Waggy D44 help please!! - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

octane4brains · 10-12-2005, 02:52 PM

I did a search and not really getting a concistant conclusion. So Im gonna ask for help on something thats "been answered a 100,000,000 times".
I have, in my garage an 80's waggy d44 with vac,disc. It was free and its 99% chance of going on my 94 YJ, the d30 is'nt holding up to the way I drive and chances are it never will.
First I need to get the lug pattern from 6 lugs to 5 on 5.5 , that seems the way to my ford 8.8 (with the help of wheel spacers) and the d 44 to run the same wheel.
Second has any seen if the vacumme lines on the wrangler will run the disc. on the d44 like the d30? If not , what are my options? Can you get rid of the disc? Some of the threads said no some said yes.
Third there was the d44 bible somewhere on this board but I can't find it.Can I get a link from one of you. Just the same as every one else money is an issue, wife , two kid,new buisness,and too many hobbies. I dont mind used parts or even the pick and pull route, but I need help with what to look for.
THNX, REALLY I DO APPERICATE IT!!

jeepcrazie · 10-12-2005, 03:02 PM

You mean anything like this????

jeepcrazie · 10-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Pick a different line than this and your trusty d-30 may hold up a little longer!

Just razzin ya bro!
Take your time and build that 44 right. Just be a weeee bit easier on the poor 30.

octane4brains · 10-12-2005, 03:17 PM

Yea ,exactly like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey wait a minute where you there??? Finesse right!!

octane4brains · 10-12-2005, 03:21 PM

Pick a line ????? Whats a line?????

Ted_Z · 10-12-2005, 03:52 PM

To swap from 6 on 5.5" to 5 on 5.5 you'll need the following:

Front spindles from a 72-76 Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton (Blazer/Jimmy or 4x4 truck).
Hubs and rotors from a Ford dana 44 (not sure of the exact years, but its like 74-85, I used a 81 F150 when I did the swap).

Your calipers, backing plates and the rest of the hardware will come over. Best bet is to go to your local Pick-n-Pull to grab the parts, that way you can make sure the hub bearings match up.

-Ted
'76 Cherokee S

octane4brains · 10-12-2005, 04:11 PM

Thanx ted !! thats what I needed!!!

jeepfrk10 · 10-12-2005, 07:22 PM

yep...like ted said...i pulled mine off a early 80's ford bronco

Madbull · 10-13-2005, 06:50 AM

You can also have the waggy spindles machined down instead of trying to find new ones.

easyover · 10-13-2005, 08:48 AM

For the CAD, pull the cover and slide the collar over to engage the axle. Slide shift fork on cover into the engaged position, tac weld into place. Replace cover. Add lockout hubs. Simple......

Chato · 10-15-2005, 04:26 PM

Seems like everybody wants to buy something and the machine shops get neglected. I drilled my hubs and rotors on a six lug D-44 to go with the 5x5.5 pattern after removing the old studs. It was very inexpensive. We filled two of the old holes with weld just in case the new holes would be too close. Looking back we probably didn't have to do this. This caused me to have to get the rotors lathed so they would be true because they had heated up . It was an experiment. I did it about a year ago and have driven maybe 10,000 miles since then and they are still working fine. I had to buy new lug studs which I found at a bolts only type of store and used the old lug nuts.

Chato · 10-15-2005, 05:36 PM

Looking over my post I just thought of something: If I'm not mistaken a YJ doesn't have a 5X5.5 bolt pattern. It has a 5X5 so better measure before you start.

SubCultureNM · 10-16-2005, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chato

Looking over my post I just thought of something: If I'm not mistaken a YJ doesn't have a 5X5.5 bolt pattern. It has a 5X5 so better measure before you start.

YJs and TJs are 5x4.5 bolt pattern.

octane4brains · 10-17-2005, 01:20 PM

Thanxs for the help !!! I found this www.completeoffroad.comThey have all the goodies I needed and the prices were good! So for those who have used this axle , is it hold'en up??

10-12-2005, 02:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
octane4brains Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47229 Location: lake havasu Posts: 23	Waggy D44 help please!! I did a search and not really getting a concistant conclusion. So Im gonna ask for help on something thats "been answered a 100,000,000 times". I have, in my garage an 80's waggy d44 with vac,disc. It was free and its 99% chance of going on my 94 YJ, the d30 is'nt holding up to the way I drive and chances are it never will. First I need to get the lug pattern from 6 lugs to 5 on 5.5 , that seems the way to my ford 8.8 (with the help of wheel spacers) and the d 44 to run the same wheel. Second has any seen if the vacumme lines on the wrangler will run the disc. on the d44 like the d30? If not , what are my options? Can you get rid of the disc? Some of the threads said no some said yes. Third there was the d44 bible somewhere on this board but I can't find it.Can I get a link from one of you. Just the same as every one else money is an issue, wife , two kid,new buisness,and too many hobbies. I dont mind used parts or even the pick and pull route, but I need help with what to look for. THNX, REALLY I DO APPERICATE IT!! __________________ [SIZE=5]BIG BOATS[/SIZE][SIZE=3],B[/SIZE][SIZE=4]E[/SIZE][SIZE=3]N[/SIZE][SIZE=2]T[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=2]E[/SIZE][SIZE=5]E[/SIZE][SIZE=4]P[/SIZE][SIZE=3]S[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]AND[/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna]DIRTY GALS[/COLOR]

10-12-2005, 03:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
jeepcrazie Paying for others Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38032 Location: LEWYSVILLE Posts: 1,035	You mean anything like this???? Attached Images __________________ Shady Lady VIP #13

10-12-2005, 03:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
jeepcrazie Paying for others Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38032 Location: LEWYSVILLE Posts: 1,035	Pick a different line than this and your trusty d-30 may hold up a little longer! Just razzin ya bro! Take your time and build that 44 right. Just be a weeee bit easier on the poor 30. Attached Images __________________ Shady Lady VIP #13

10-12-2005, 03:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
octane4brains Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47229 Location: lake havasu Posts: 23	Yea ,exactly like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey wait a minute where you there??? Finesse right!! __________________ [SIZE=5]BIG BOATS[/SIZE][SIZE=3],B[/SIZE][SIZE=4]E[/SIZE][SIZE=3]N[/SIZE][SIZE=2]T[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=2]E[/SIZE][SIZE=5]E[/SIZE][SIZE=4]P[/SIZE][SIZE=3]S[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]AND[/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna]DIRTY GALS[/COLOR] Last edited by octane4brains; 10-12-2005 at 03:18 PM.

10-12-2005, 03:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
octane4brains Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47229 Location: lake havasu Posts: 23	Pick a line ????? Whats a line????? __________________ [SIZE=5]BIG BOATS[/SIZE][SIZE=3],B[/SIZE][SIZE=4]E[/SIZE][SIZE=3]N[/SIZE][SIZE=2]T[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=2]E[/SIZE][SIZE=5]E[/SIZE][SIZE=4]P[/SIZE][SIZE=3]S[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]AND[/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna]DIRTY GALS[/COLOR]

10-12-2005, 03:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ted_Z Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55441 Posts: 10	To swap from 6 on 5.5" to 5 on 5.5 you'll need the following: Front spindles from a 72-76 Chevy/GMC 1/2 ton (Blazer/Jimmy or 4x4 truck). Hubs and rotors from a Ford dana 44 (not sure of the exact years, but its like 74-85, I used a 81 F150 when I did the swap). Your calipers, backing plates and the rest of the hardware will come over. Best bet is to go to your local Pick-n-Pull to grab the parts, that way you can make sure the hub bearings match up. -Ted '76 Cherokee S

10-12-2005, 04:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
octane4brains Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47229 Location: lake havasu Posts: 23	Thanx ted !! thats what I needed!!! __________________ [SIZE=5]BIG BOATS[/SIZE][SIZE=3],B[/SIZE][SIZE=4]E[/SIZE][SIZE=3]N[/SIZE][SIZE=2]T[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=2]E[/SIZE][SIZE=5]E[/SIZE][SIZE=4]P[/SIZE][SIZE=3]S[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]AND[/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna]DIRTY GALS[/COLOR]

10-12-2005, 07:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
jeepfrk10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37420 Posts: 8	yep...like ted said...i pulled mine off a early 80's ford bronco

10-13-2005, 06:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Madbull Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 45282 Location: GA Posts: 26	You can also have the waggy spindles machined down instead of trying to find new ones. __________________ [URL=http://www.ontherock4x4.com]OnTheRock4x4[/URL]

10-13-2005, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
easyover Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33520 Location: Arizona Posts: 88	For the CAD, pull the cover and slide the collar over to engage the axle. Slide shift fork on cover into the engaged position, tac weld into place. Replace cover. Add lockout hubs. Simple......

10-15-2005, 04:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chato Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 40958 Location: Guatemala Posts: 237	Seems like everybody wants to buy something and the machine shops get neglected. I drilled my hubs and rotors on a six lug D-44 to go with the 5x5.5 pattern after removing the old studs. It was very inexpensive. We filled two of the old holes with weld just in case the new holes would be too close. Looking back we probably didn't have to do this. This caused me to have to get the rotors lathed so they would be true because they had heated up . It was an experiment. I did it about a year ago and have driven maybe 10,000 miles since then and they are still working fine. I had to buy new lug studs which I found at a bolts only type of store and used the old lug nuts.

10-15-2005, 05:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chato Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 40958 Location: Guatemala Posts: 237	Looking over my post I just thought of something: If I'm not mistaken a YJ doesn't have a 5X5.5 bolt pattern. It has a 5X5 so better measure before you start.

10-17-2005, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
octane4brains Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47229 Location: lake havasu Posts: 23	Thanxs for the help !!! I found this www.completeoffroad.comThey have all the goodies I needed and the prices were good! So for those who have used this axle , is it hold'en up?? __________________ [SIZE=5]BIG BOATS[/SIZE][SIZE=3],B[/SIZE][SIZE=4]E[/SIZE][SIZE=3]N[/SIZE][SIZE=2]T[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=2]E[/SIZE][SIZE=5]E[/SIZE][SIZE=4]P[/SIZE][SIZE=3]S[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]AND[/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna]DIRTY GALS[/COLOR] Last edited by octane4brains; 10-17-2005 at 01:23 PM.

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