NP231 shifter ,,, worth making? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

d.d.machine · 10-11-2005, 10:16 AM

I`m looking at make a run of shifters for the 231,207 and 242, but is there a market for them?

Thanks Duffy

IndyCJ · 10-11-2005, 10:28 AM

I dunno, what kind of shifters are we talking about? Any examples of what you have done previously, or ideas?

ksmith · 10-11-2005, 10:57 AM

novak already makes one ... I put one in, good stuff.

XJ_ranger · 10-11-2005, 11:02 AM

i like my stock one, but if you made a twinstick or something... - though with how the 231 shifts - i dont know how you would to that...

maybe make a T-case shifter and a Posilock fake twinstick?

Mr. 678 · 10-11-2005, 12:03 PM

I have one of these and it doesn't do squat.

I'm planning on making my own as I have a spare shifter, knob and other scrap. My biggest issue is the 3" body lift. But anything I do will have to allow for the case to come up with the installation of a flat skid plate.

It sounds like somthing I would consider, but I can't guarantee you a sale untill I know what my trouble to make it vs. price to buy it ratio is.

Dave

rokcrwlrtj · 10-12-2005, 02:00 AM

I have one figured out already to get rid of the stock peice of shit linkage. If you kit is similer to novaks but alot cheaper I would be interested.

It is not possible to twinsitck a 231 because the rear axle must be engaged in one range or the other to drive the front. The best you can hope for is 2-lo.

JEEPRZ · 10-12-2005, 06:08 AM

HIJACK: If you feel like making something new, how about a Dana 60 spindle boring tool. There was a recent thread on this in Gen 4x4. The current options are kinda spendy, IMO

currupt4130 · 10-12-2005, 09:24 AM

i need one that can be independant of the tranny. ive had problems getting my shifter stiff enough to shift reliably after putting in my np435. i could do some more work to it to make it attatch at a couple other points but its in such a tight spot with my drivetrain crammed all the way up that i just brace it with a crescent wrench when i shift it. i might be interested, let me know what your design is

yj-mule · 10-12-2005, 10:48 AM

Im definately interested depending on design and $$$.

I hate the linkage on the stock unit, and I have considered the Novak unit. I just havn't done it yet.

B.A.85XJ · 10-13-2005, 10:59 AM

I have used two of the the novak shifters; one on my 1989 YJ w/ TBI - SM420, and the other in my stock 1997 Grand. They both work awesome! Easy to install and I am very happy with the results. Especially for the price. I got so sick of laying under my Jeep in the mud, snow, or even dust and having to shift my cases manually.

JeffsJeep04 · 10-13-2005, 01:50 PM

I'd like to see one address the 2lo issue. When I put the 2 low kit in, 2lo and 4lo are so close, it's hard to quickly shift between them. If there was a detent for each, then you could keep it in 2wd and just throw in 4lo for an obstacle. Thoughts? Price ranges?

gripguru · 10-14-2005, 09:37 PM

I made my own out of what was lying around and played with the fulcrum point on the shift lever so that I could get a good feel for 2lo/4lo. Like stated, there is a competitor out right now that makes a great product, but if you got a welder and a grinder, you can make your own really easily.

rockstar · 10-15-2005, 11:57 AM

i would be interested in seeing a price on one. i of course would like to swap my 231 out for an atlas but that is not going to happen because of $$$ and i'm sick of my crappy stock 231 shifter. i say do it!

xtusseryx · 10-16-2005, 10:42 AM

I would be interested in a moderatley priced shifter. I have tossed around the idea of the Novak shifter but it costs to much for my budget.

ALMERAZ · 01-03-2010, 06:08 PM

Daffy did you make the shifters for 231????

Niceface · 01-03-2010, 06:35 PM

I'm currently in the market right now for a new shifter for my 231. I've looked at Novaks, and ....if I dont find anything else worth looking at I'll go that route.

Send me some info on what you have and I'd love to consider a different product. Though....the novak shifter does give you some competition.

Randyzzz · 01-03-2010, 09:03 PM

I built this one a few months back... works great. (Pay no attention to the cool temporary shift lever...)

I have used the Novak unit before too and it's a great product.

OkLaHoMaYJ · 01-04-2010, 01:28 PM

I would like to see a shifter setup for a flipped 231. I know you make the flipped shifters for a 300 so I would like to see what you can brew up for your doubler customers.

10-11-2005, 10:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
d.d.machine Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11168 Location: Poulsbo WA Posts: 1,166	NP231 shifter ,,, worth making? I`m looking at make a run of shifters for the 231,207 and 242, but is there a market for them? Thanks Duffy

10-11-2005, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. 678 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50965 Location: CO Posts: 31	I have one of these and it doesn't do squat. I'm planning on making my own as I have a spare shifter, knob and other scrap. My biggest issue is the 3" body lift. But anything I do will have to allow for the case to come up with the installation of a flat skid plate. It sounds like somthing I would consider, but I can't guarantee you a sale untill I know what my trouble to make it vs. price to buy it ratio is. Dave __________________ Jeepless

10-12-2005, 02:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
rokcrwlrtj Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27180 Location: Rifle, CO Posts: 745	I have one figured out already to get rid of the stock peice of shit linkage. If you kit is similer to novaks but alot cheaper I would be interested. It is not possible to twinsitck a 231 because the rear axle must be engaged in one range or the other to drive the front. The best you can hope for is 2-lo. __________________ Save Tellico Post 296 Last edited by rokcrwlrtj; 10-12-2005 at 02:02 AM.

10-12-2005, 06:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
JEEPRZ Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 784 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,436	HIJACK: If you feel like making something new, how about a Dana 60 spindle boring tool. There was a recent thread on this in Gen 4x4. The current options are kinda spendy, IMO __________________ Think for yourself

10-12-2005, 09:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
currupt4130 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39371 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 1,924	i need one that can be independant of the tranny. ive had problems getting my shifter stiff enough to shift reliably after putting in my np435. i could do some more work to it to make it attatch at a couple other points but its in such a tight spot with my drivetrain crammed all the way up that i just brace it with a crescent wrench when i shift it. i might be interested, let me know what your design is __________________ The mountains are calling and I must go. -John Muir

10-11-2005, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
IndyCJ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3645 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,874	I dunno, what kind of shifters are we talking about? Any examples of what you have done previously, or ideas?

10-11-2005, 10:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
ksmith Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47977 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 186	novak already makes one ... I put one in, good stuff.

10-12-2005, 10:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
yj-mule Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48153 Location: Concord, Ca Posts: 246	Im definately interested depending on design and $$$. I hate the linkage on the stock unit, and I have considered the Novak unit. I just havn't done it yet. __________________ Is:92 YJ 4.0 AX15 NP231 D30 D35 Will Be: 92 YJ 4.0 NP435 NP205 D60 14 bolt SOA waggy spr. [URL]http://www.rawsoftware.com/YJ-Mule/[/URL]

10-13-2005, 10:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
B.A.85XJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14501 Location: Logan, UT Posts: 38	I have used two of the the novak shifters; one on my 1989 YJ w/ TBI - SM420, and the other in my stock 1997 Grand. They both work awesome! Easy to install and I am very happy with the results. Especially for the price. I got so sick of laying under my Jeep in the mud, snow, or even dust and having to shift my cases manually.

10-13-2005, 01:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
JeffsJeep04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24475 Location: Menomonie, WI Posts: 1,142	I'd like to see one address the 2lo issue. When I put the 2 low kit in, 2lo and 4lo are so close, it's hard to quickly shift between them. If there was a detent for each, then you could keep it in 2wd and just throw in 4lo for an obstacle. Thoughts? Price ranges? __________________ 2000 WJ Limited 4.7 quadradrive

10-14-2005, 09:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
gripguru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15424 Location: Meridian ID Posts: 921	I made my own out of what was lying around and played with the fulcrum point on the shift lever so that I could get a good feel for 2lo/4lo. Like stated, there is a competitor out right now that makes a great product, but if you got a welder and a grinder, you can make your own really easily. __________________ 90YJ \| HDOR \| WEBILT \| ID4x4A

10-15-2005, 11:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
rockstar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39293 Posts: 56	i would be interested in seeing a price on one. i of course would like to swap my 231 out for an atlas but that is not going to happen because of $$$ and i'm sick of my crappy stock 231 shifter. i say do it!

10-16-2005, 10:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
xtusseryx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25437 Location: Corpus Christi, Tx Posts: 206	I would be interested in a moderatley priced shifter. I have tossed around the idea of the Novak shifter but it costs to much for my budget.

01-03-2010, 06:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
ALMERAZ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26410 Location: sana antonio tx. Posts: 54	231 shifter Daffy did you make the shifters for 231???? __________________ Midnight Four Wheelers Wheelers for the Wounded

01-03-2010, 06:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
Niceface We Don't Rent Pigs Join Date: Oct 2009 Member # 145369 Location: The Woodlands, Tx Posts: 287	I'm currently in the market right now for a new shifter for my 231. I've looked at Novaks, and ....if I dont find anything else worth looking at I'll go that route. Send me some info on what you have and I'd love to consider a different product. Though....the novak shifter does give you some competition.

01-03-2010, 09:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
Randyzzz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 109727 Location: Sisters, OR Posts: 165	I built this one a few months back... works great. (Pay no attention to the cool temporary shift lever...) I have used the Novak unit before too and it's a great product. Attached Images __________________ Randy S. It's not what you buy, it's what you build. 82 Scrambler 88 Grand Wagoneer 73 VW Bus

01-04-2010, 01:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
OkLaHoMaYJ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17969 Location: Denver Posts: 2,043	I would like to see a shifter setup for a flipped 231. I know you make the flipped shifters for a 300 so I would like to see what you can brew up for your doubler customers. __________________ 2012 F150 FX4 EcoBoost - Wanting a built LJ/JKUR

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