Tie rod flip on Dana 30 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

kmj153 · 03-21-2007, 02:08 PM

Anyone ever flip there tie rod on their Dana 30? I am going to do it this weekend and I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion or tips?

elarsen · 03-21-2007, 02:19 PM

CJ 30 or newer?

kmj153 · 03-21-2007, 03:02 PM

it is for a 90 YJ. SUA

totaled_tj · 03-21-2007, 03:13 PM

dont waste your time it's gona break anyhow.

Knuckelhead · 03-21-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totaled_tj

dont waste your time it's gona break anyhow.

Nope. Use an insert...

totaled_tj · 03-21-2007, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckelhead

Nope. Use an insert...

an insert aint gona help the gears, it's gona scatter anyways!! upgrade then worry bout the steering

Knuckelhead · 03-22-2007, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totaled_tj

an insert aint gona help the gears, it's gona scatter anyways!! upgrade then worry bout the steering

It all depends on what you have and how you wheel it…

matts88yj · 03-22-2007, 06:23 AM

X2 with what Knuckelhead said. Not everyone has to have Dana 60's. Not saying I wouldn't want one but you get my point. Wheel it smart and you will be safe.

totaled_tj · 03-22-2007, 01:34 PM

i duno, mine broke in the snow. i didnt give it any throttle it broke just letin the clutch out! the only way i can see a 30 lasting longer is stock gears. the pinion just gets to small. if you guys are on leafs it aint that hard to swap to a 44.

Knuckelhead · 03-22-2007, 01:48 PM

I'm going on 3 years with 456's and 35" tires...

totaled_tj · 03-22-2007, 02:39 PM

thats cool, if it works for ya.mine broke every 3 months 33s 35s and 37s. my friends lasted about 4 months with 34s with a automatic. the only place mine never broke was in the sand.

geberhard · 03-22-2007, 03:10 PM

so what topic are we ytalking here again? Let's kinda focus back on the question, his question is not that a dana 30 is a POS or if it will break.

Honestly teh tie rod flip is a good benefit. I did it a while back, and basically you can just ream or drill and use inserts. gained a few inches clearance, what was not bad. I used a grand Cherokee V8 (ZJ) tie-rod draglink at the same time, a bit more beef. All in all not a bad way to polish the turd.

I think I got the inserts from someone here, jeepaholics, or another place, about $10 for the pair.

more info:

http://www.jeepfan.com/review_retieflip.htm

yotaboyz · 03-22-2007, 03:12 PM

I am here to say I don't care what you wheel you can break. And I don't care how much money you sink into one you WILL break. It all depends on how you wheel. If you wheel with your foot and not your head you will break. Take care of your 30 and 35 and it will take care of you. I will say though that the stock form w/35's isn't a D60 but it will get you where you want to go.

Throw some small upgrades in the diffs and again use your head when you wheel it will be fine.

Oh yeah don't try to go where your friend is going with his built rig!

yotaboyz · 03-22-2007, 03:14 PM

sorry your right.

I was looking into doing something like that to get a little more clearance but I want to also beef it up a little. I will keep up to see how it turned out.

Knuckelhead · 03-23-2007, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geberhard

I used a grand Cherokee V8 (ZJ) tie-rod draglink at the same time, a bit more beef.

I thought that tie rod was beefier but the draglink was the same part number as the TJ one? I ran that setup for awhile.
If he wants to do some fabrication, installing the WJ conversion might work for him.

Better brakes.

Even better with an HPd30…

wranglerwilson · 03-23-2007, 07:57 AM

Works good,gets it well out of harms way.If you have leaf springs with SOA you may have the tie rod hitting the springs.

jkirisits · 03-23-2007, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wranglerwilson

Works good,gets it well out of harms way.If you have leaf springs with SOA you may have the tie rod hitting the springs.

i have the WJ conversion, 2.5BDS lift, spring over. I could not flip the tie rod, it hits the springs.

leftlanetrucking · 03-23-2007, 08:53 PM

when i went soa, i flipped the tie rods, then made new draglink/connecting bar out of dom and got the weld in bungs/jambnuts from mountain offroad.
works great, just watch the connecting bar to spring clearance.
my 30 has the chromo's, arb, etc etc and never had an issue with it myself, on 37's with a bored 4.3/700r4.
all depends on how/what you wheel in...
martin

packnrat · 03-23-2007, 10:31 PM

just ream out the holes in the knuckles from the top down to handle a chevy 1/2 tie rod, then using dom tubing make the cross tube, and only ream out from the bottom on your drag link, same chevy tie rod. remember left and right threads.

only problem here is you must run spring under only.

GPERX4 · 03-24-2007, 04:42 AM

http://www.terrainstompers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41

03-21-2007, 02:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
kmj153 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71376 Location: Bel Air MD Posts: 118	Tie rod flip on Dana 30 Anyone ever flip there tie rod on their Dana 30? I am going to do it this weekend and I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion or tips? Last edited by kmj153; 03-21-2007 at 02:09 PM.

03-21-2007, 03:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
totaled_tj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88189 Location: Brookings OR Posts: 23	dont waste your time it's gona break anyhow. __________________ Foodstamp Motorsports

03-22-2007, 06:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
matts88yj Rock God Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 62615 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 1,121	X2 with what Knuckelhead said. Not everyone has to have Dana 60's. Not saying I wouldn't want one but you get my point. Wheel it smart and you will be safe. __________________ Unstacking Hardass

03-22-2007, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
totaled_tj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88189 Location: Brookings OR Posts: 23	i duno, mine broke in the snow. i didnt give it any throttle it broke just letin the clutch out! the only way i can see a 30 lasting longer is stock gears. the pinion just gets to small. if you guys are on leafs it aint that hard to swap to a 44. __________________ Foodstamp Motorsports Last edited by totaled_tj; 03-22-2007 at 01:35 PM.

03-22-2007, 01:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Knuckelhead Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 68171 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,731	I'm going on 3 years with 456's and 35" tires... __________________ Knuckelhead

03-21-2007, 02:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
elarsen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18320 Location: Lake County Posts: 1,113	CJ 30 or newer?

03-21-2007, 03:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
kmj153 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71376 Location: Bel Air MD Posts: 118	it is for a 90 YJ. SUA

03-22-2007, 02:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
totaled_tj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88189 Location: Brookings OR Posts: 23	thats cool, if it works for ya.mine broke every 3 months 33s 35s and 37s. my friends lasted about 4 months with 34s with a automatic. the only place mine never broke was in the sand. __________________ Foodstamp Motorsports

03-22-2007, 03:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
geberhard Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5861 Location: California Posts: 8,491	so what topic are we ytalking here again? Let's kinda focus back on the question, his question is not that a dana 30 is a POS or if it will break. Honestly teh tie rod flip is a good benefit. I did it a while back, and basically you can just ream or drill and use inserts. gained a few inches clearance, what was not bad. I used a grand Cherokee V8 (ZJ) tie-rod draglink at the same time, a bit more beef. All in all not a bad way to polish the turd. I think I got the inserts from someone here, jeepaholics, or another place, about $10 for the pair. more info: http://www.jeepfan.com/review_retieflip.htm __________________ Help us cure kids cancer! Shave for the cause :) Tips on how to build your Jeep bigger! New build, daily driver TJ on 44" rubbers Project hot 40 year old Last edited by geberhard; 03-22-2007 at 03:10 PM.

03-22-2007, 03:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
yotaboyz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35837 Location: Columbia, TN Posts: 208	I am here to say I don't care what you wheel you can break. And I don't care how much money you sink into one you WILL break. It all depends on how you wheel. If you wheel with your foot and not your head you will break. Take care of your 30 and 35 and it will take care of you. I will say though that the stock form w/35's isn't a D60 but it will get you where you want to go. Throw some small upgrades in the diffs and again use your head when you wheel it will be fine. Oh yeah don't try to go where your friend is going with his built rig! __________________ [QUOTE=corkey;6564156]Well what I'm wanting to do is lift my jeep up about 3.5 or 4 inches. I was wondering if anyone has ever used pressure treated lumber. Any suggestion on this would be appreciated. :jeep:[/QUOTE]

03-22-2007, 03:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
yotaboyz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35837 Location: Columbia, TN Posts: 208	sorry your right. I was looking into doing something like that to get a little more clearance but I want to also beef it up a little. I will keep up to see how it turned out. __________________ [QUOTE=corkey;6564156]Well what I'm wanting to do is lift my jeep up about 3.5 or 4 inches. I was wondering if anyone has ever used pressure treated lumber. Any suggestion on this would be appreciated. :jeep:[/QUOTE]

03-23-2007, 07:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
wranglerwilson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 87682 Posts: 600	Works good,gets it well out of harms way.If you have leaf springs with SOA you may have the tie rod hitting the springs.

03-23-2007, 08:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
leftlanetrucking Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77226 Location: Mo. Posts: 144	when i went soa, i flipped the tie rods, then made new draglink/connecting bar out of dom and got the weld in bungs/jambnuts from mountain offroad. works great, just watch the connecting bar to spring clearance. my 30 has the chromo's, arb, etc etc and never had an issue with it myself, on 37's with a bored 4.3/700r4. all depends on how/what you wheel in... martin

03-23-2007, 10:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
packnrat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31529 Posts: 564	tie rod flip just ream out the holes in the knuckles from the top down to handle a chevy 1/2 tie rod, then using dom tubing make the cross tube, and only ream out from the bottom on your drag link, same chevy tie rod. remember left and right threads. only problem here is you must run spring under only.

03-24-2007, 04:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
GPERX4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12414 Posts: 775	http://www.terrainstompers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41 __________________ Team Devil Frogg Kettering, Ohio

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