Tj Vs Yj - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Jeeplord88 · 08-27-2007, 10:39 PM

My friend is looking to buy a jeep. He was asking me what were the main differences of TJ & YJ. (I have a YJ so I don't know much about TJs)

Major Difference I see is that TJ has Coil susp. and has bit more tire clearance. (Then theres the round lights and the better looking dashboard

)

Does it make a huge difference to have Coil when wheeling?

Is it worth spending more money so u can have a Coil spring (and coil ready) susp?

I know if I were to convert my YJ to a Coil system I would have to spend minimum 2k.

any comments would be appreciated. thx

Syd07 · 08-27-2007, 11:39 PM

It depends on what kind of wheeling your doing. You can make leafs work just as well as coils for a hell of alot cheaper. But if your friends not mechanicaly inclined he might be better off with a TJ. My YJ with 4" springs kicked my friends 4" lifted TJ's ass everywhere we went. But we dont have rocks if we did things would have been different.

Im a YJ fan and i find some things on the TJ to be quirky like...
the 2 piece steering shaft
trany/body mounted t-case shafter
transfercase sprockets not having bearings lol

And some other things i cant think of off the top of my head... Just small things that are not that big of a deal. Tell you friend to go look at both and pick the one he likes best.

hperiman · 08-27-2007, 11:57 PM

YJs stick to the KISS principle, and are cheaper to purchase and mod.
My $0.02

Gibson · 08-28-2007, 12:15 AM

YJs never came with dana 44s but chevy moter swaps are easyer

KVOM · 08-28-2007, 04:46 AM

If it's going to be a DD then a TJ will ride better and be more comfortable.

Jeeplord88 · 08-28-2007, 10:19 PM

What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?

Syd07 · 08-28-2007, 10:51 PM

Why bother? Buy a TJ

RoCkSkuLLz · 08-29-2007, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeplord88

What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?

how many people do you see running this kit...? theres a reason why.

geberhard · 08-29-2007, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibson

YJs never came with dana 44s but chevy moter swaps are easyer

Hmmm I bought a Canadian YJ witha stock 44

I am partial to YJ's for simplicity, and less electrical stuff to deal with, but the TJ's are comfy. All depends of his plans, budget, etc.

crusty1007 · 08-29-2007, 11:10 AM

I have 2 TJs and a YJ, I like the YJ. The Yj is not near as tempermental to loose suspension, tire issues as the TJs (If you go TJ get to know the term "Death Wobble")
The YJ is cheap to work on & simple.

offroadjunkie · 08-29-2007, 11:29 AM

tell him to look at the price of lift kits... damn theres a difference

KiGrind · 08-29-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hperiman

YJs stick to the KISS principle, and are cheaper to purchase and mod.
My $0.02

That is the worst kiss example for a jeep, ever!

But thats just cause it so damn cool.

Its purty....

Little Jeep · 08-29-2007, 06:12 PM

If it's going to be a DD, the TJ is probably a better choice. There are more TJ's with 4.oL than YJ's with the 4.0L..... if that is a factor to you.

Jeeplord88 · 08-29-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Jeep

If it's going to be a DD, the TJ is probably a better choice. There are more TJ's with 4.oL than YJ's with the 4.0L..... if that is a factor to you.

I am not letting him buy a 2.5

I think he will use it everyday for driving in the city.

It seems like the suspension (coil vs leaf) is not a huge fact.

I don't know if he would say HE must have the round lights LOL

PizzaFarno · 08-29-2007, 09:42 PM

I think it depends on what the guys doing. If he wants something simple, go with the cj or the yj. If he wants something better on rocks and more comfy, go with the tj. Personally, i like the 4.2 better than the 4.0, of course if you fuel inject it and put headers on, but thats my opinion. The problem with the yj is that it comes stock with the 35 in the rear. Thats why a cj is better axle wise, because if the model 20 is one pieced, it is pretty comparable to a 44.

Little Jeep · 08-30-2007, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeplord88

I am not letting him buy a 2.5

I think he will use it everyday for driving in the city.

It seems like the suspension (coil vs leaf) is not a huge fact.

I don't know if he would say HE must have the round lights LOL

In my mind, this is a slam dunk. Since he will be driving it daily as a commute vehicle, the TJ is the only choice. Nothing wrong with CJ except their age and that they may not be a reliable vehicle for DD. Nothing wrong with YJ's except the TJ takes care of the creature comforts better and the TJ's are newer, therefore maybe more reliable for DD. Also, for what a CJ sells for, you can get an older TJ.

Scotch740 · 08-30-2007, 01:42 PM

IF its his only vehicle he might look at an Unlimited. Mine being my only transportation I am extremely happy with the added space. At first I didn't think I could afford such a new jeep but after crunching some numbers it became an option since I only plan to buy one jeep for myself, and I had to take out a loan either way. Either way a coil will provide a better on road ride, and from my somewhat limited wheeling it seams to keep all 4s on the ground better than a leaf sprung jeep.

Jeeplord88 · 08-30-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PizzaFarno

I think it depends on what the guys doing. If he wants something simple, go with the cj or the yj. If he wants something better on rocks and more comfy, go with the tj. Personally, i like the 4.2 better than the 4.0, of course if you fuel inject it and put headers on, but thats my opinion. The problem with the yj is that it comes stock with the 35 in the rear. Thats why a cj is better axle wise, because if the model 20 is one pieced, it is pretty comparable to a 44.

What year(s) got the 4.2?

Jeeplord88 · 08-30-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Jeep

In my mind, this is a slam dunk. Since he will be driving it daily as a commute vehicle, the TJ is the only choice. Nothing wrong with CJ except their age and that they may not be a reliable vehicle for DD. Nothing wrong with YJ's except the TJ takes care of the creature comforts better and the TJ's are newer, therefore maybe more reliable for DD. Also, for what a CJ sells for, you can get an older TJ.

TY...

I drive my YJ everyday.. just a bit bumpy.. but thats what jeeps do..

solarpower · 08-30-2007, 09:06 PM

If he wants to DD it a TJ is a no brainer. CD players are standard in +03 models.

If he wants to wheel it...find whatever does not have a D35.

milfordjeeper · 08-30-2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeplord88

What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?

if ur thinking of a coil conversion. get a clayton kit. by far one of the best out there

ARB_jon · 08-30-2007, 10:34 PM

tjs are just kooler

but to build a cheap offroad rig yjs are the way to got by far. the tjs got alot more complication with the creature comforts .

Jeeplord88 · 08-31-2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milfordjeeper

if ur thinking of a coil conversion. get a clayton kit. by far one of the best out there

Thanks.

Do you have more info on this conv. kit? I might do it to mine..

do you think the 4wheelparts stores might have them?

TeenyCAR · 08-31-2007, 11:10 PM

I like the YJ's as they have less stuff to have to cut off for building a suspension.

wiggamoe · 09-01-2007, 09:39 PM

It is my opinion that YJs achieve a perfect balance between the CJ and TJ. Unlike the CJ you will get a bit more comfort, a stronger frame and a fuel injected engine. Unlike the TJ you will get a much more basic suspension, and a dash that doesn't look like the dash of my Corolla. EVERYTHING for a YJ that has an equivalent part for a TJ is cheaper. From the cost of a new soft top, to a lift kit, the YJ is cheaper. The only downside to a YJ is the Dana 35, but with the money saved by purchasing a YJ, you will be able to put a locked 8.8 in the rear. DON'T get a 4.2, they suck! Anything that isn't fuel injected sucks. Try to find a 91 or newer YJ 4.0/AX15. Lastly, don't get a 2.5L, both the engine and the transmission suck.

08-27-2007, 10:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jeeplord88 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 97829 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 67	Tj Vs Yj My friend is looking to buy a jeep. He was asking me what were the main differences of TJ & YJ. (I have a YJ so I don't know much about TJs) Major Difference I see is that TJ has Coil susp. and has bit more tire clearance. (Then theres the round lights and the better looking dashboard ) Does it make a huge difference to have Coil when wheeling? Is it worth spending more money so u can have a Coil spring (and coil ready) susp? I know if I were to convert my YJ to a Coil system I would have to spend minimum 2k. any comments would be appreciated. thx

08-27-2007, 11:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Syd07 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 78674 Posts: 9	It depends on what kind of wheeling your doing. You can make leafs work just as well as coils for a hell of alot cheaper. But if your friends not mechanicaly inclined he might be better off with a TJ. My YJ with 4" springs kicked my friends 4" lifted TJ's ass everywhere we went. But we dont have rocks if we did things would have been different. Im a YJ fan and i find some things on the TJ to be quirky like... the 2 piece steering shaft trany/body mounted t-case shafter transfercase sprockets not having bearings lol And some other things i cant think of off the top of my head... Just small things that are not that big of a deal. Tell you friend to go look at both and pick the one he likes best. Last edited by Syd07; 08-27-2007 at 11:39 PM.

08-27-2007, 11:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
hperiman Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 84283 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 254	YJs stick to the KISS principle, and are cheaper to purchase and mod. My $0.02 Attached Images __________________ Point Man

08-28-2007, 12:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gibson Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 94562 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 162	YJs never came with dana 44s but chevy moter swaps are easyer __________________ The United States of America July 4, 1776 - November 4, 2008 RIP

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KVOM Wheeler Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36715 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 258	If it's going to be a DD then a TJ will ride better and be more comfortable. __________________ 97 TJ Buggy 2002 Ford F350 7.3PSD CC LB

08-28-2007, 10:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jeeplord88 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 97829 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 67	Procomp Coil conversion What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?

08-28-2007, 10:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Syd07 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 78674 Posts: 9	Why bother? Buy a TJ

08-29-2007, 11:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
crusty1007 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47826 Location: PISMO BEACH Posts: 1,052	I have 2 TJs and a YJ, I like the YJ. The Yj is not near as tempermental to loose suspension, tire issues as the TJs (If you go TJ get to know the term "Death Wobble") The YJ is cheap to work on & simple. __________________ Thean Bellocchi [URL="www.polyperformance.com"]www.[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]oly[COLOR="Red"][B]P[/B][/COLOR]erformance.com[/URL] [email]Thean@PolyPerformance.com[/email]

08-29-2007, 11:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
offroadjunkie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80641 Location: Lincoln, Ca/Denver, Co Posts: 1,302	tell him to look at the price of lift kits... damn theres a difference __________________ [QUOTE=beater82;10779355]You should try patriotism. That stuff can fuck some shit up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=DillWeed;9324924]Kid... you are looking for a dance club and you stumbled into an old school tavern full of mean drunks...Run for your life.[/QUOTE] 1990 yj, 44/60, d300, howell FI- sold

08-29-2007, 06:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
Little Jeep Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 58117 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,414	If it's going to be a DD, the TJ is probably a better choice. There are more TJ's with 4.oL than YJ's with the 4.0L..... if that is a factor to you.

08-29-2007, 09:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
PizzaFarno Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77245 Location: Missouri Posts: 386	I think it depends on what the guys doing. If he wants something simple, go with the cj or the yj. If he wants something better on rocks and more comfy, go with the tj. Personally, i like the 4.2 better than the 4.0, of course if you fuel inject it and put headers on, but thats my opinion. The problem with the yj is that it comes stock with the 35 in the rear. Thats why a cj is better axle wise, because if the model 20 is one pieced, it is pretty comparable to a 44. __________________ 1984 Cj-7,Currie 9" rear,Waggy dana 44,35's,4.56,fuel injected Inline 4.2,AGR steering, dana 300,t18

08-30-2007, 01:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
Scotch740 Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44974 Location: Norfolk VA Posts: 383	IF its his only vehicle he might look at an Unlimited. Mine being my only transportation I am extremely happy with the added space. At first I didn't think I could afford such a new jeep but after crunching some numbers it became an option since I only plan to buy one jeep for myself, and I had to take out a loan either way. Either way a coil will provide a better on road ride, and from my somewhat limited wheeling it seams to keep all 4s on the ground better than a leaf sprung jeep.

08-30-2007, 09:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
solarpower Wheeler Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47722 Location: Toledo O-H-I-O Posts: 252	If he wants to DD it a TJ is a no brainer. CD players are standard in +03 models. If he wants to wheel it...find whatever does not have a D35. __________________ Professional Driver. Closed course.

08-30-2007, 10:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
ARB_jon Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 87159 Location: Mobile,AL Posts: 273	tjs are just kooler but to build a cheap offroad rig yjs are the way to got by far. the tjs got alot more complication with the creature comforts . __________________ 97TJ/4.0/ax15/231,300/44spool/8.8welded/4.10/36" iroks www.lockitupoffroad.net/jong.html

08-31-2007, 11:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
TeenyCAR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63225 Posts: 1,511	I like the YJ's as they have less stuff to have to cut off for building a suspension.

09-01-2007, 09:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
wiggamoe Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33498 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 680	It is my opinion that YJs achieve a perfect balance between the CJ and TJ. Unlike the CJ you will get a bit more comfort, a stronger frame and a fuel injected engine. Unlike the TJ you will get a much more basic suspension, and a dash that doesn't look like the dash of my Corolla. EVERYTHING for a YJ that has an equivalent part for a TJ is cheaper. From the cost of a new soft top, to a lift kit, the YJ is cheaper. The only downside to a YJ is the Dana 35, but with the money saved by purchasing a YJ, you will be able to put a locked 8.8 in the rear. DON'T get a 4.2, they suck! Anything that isn't fuel injected sucks. Try to find a 91 or newer YJ 4.0/AX15. Lastly, don't get a 2.5L, both the engine and the transmission suck.

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