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Jeepernick · 12-21-2007, 12:57 PM

On avg...

How much(length) do you need? <-- biggest question (I only plan to make the order once, my plan was to order 5 sticks(20ft a stick, total of 100ft) is 100ft enough or is it over kill... I want a strong cage...but I also dont want a godly cage)

What dim 1.25" or 1.5? is 1.25 big enough... DOM tubing btw

What inner wall?

Spex:

Full bodied XJ

Ordering 1.25x? or 1.5x? DOM

I have been searching around and no one seems to give the layout of matterials it takes to make it... reason for asking these questions... and yes I have every tool and more to construct a cage

Thanks

rockrknockr · 12-21-2007, 01:02 PM

why can't you draw-up a "rough" idea of what you want to build, then grab a pocket tape and get a "rough" total dim of shit you need, then add on a factor for waste and any errors you make make.......kinda like what i always do when i am gonna fab some cage

btwn 1.25 and 1.5, i would go 1.5 for sure. wall thickness would be .1875 (3/16) if DOM. that's what i would use.

Jeepernick · 12-21-2007, 04:17 PM

Thanks for the great advice... I have it all layed out and well Im just not smart enough to use a tape measure LOL jk

I was just hoping someone already had a general idea... but I think it would be smart to just lay it out on the jeep and take measurements

5.2Krawler · 12-21-2007, 04:45 PM

I don't think 100 ft will be enough. When factoring waste remember that it come in 20ft sticks and you dont wan't to splice together five 1-2ft pieces. 1.5 would be a min

rockrknockr · 12-21-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeepernick

Thanks for the great advice... I have it all layed out and well Im just not smart enough to use a tape measure LOL jk

I was just hoping someone already had a general idea... but I think it would be smart to just lay it out on the jeep and take measurements

yeah and no XJ exo is gonna be the same design so the length of tube will will vary.

it would be sweet if your "plan" worked and only have to make one order of tube and you use every last inch of it with absolutely no waste and none left over...........................pipe dream

good luck and have fun

Jeepernick · 12-21-2007, 09:56 PM

I know what you mean and I know there is a lot of waste/left over

A few of us are buying about 400ft. I paying for 100Ft and Im sure there will be plenty left over for the extra parts(bracing, gussets, ect) BUT I guess I will pay for 150ft, first going to do a lot of measuring and find out what I really need.

The only way we have been able to find DOM is buying it in bulk. no one around here will sell it by the stick. I buy everything else from them by the stick, just not DOM.(Dont know why, just the way they are)

I almost just went with HREW, but the guy that is going to help me do the bends(aka owns a hydro bender) said that shit is a waste of money...Which I know it is, I just didnt know how to get DOM and I didnt want to buy 400Ft for just me. I would never use that much tubing.

Anyways... Thanks for the advice... I will plan it out this weekend and hoping soon we will order all the tubing.

I have some super cool ideas for the cage, I will post it up as I go along im sure

rockrknockr · 12-22-2007, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeepernick

I know what you mean and I know there is a lot of waste/left over

A few of us are buying about 400ft. I paying for 100Ft and Im sure there will be plenty left over for the extra parts(bracing, gussets, ect) BUT I guess I will pay for 150ft, first going to do a lot of measuring and find out what I really need.

The only way we have been able to find DOM is buying it in bulk. no one around here will sell it by the stick. I buy everything else from them by the stick, just not DOM.(Dont know why, just the way they are)

I almost just went with HREW, but the guy that is going to help me do the bends(aka owns a hydro bender) said that shit is a waste of money...Which I know it is, I just didnt know how to get DOM and I didnt want to buy 400Ft for just me. I would never use that much tubing.

Anyways... Thanks for the advice... I will plan it out this weekend and hoping soon we will order all the tubing.

I have some super cool ideas for the cage, I will post it up as I go along im sure

sounds cool.yeah it can't hurt to have some extra in the garage for little projects in the future. you will be glad you have it when the time comes. beats the shit out of locating some etc when you have this project you really want to do but don't have the material.

good luck, have FUN

Jeepernick · 12-22-2007, 11:06 AM

that the project I want to do now and havent got a single foot of it

Ya it is like a one shot deal... or we would have to do another round of metal together

We have to order at least 400FT.... im beginning to hate ordering metal

I think we desided to order 500FT+, we are going to put all are measurements together this weekend and start throwing money at the pot

I think we may end up getting 600 because one of the dudes is tubing a 4runner

resqme · 12-22-2007, 07:57 PM

Where do you live? I can buy it by the foot if I want...

kyle · 12-22-2007, 08:24 PM

I use 1 3/4" on everything. 1 1/2" is pretty small to be taking hits like an exo will...

Jeepernick · 12-22-2007, 09:02 PM

Really by the foot...

I wish I could at least get it by the stick

I live in Oregon

1.5 is fine for me and if anything I would go smaller not bigger... I dont plan to roll my rig, nor will I test it in the parking lot out side my shop LOL

mattyj · 12-22-2007, 09:08 PM

i used 8 20' sticks of 1.5" .120 wall. Had about 10 feet of off cuts left over. That was for a complete exo & internal b & c lateral support bars.

Poison Arrow · 12-22-2007, 09:22 PM

A hundred feet of tubing won't go nearly as far as one would think. and exo's use a lot more than an interior cage. Here's one I recently did and it's well over 100' closer to 150'-170' I can't remember now. Plus you need to plan your cuts carefully so you can keep your longer sections one piece.

OregonYO · 02-19-2008, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeepernick

Really by the foot...

I wish I could at least get it by the stick

I live in Oregon

1.5 is fine for me and if anything I would go smaller not bigger... I dont plan to roll my rig, nor will I test it in the parking lot out side my shop LOL

Swift steel in redmond OR sells DOM by the foot.

Jeepernick · 02-19-2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OregonYO

Swift steel in redmond OR sells DOM by the foot.

problem is i live in scappoose

but thanks, i will give them a call it may be worth the drive

12-21-2007, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jeepernick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45462 Posts: 277	Exo cages... tubing questions On avg... How much(length) do you need? <-- biggest question (I only plan to make the order once, my plan was to order 5 sticks(20ft a stick, total of 100ft) is 100ft enough or is it over kill... I want a strong cage...but I also dont want a godly cage) What dim 1.25" or 1.5? is 1.25 big enough... DOM tubing btw What inner wall? Spex: Full bodied XJ Ordering 1.25x? or 1.5x? DOM I have been searching around and no one seems to give the layout of matterials it takes to make it... reason for asking these questions... and yes I have every tool and more to construct a cage Thanks

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Poison Arrow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 97851 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 150	A hundred feet of tubing won't go nearly as far as one would think. and exo's use a lot more than an interior cage. Here's one I recently did and it's well over 100' closer to 150'-170' I can't remember now. Plus you need to plan your cuts carefully so you can keep your longer sections one piece. __________________ [B]U4WDA MEMBER[/B] Due to unforseen situations I'm moving to the northern Nevada area, not sure where I'm going to live or work but I'll figure it out. Suggestions are welcome. [B][COLOR="Lime"]FNG @ Shaffer's Off Road[/COLOR][/B] [URL="http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606072"]Project M.U.T.T.[/URL] My current build ... Sold! [URL="http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=616957"]"Lost Samurai"[/URL] [URL="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=25249589"]Myspace[/URL] Last edited by Poison Arrow; 12-22-2007 at 09:26 PM.

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12-21-2007, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
rockrknockr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 90393 Location: tucson Posts: 1,478	why can't you draw-up a "rough" idea of what you want to build, then grab a pocket tape and get a "rough" total dim of shit you need, then add on a factor for waste and any errors you make make.......kinda like what i always do when i am gonna fab some cage btwn 1.25 and 1.5, i would go 1.5 for sure. wall thickness would be .1875 (3/16) if DOM. that's what i would use.

12-21-2007, 04:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jeepernick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45462 Posts: 277	Thanks for the great advice... I have it all layed out and well Im just not smart enough to use a tape measure LOL jk I was just hoping someone already had a general idea... but I think it would be smart to just lay it out on the jeep and take measurements

12-21-2007, 04:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
5.2Krawler Wheeler Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 51185 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 255	I don't think 100 ft will be enough. When factoring waste remember that it come in 20ft sticks and you dont wan't to splice together five 1-2ft pieces. 1.5 would be a min

12-21-2007, 09:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jeepernick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45462 Posts: 277	I know what you mean and I know there is a lot of waste/left over A few of us are buying about 400ft. I paying for 100Ft and Im sure there will be plenty left over for the extra parts(bracing, gussets, ect) BUT I guess I will pay for 150ft, first going to do a lot of measuring and find out what I really need. The only way we have been able to find DOM is buying it in bulk. no one around here will sell it by the stick. I buy everything else from them by the stick, just not DOM.(Dont know why, just the way they are) I almost just went with HREW, but the guy that is going to help me do the bends(aka owns a hydro bender) said that shit is a waste of money...Which I know it is, I just didnt know how to get DOM and I didnt want to buy 400Ft for just me. I would never use that much tubing. Anyways... Thanks for the advice... I will plan it out this weekend and hoping soon we will order all the tubing. I have some super cool ideas for the cage, I will post it up as I go along im sure

12-22-2007, 11:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jeepernick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45462 Posts: 277	that the project I want to do now and havent got a single foot of it Ya it is like a one shot deal... or we would have to do another round of metal together We have to order at least 400FT.... im beginning to hate ordering metal I think we desided to order 500FT+, we are going to put all are measurements together this weekend and start throwing money at the pot I think we may end up getting 600 because one of the dudes is tubing a 4runner

12-22-2007, 08:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
kyle Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1044 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 988	I use 1 3/4" on everything. 1 1/2" is pretty small to be taking hits like an exo will...

12-22-2007, 09:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jeepernick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Member # 45462 Posts: 277	Really by the foot... I wish I could at least get it by the stick I live in Oregon 1.5 is fine for me and if anything I would go smaller not bigger... I dont plan to roll my rig, nor will I test it in the parking lot out side my shop LOL

12-22-2007, 09:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
mattyj Granite Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89901 Location: Mapleton, UT Posts: 630	i used 8 20' sticks of 1.5" .120 wall. Had about 10 feet of off cuts left over. That was for a complete exo & internal b & c lateral support bars.