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Old 10-21-2005, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Shackle angle on new springs

I know that this has probably been covered, but I have some questions.

I just installed my new RE5515 4" lift springs on my YJ. I took a look at the shackle angle and low and behold the shackles are actually pointing back towards the tires. Probably like 5 degrees.

What in the hell did I do wrong? Did I get the wrong springs? Do they "flatten" out with some time??

This worries me because I am going wheeling on Saturday and do not want to f*&k anything up. Should I be worried? I searched, but came up empty.

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The only thing that came to my mind while reading this was to lower the jack. But u probably already did that so i have no advice.
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did you put the weight on the springs before tightening the bolts.. the vehicle needsz to be resting on th eground before tightening the leaf/shackle bolts... and only to about 35 ft/lbs....
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Be worried...

I have the same problem on mine, but my shackles point straight down. I can't tell you how to fix it, (still have not fixed mine becuase of lack of time)but be worried.

I bashed my shackle on a rock and bent it backwards. That arched up the spring giving me no articulation whatsoever. Unaware that I did that, on the next obstacle, i brought my front tire up on another boulder and flopped my jeep over on it's side.

My rig has had the shackle at that angle for quite a while and it has never leveled out.
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Try putting boomerang shackles on the front that might help.
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did you put the weight on the springs before tightening the bolts.. the vehicle needsz to be resting on th eground before tightening the leaf/shackle bolts... and only to about 35 ft/lbs....
Not only did I set the vehicle weight on it, I had my family climb in so that the standard weight would be on the vehicle. I did tighten to 35 ft/lbs, and the u-bolts to 80 (as per instructions).

I still do not understand what I did wrong. RE said that this was the correct spring length, but I can not understand why they are so short?! Maybe I will call them again. They ride nice, but the shackle angle is concerning me.

Anymore help would be greatly appreciated.
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Try putting boomerang shackles on the front that might help.
No it won't. Boomerangs do precisely nothing for shackle angle. You could also try S shaped shackles, or pretzel shaped, or anything else you want, but your shackle angle will remain the same provided the distance between bolt holes is the same.
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That was my thought. Will longer shackles help or hinder, or make any difference at all??
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No it won't. Boomerangs do precisely nothing for shackle angle. You could also try S shaped shackles, or pretzel shaped, or anything else you want, but your shackle angle will remain the same provided the distance between bolt holes is the same.
Thats corect Crusty. It does not matter what shackle you use. Shackle angle is the angle that is from the spring hanger bolt and the spring bolt.

The only thing that is going to change the angle on Shooters jeep is going the be the spring its self or the arch of said spring.

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What's an RE5515? It doesn't show up on the RE web site...? Just looking for specs. Sounds like it's a good inch too short.

Can you measure the spring, eye to eye, along it's arch and post the length? A YJ spring should be 45" or maybe a little more with that much arch.
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I will do that when I get home tonight. I will probably skip wheeling till this gets resolved. (I will measure tonight)
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Old 10-22-2005, 05:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Did the shackles point oppisite of the tires before the spring install?
Sounds like the springs are a little shorter.
I think that with the shackles with correct angle(bottom of shackle pointing oppisite of tires) would give better flex and ride.
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Well, I did run them today, and they ran fine. They are set at 90 degrees up and down. I think they did well. I am going to do a write up on them here in a bit.
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