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brobii · 10-20-2005, 05:19 AM

Which would you recomend. As it stands right now, I'm not looking to do hardcore rock crawling, but that could all change so I want to be prepared for the future. What should I be looking at and why?

Jeepman14wheel · 10-20-2005, 05:54 AM

I have the same issue of what to run, I just figure that I will run D60 to be on the safe side!

Daltongp · 10-20-2005, 06:27 AM

If you have the money, go D60. You'll just kick yourself later for not doing it.

JEEPRZ · 10-20-2005, 06:39 AM

I voted 'other'. You already have a geared and locked front 44, with 33" tires. A D60 or 609 is overkill for that, even with a V8. A 35 spline D44 is a waste.

If your going to stick to smallerish tires, keep what you have, or upgrade the shafts. If you plan on significantly larger tires, go 609

NE-RokToy · 10-20-2005, 08:06 AM

throw some alloy shafts and aftermarket U-joints in the front and I wouldnt fear running it with 37's, expecially if your not into serious rock crawling.

brobii · 10-20-2005, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEEPRZ

I voted 'other'. You already have a geared and locked front 44, with 33" tires. A D60 or 609 is overkill for that, even with a V8. A 35 spline D44 is a waste.

If your going to stick to smallerish tires, keep what you have, or upgrade the shafts. If you plan on significantly larger tires, go 609

Why is the 35 spline D44 a waste if the only 44 size components would be the diff and gears? Not criticizing, just want to be educated.

brobii · 10-20-2005, 05:52 PM

Only 12 votes? Also when my 33's wear out I'll be looking at 35's unless I get swayed to go bigger.

bowtied_micky · 10-20-2005, 07:40 PM

there is no such thing as overkill. I would look at a d60 for the rear and sell/trade + $$$ your d44 for a front d60, atleast do a d44 up front.

micky

brobii · 10-20-2005, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowtied_micky

there is no such thing as overkill. I would look at a d60 for the rear and sell/trade + $$$ your d44 for a front d60, atleast do a d44 up front.

micky

Huh?

Nor Cal Jeep · 10-20-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brobii

Huh?

Yea what the fuck, boggles my mind.

JEEPRZ · 10-21-2005, 06:27 AM

In order to use 35 spline shafts in the 44, you would have to get D60 outers. If your going to do that either run the 60 or a 609

I think bowtie_micky is the one with the boggled mind

SPEEDCRAVIN · 10-21-2005, 07:48 AM

Im going to say its going to come down to your pocket book. If you are looking into the future (what ever that may have in store for you)? You will want to buy the best yo can afford at the time. If what you can afford is not what you want then save some more. If you make sure you but a quality part and dont do any Booty fab then it should do you well, what ever you choose.

I have a Chevy 60 front end and it came with 35 outers and I have been very happy. I have a good buddy that has a Waggy 44 and at times I know he wishs he would have went with a 60 but it is reliable and he still hangs with the best of them.

JOSH

brobii · 10-21-2005, 09:31 PM

Looks like the D60 is the favorite

desertsport · 10-21-2005, 10:37 PM

If I had the money Id go D60's. I wish I never spent the money on my 44\30. If I only knew then what I knew now, It just makes me sick.

yj-mule · 10-21-2005, 10:49 PM

I would go D60 78-79 Ford F250 have D60's that supposedly pop right into a YJ. You could spend money on alloy parts for your D44, or put a stock D60 in their. According to the articles I read about the 35 spline D44 stuff its making your D44 as strong as a 60.

Personally (if that is really the case, I would have to look into it more before making my final decision) I would rather throw the money into a stock D60, and in the future put money into strengthening the D60.

jeeepguy · 10-21-2005, 11:15 PM

If you have a truehi9 in the rear, why not put one in the front too?!?!

brobii · 10-22-2005, 07:26 AM

That would be in the hybrid 609.Definately thought about it.

SPEEDCRAVIN · 10-22-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yj-mule

I would go D60 78-79 Ford F250 have D60's that supposedly pop right into a YJ. You could spend money on alloy parts for your D44, or put a stock D60 in their. According to the articles I read about the 35 spline D44 stuff its making your D44 as strong as a 60.

Personally (if that is really the case, I would have to look into it more before making my final decision) I would rather throw the money into a stock D60, and in the future put money into strengthening the D60.

No not as strong as a 60, you can ask my buddy that breaks d44 ring/pinions with just a 4.56 gear.

My 60 has 4.88 and are not as week as the d44.

although 35 spline upgrade is just that a good upgrade for the weeker axel.

JOSH

yj-mule · 10-22-2005, 10:12 AM

thanks for the info SPEEDCRAVIN. Always glad to hear from experience, not advertising.

brobii · 10-23-2005, 07:32 PM

anyone want to buy a d44?

View Poll Results: which option and why
upgrade front d44 to 35 spline components-check sig	4	11.43%
hybrid 609 front	9	25.71%
D60	20	57.14%
other	2	5.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

10-20-2005, 05:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
brobii Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29774 Location: Lehigh Valley PA Posts: 85	lookin' to the future Which would you recomend. As it stands right now, I'm not looking to do hardcore rock crawling, but that could all change so I want to be prepared for the future. What should I be looking at and why? __________________ 89YJ, 94LT1-700R4, flipped D300, Dual Optimas, Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator, York OBA, 35x12.5x15's, hp44/ARB, TrueHi9/35spline ARB, SOA.

10-20-2005, 06:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
JEEPRZ Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 784 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,436	I voted 'other'. You already have a geared and locked front 44, with 33" tires. A D60 or 609 is overkill for that, even with a V8. A 35 spline D44 is a waste. If your going to stick to smallerish tires, keep what you have, or upgrade the shafts. If you plan on significantly larger tires, go 609 __________________ Think for yourself

10-20-2005, 08:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
NE-RokToy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 62 Location: Omaha NE Posts: 5,992	throw some alloy shafts and aftermarket U-joints in the front and I wouldnt fear running it with 37's, expecially if your not into serious rock crawling. __________________ Jeff Neves

10-20-2005, 05:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
brobii Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29774 Location: Lehigh Valley PA Posts: 85	Only 12 votes? Also when my 33's wear out I'll be looking at 35's unless I get swayed to go bigger. __________________ 89YJ, 94LT1-700R4, flipped D300, Dual Optimas, Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator, York OBA, 35x12.5x15's, hp44/ARB, TrueHi9/35spline ARB, SOA.

10-20-2005, 05:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jeepman14wheel US NAVY Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 46071 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,759	I have the same issue of what to run, I just figure that I will run D60 to be on the safe side!

10-20-2005, 06:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Daltongp Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 32810 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 119	If you have the money, go D60. You'll just kick yourself later for not doing it.

10-20-2005, 07:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
bowtied_micky Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52752 Location: The Ohio State Posts: 639	there is no such thing as overkill. I would look at a d60 for the rear and sell/trade + $$$ your d44 for a front d60, atleast do a d44 up front. micky

10-21-2005, 06:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
JEEPRZ Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 784 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,436	In order to use 35 spline shafts in the 44, you would have to get D60 outers. If your going to do that either run the 60 or a 609 I think bowtie_micky is the one with the boggled mind __________________ Think for yourself

10-21-2005, 07:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
SPEEDCRAVIN Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 30432 Location: Dallas Texas Again! Posts: 1,640	Im going to say its going to come down to your pocket book. If you are looking into the future (what ever that may have in store for you)? You will want to buy the best yo can afford at the time. If what you can afford is not what you want then save some more. If you make sure you but a quality part and dont do any Booty fab then it should do you well, what ever you choose. I have a Chevy 60 front end and it came with 35 outers and I have been very happy. I have a good buddy that has a Waggy 44 and at times I know he wishs he would have went with a 60 but it is reliable and he still hangs with the best of them. JOSH __________________ SHOP AND APPARTMENT FOR SALE [url]http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589523[/url]

10-21-2005, 09:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
brobii Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29774 Location: Lehigh Valley PA Posts: 85	Looks like the D60 is the favorite __________________ 89YJ, 94LT1-700R4, flipped D300, Dual Optimas, Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator, York OBA, 35x12.5x15's, hp44/ARB, TrueHi9/35spline ARB, SOA.

10-21-2005, 10:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
desertsport Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 39627 Location: Pirate4x4 Posts: 505	If I had the money Id go D60's. I wish I never spent the money on my 44\30. If I only knew then what I knew now, It just makes me sick. __________________ 35 MTR'S, ALLOY SHAFTS, ARB FRONT AND REAR,4.56

10-21-2005, 10:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
yj-mule Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48153 Location: Concord, Ca Posts: 246	I would go D60 78-79 Ford F250 have D60's that supposedly pop right into a YJ. You could spend money on alloy parts for your D44, or put a stock D60 in their. According to the articles I read about the 35 spline D44 stuff its making your D44 as strong as a 60. Personally (if that is really the case, I would have to look into it more before making my final decision) I would rather throw the money into a stock D60, and in the future put money into strengthening the D60. __________________ Is:92 YJ 4.0 AX15 NP231 D30 D35 Will Be: 92 YJ 4.0 NP435 NP205 D60 14 bolt SOA waggy spr. [URL]http://www.rawsoftware.com/YJ-Mule/[/URL] Last edited by yj-mule; 10-21-2005 at 10:49 PM.

10-21-2005, 11:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
jeeepguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52575 Posts: 13	If you have a truehi9 in the rear, why not put one in the front too?!?!

10-22-2005, 07:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
brobii Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29774 Location: Lehigh Valley PA Posts: 85	That would be in the hybrid 609.Definately thought about it. __________________ 89YJ, 94LT1-700R4, flipped D300, Dual Optimas, Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator, York OBA, 35x12.5x15's, hp44/ARB, TrueHi9/35spline ARB, SOA.

10-22-2005, 10:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
yj-mule Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48153 Location: Concord, Ca Posts: 246	thanks for the info SPEEDCRAVIN. Always glad to hear from experience, not advertising. __________________ Is:92 YJ 4.0 AX15 NP231 D30 D35 Will Be: 92 YJ 4.0 NP435 NP205 D60 14 bolt SOA waggy spr. [URL]http://www.rawsoftware.com/YJ-Mule/[/URL]

10-23-2005, 07:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
brobii Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29774 Location: Lehigh Valley PA Posts: 85	anyone want to buy a d44? __________________ 89YJ, 94LT1-700R4, flipped D300, Dual Optimas, Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator, York OBA, 35x12.5x15's, hp44/ARB, TrueHi9/35spline ARB, SOA.

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