78 F250 D44...knuckles - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

FlatBlackXJ · 12-17-2006, 07:28 PM

Are the knuckles on a 78 F250 8 lug D44 flattops? The driver side appears to be, but what about the passenger side?

Im removing the tubes and moving the pumpkin to passenger side for my CJ. What should I run for outers and brakes?

IROK Cherokee · 12-17-2006, 08:14 PM

Yes it's a fat top. Mine is a '79, but the same axle. If you run these knuckles, you are stuck with the outers, wich isn't bad, big brake wise, but you have to run 16" or bigger rims.

Tomb Raider · 12-17-2006, 09:25 PM

Just picked mine up last week. Yes, they are both flat tops.

FlatBlackXJ · 12-18-2006, 06:50 PM

Alright I was positive they were but just wanted to make sure, but if I use these knuckles and run the Ford outers, do I have to run 8 lug wheels?

Nordic1 · 12-18-2006, 07:02 PM

My pass side f250 D44 was not a flat top but the driver's side was

IROK Cherokee · 12-18-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlatBlackXJ

Alright I was positive they were but just wanted to make sure, but if I use these knuckles and run the Ford outers, do I have to run 8 lug wheels?

Yes you do have to run the entire Ford outer if you run these knuckles.

FlatBlackXJ · 12-18-2006, 08:58 PM

So if I want to run a 5 on 5.5 bp, what do you recommend?

YJTypeR · 12-18-2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomb Raider

Just picked mine up last week. Yes, they are both flat tops.

You're lucky that arm was removed, those conical washers + 30 years of rust = huge PITA!

Mine had flat tops on both sides as well.

WATERKNIFE · 12-18-2006, 09:13 PM

Knuckle, spindle, rotor, hub swap from any solid 44 will work. Best part is those spindles are worth $$. Good luck

FlatBlackXJ · 12-19-2006, 09:17 PM

So if I want hi-steer and a 5 on 5.5 bp i need an aftermarket flattop or ?

Murfman · 12-20-2006, 05:08 PM

small bearing spindle and knuckle and outer from Blazer or pickup from mid to late 70s will work with Ford brakes and rotors.

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html

Best site out there for D44 and flat tops.

FlatBlackXJ · 12-20-2006, 05:59 PM

Ok heres another question for you. Im retubing the 44, moving the pumpkin to passenger side and want to run waggy width. The rearend is an XJ 44 going under my CJ so I want it to be around that width. So Im thinking about getting alloys to begin with and then carrying waggy axles as spares. Would I run the FSJ knuckle to be able to use the waggy outer? This is the part that confuses the hell out of me.

WATERKNIFE · 12-20-2006, 07:56 PM

You might run into driveline issues with a high pinion in a CJ depending on your lift height, I would narrow a chevy 44 to waggy width and run junkyard waggy axels. Much cheaper, and easier. Depending on your tire size you can break alot of 12 dollar axel shafts and still be under the budget of a retubed HP44.

5 on 5.5 Ford hub, chev BP, caliper and small bearing spindle, with flat top chev or jeep knuckle is the outer combo I have used in the past. Worked great. Good Luck.

FlatBlackXJ · 12-21-2006, 04:19 PM

Ill check into finding a Chevy 44..and tagging this in my favorites for some valuable info.

SonoraBob · 12-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Find yourself a wagoneer 44, with the diff on the right side. Then you just have to shorten one side to make it stock length. Then use the GM flat tops with the early small bearing spindles as previously mentioned. Then get the big GM mounting plate like from a Suburban, and calipers. Then get the Ford 1/2 ton rotor and hub. You will get 5 on 5-1/2. That's what I did.

12-17-2006, 07:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	78 F250 D44...knuckles Are the knuckles on a 78 F250 8 lug D44 flattops? The driver side appears to be, but what about the passenger side? Im removing the tubes and moving the pumpkin to passenger side for my CJ. What should I run for outers and brakes?

12-17-2006, 08:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
IROK Cherokee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77718 Location: Preskitt Posts: 1,097	Yes it's a fat top. Mine is a '79, but the same axle. If you run these knuckles, you are stuck with the outers, wich isn't bad, big brake wise, but you have to run 16" or bigger rims. __________________ '89 B2 with slight modifications [QUOTE=AZFord4x4;8084876] I really shouldn't download so much porn while I'm trying to ban people.[/QUOTE]

12-18-2006, 09:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
WATERKNIFE Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83941 Location: SPOKANE WA Posts: 164	Knuckle, spindle, rotor, hub swap from any solid 44 will work. Best part is those spindles are worth $$. Good luck Last edited by WATERKNIFE; 12-18-2006 at 09:14 PM.

12-20-2006, 05:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
Murfman Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11973 Location: Colorado Springs, Co Posts: 573	small bearing spindle and knuckle and outer from Blazer or pickup from mid to late 70s will work with Ford brakes and rotors. http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html Best site out there for D44 and flat tops. __________________ Only in a Jeep

12-21-2006, 08:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
SonoraBob Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 116 Location: Sonora, CA Posts: 1,949	Find yourself a wagoneer 44, with the diff on the right side. Then you just have to shorten one side to make it stock length. Then use the GM flat tops with the early small bearing spindles as previously mentioned. Then get the big GM mounting plate like from a Suburban, and calipers. Then get the Ford 1/2 ton rotor and hub. You will get 5 on 5-1/2. That's what I did. __________________ "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - M. Thatcher

12-17-2006, 09:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tomb Raider Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 68382 Location: Missouri Posts: 554	Just picked mine up last week. Yes, they are both flat tops.

12-18-2006, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	Alright I was positive they were but just wanted to make sure, but if I use these knuckles and run the Ford outers, do I have to run 8 lug wheels?

12-18-2006, 07:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nordic1 Rotten Sperm Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63386 Location: Chico, Ca Posts: 1,847	My pass side f250 D44 was not a flat top but the driver's side was

12-18-2006, 08:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	So if I want to run a 5 on 5.5 bp, what do you recommend?

12-19-2006, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	So if I want hi-steer and a 5 on 5.5 bp i need an aftermarket flattop or ?

12-20-2006, 05:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	Ok heres another question for you. Im retubing the 44, moving the pumpkin to passenger side and want to run waggy width. The rearend is an XJ 44 going under my CJ so I want it to be around that width. So Im thinking about getting alloys to begin with and then carrying waggy axles as spares. Would I run the FSJ knuckle to be able to use the waggy outer? This is the part that confuses the hell out of me.

12-20-2006, 07:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
WATERKNIFE Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83941 Location: SPOKANE WA Posts: 164	You might run into driveline issues with a high pinion in a CJ depending on your lift height, I would narrow a chevy 44 to waggy width and run junkyard waggy axels. Much cheaper, and easier. Depending on your tire size you can break alot of 12 dollar axel shafts and still be under the budget of a retubed HP44. 5 on 5.5 Ford hub, chev BP, caliper and small bearing spindle, with flat top chev or jeep knuckle is the outer combo I have used in the past. Worked great. Good Luck.

12-21-2006, 04:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
FlatBlackXJ NOBAMA! Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 68916 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 359	Ill check into finding a Chevy 44..and tagging this in my favorites for some valuable info.

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