H1 Wheels on CJ5

[christhesav]

I am looking to put h1 wheels on my CJ5. i am running 14 bolt and dana 60. will these wheels fit without hitting my drums in the rear? what issues will i run into if any? thanks

[Benzz0]

well they are the same bolt pattern and the H1's have larger brakes OEM so I don't think you will have a problem...

what brakes are you running now?

[Kreep]

The rear should be fine, I ran them on a Dana 70 rear for a while. You may hit the tie rod in front unless you run a spacer, on my Dana 44 front I needed a 1.5" spacer to clear.

[christhesav]

I am just running stock drum brakes in the rear right now, but i am planning on running disk brakes soon.

[Kreep]

They are 16.5 inch wheels so they should clear your calipers fine. The 7 inch back spacing can be an issue on the front though.

Also, since the wheel is 8.25" wide (9.25" overall) only 2.25" of wheel covers the hubs so they are vulnerable to some serious rock hits.

[sodaboyYJ]

You should generaly expect the front rims to hit the tie rod ends.


Hey Benzz0, H1's have inboard brakes, it's the portal box that lives in the huge backspacing.... not the brakes.

[Benzz0]

Originally Posted by sodaboyYJ

hey Benzz0, H1's have inboard brakes, it's the portal box that lives in the huge backspacing.... not the brakes.

you know after I had a couple more cups of coffee that came to mind



meh....those wheels will work dude and whateveryoneelse said about the front may be an issue

[christhesav]

what are people doing to keep the wheel away from tie rod ends in the front? i am planning on running hi steer arms.

[sodaboyYJ]

Originally Posted by christhesav

what are people doing to keep the wheel away from tie rod ends in the front? i am planning on running hi steer arms.

Buy the proper hi steer arms! Several companys have great arms that will easily clear the rims. I chose WFO HD double ended arms, not only do they look sweet, they allow you to run the tie rod behind and above the axle.

[sodaboyYJ]

Originally Posted by Benzz0

you know after I had a couple more cups of coffee that came to mind



meh....those wheels will work dude and whateveryoneelse said about the front may be an issue

No worries, I only metioned it as a point of clearity, wasn't trying to bust yer balls

[guffey24]

The stock location of the tie rod on the dana 60 will not work with the H1 wheels. If you do have a 60 front

here is what I did on my CJ-7, cut the stock tierod locations off with a sawzall about 2" back on the knuckle, grind them down kinda rounded off

I got 2 hy-steer arms from Aaron at www.harshterrain.com

they are offset and specially made for the hummer rims, on my arms I had 2 holes drilled for the large 1 ton tre's used on the Chevy, dodge 1 ton axles

this moved my tierod up over top of the axle and Keeps it safe from rocks, or safer. If you use the stock tierod it will need to be shortened to compensate for the offset hy-steer arms

I used the big tre's for the draglink too, If you do this you will need to replace your pitman arm with a waggy pitman arm, It is beefier and can be drilled for the big tre

[Phantom1016]

You can use stock tierod location with DRW hubs, but that opens up a new can of worms

x2 on cutting stock steering arm and going to hi steer

[christhesav]

thanks for the info

[christhesav]

does anyone have any pictures of their steering set up with their h1 wheels?

[guffey24]

I will post some in the morning

[sodaboyYJ]

Admittedly, these are pretty dark, but hopefully you'll be able to get the point

[MCgiver4x4]

Originally Posted by sodaboyYJ

Buy or build the proper hi steer arms!

ive have done it

same setup ford 78 hp d60 in front

14 bolts rear first with drums now with disks

h1 8 bolts

[guffey24]

wanted to add another thing on the H1's, and steering issues

I didnt want to put the tierod up and behind the axle because of oil pan issues, so I put it up and forward

my only option was to move the steering box forward 1.5 inches

[mbatvburg]

Is that pic the location of the draglink before moving the box forward? What pitman arm are you running? 3/4 or 1 ton TRE's?

sorry for all the questions. Just reading up before i tear into mine

[guffey24]

Originally Posted by mbatvburg

Is that pic the location of the draglink before moving the box forward? What pitman arm are you running? 3/4 or 1 ton TRE's?

sorry for all the questions. Just reading up before i tear into mine

that pic is before the box was moved forward

the tre's are 1 ton, If you decide to use 1 ton tre's use a waggy pitman arm, it will fit on a CJ power steering box

reason for using the waggy arm, is because it is overall bigger especially on the end where the tre hooks

using a 1 ton tre, the end of the pitman arm will have to be tapered, I didnt feel there was enough material on the end of the stock CJ arm to taper it for the 1 ton tre, it would have been a weak point

[KILLERxj16]

What about running H1 wheels on a D44?

[guffey24]

Originally Posted by KILLERxj16

What about running H1 wheels on a D44?

the D44, you would have to find some 8 lug hubs for it, or find someone to recenter the Hummer wheels to 6 lug or whatever you have

[Kreep]

I've run stock and recentered H1 wheels on an 8 lug D44 front. You need about a 1.5" spacer to clear the TRE on the stock wheel. I think you would have to move the steering behind the axle to use a hi-steer setup.