tech and building a rig. so read and search. also head over to www.ifsja.com they are awsome guys and it is a FSJ only site.

You gonna keep sending people to other boards or are you going to direct them to the newbie forum ? and try www.ifsja.org not .com

mayomc: first of its "dana" not "danna" and its not a dana 20 its an AMC 20

a dana 20 is a transfer case

mr.tech · 10-08-2005, 11:05 PM

oops.... I ment .org sorry.

Mo · 10-12-2005, 08:29 PM

JohnnyJ · 10-12-2005, 09:43 PM

It could be argued that the AMC 20 used in Wags/Cherokees/J-trucks is stronger than the Dana 44.

The weak axle is the stock CJ AMC 20 with its 2-piece axles, but the FSJ version uses 1pc axles like a Dana 44.

fullygruntled · 10-13-2005, 06:53 AM

As to how to build it stronger... gusset and stitch weld the tubes to the center section. That's about all that can or needs to be done.

Ted_Z · 10-13-2005, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayomc

I just bought this wagoneer to build it for my Hunting and fishing jeep, mountian use basicly. I think it has a danna 20. I have read that the Danna 20 Is not very strong. can I build it to be stronger? I am new at this so every Idea is very appreciated. I have a 3in body lift waiting to be put on and adding a 4in suspention lift. Body work is almost complete, cann't wait to hit it. thanks

The Dana 20 is a transfercase, the AMC 20 is a rear axle. Which are you asking about?

Both are plenty strong for your average hunting/trail ride. Like JonnyJ said the AMC 20 found in CJ's is the weak one.

-Ted
'76 Cherokee S

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ItsaCJ6 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6340 Location: Telluride CO, within site of of Black Bear Pass Posts: 3,929 Blog Entries: 10	If you want this to fish and hunt then leave it stock. Your 20 is fine. If you want to wheel, then delete this post and start reading. __________________ Marc In what appears to have been an understatement, the plant operator described the situation at the Number 4 reactor as "not so good." Super conversion calculator website Love and kisses, Zaphod..

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JohnnyJ Low Range Drifter Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7903 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 2,732	It could be argued that the AMC 20 used in Wags/Cherokees/J-trucks is stronger than the Dana 44. The weak axle is the stock CJ AMC 20 with its 2-piece axles, but the FSJ version uses 1pc axles like a Dana 44. __________________ DEAK Racing #715 TREC B / Ultra 4 Mod Class Rig Thanks to Drivetrain Specialists and PAC Racing Springs for your support

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fullygruntled Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9614 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 1,008	As to how to build it stronger... gusset and stitch weld the tubes to the center section. That's about all that can or needs to be done. __________________ Choose Life. Preferably Cinnamon. [url]http://McBob.TV[/url]

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10-08-2005, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
bowtied_micky Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52752 Location: The Ohio State Posts: 639	this is a very tough site. you are going to get your ass lit up with a rookie question like that. let your skin toughen up and deal with it. the majority of folks here want to know how to repair (or brag about) a busted d60 cuz they are that tough on their rigs. I would look to JU for any more basic question for your cherokee, if you want to do any mods I would look at bj's offroad. they have loads of stuff for that truck. ps this ain't tuesday micky

10-08-2005, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
mr.tech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44544 Posts: 421	they are right any thing that is not "hard core" on this site gets flamed. rough croud. this is a good site for reading about tech and building a rig. so read and search. also head over to www.ifsja.com they are awsome guys and it is a FSJ only site.

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mr.tech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44544 Posts: 421	oops.... I ment .org sorry.

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Mo Everyday is Tuesday. Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 47 Location: Lizzy, CO Posts: 15,650