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Old 03-25-2008, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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links and travel

Making the move to coil overs. My 3/4 link exceeds what coils can do. Is there any real world benefit of 16" CO's over 14" CO's? I know 2" more travel.
But is the amount of work needed to make 16's fit worth 2" more travel? what are real world numbers for travel on a TJ? Either way it's going to have 3" up. I'd just end up with 11 or 13 down.

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I'm guessing the size coil overs people are using is classified info?
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by tilting or mounting the coilovers at a slight angle you can more then 16'' of travel out of a 14'' coilover. Read billvistas article in the coilover bible, as it explains it rather well. Thus mounting position can add to suspension travel. The 14'' and 16'' of the actual shock travel will only directly correlate to suspension travel if the coilover are mounted vertical.
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by tilting or mounting the coilovers at a slight angle you can more then 16'' of travel out of a 14'' coilover. Read billvistas article in the coilover bible, as it explains it rather well. Thus mounting position can add to suspension travel. The 14'' and 16'' of the actual shock travel will only directly correlate to suspension travel if the coilover are mounted vertical.
I know the tricks to coil mounting. That's not the question.
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Is working for the extra 2" of travel worth it? It can be made up in mounts and the like. But assume is a vertical mounting on the front of a TJ.
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by tilting or mounting the coilovers at a slight angle you can more then 16'' of travel out of a 14'' coilover. Read billvistas article in the coilover bible, as it explains it rather well. Thus mounting position can add to suspension travel. The 14'' and 16'' of the actual shock travel will only directly correlate to suspension travel if the coilover are mounted vertical.
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Mounting your shocks at different angles will help with more flex

Just keep in mind that the higher the angle, the less effective the dampener will be

So || will dampen better than /\ but /\ will outflex ||

I'll see if I can fish up some pics when I am not in class
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I'm apperantly not able to put to words what I'm thinking.

Jeep TJ, front shock, verticle instalation. A 14" CO will go in without cutting the fenders and moving a lot of engine crap. A 16" CO can be made to fit. Is there a benefit to all the work other than the 2" of travel? does having 13" of down make that much of a difference over 11" of down?
What real world diference will the extra 2" make?

Don't make any assumptions about the question please. It is what it is.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am facing the same thing right now- - - I am buying Co's in the next day or two and still have not made up my mind on 14's or 16's -- - seem like alot of work involved for just 2 inches.... lets here your thoughts--- mine is a daily driver -- but I still get down in the rocks - - which way should I go.
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I would think having 2'' more travel would make a difference. Flex is over rated on the trail. Balance of flex and stability is more important than RTI busting flex, IMO.
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Yep, top secret. Then again the concept might be too deep for the PBB
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Pat, you should go wheeling with me sometime. I share the same principals as you do as far as lift height and drivetrain tricks. Long live the D30 with big tires.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the 2", since your 4 link rear will probably pick up the slack. Not to mention the more stealth it will be. Do you run a sway bar offroad? If you do, then you definately won't notice.

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I have 16" Fox coil overs. It is more work to mount them, I had to cut my rear tub and extend the front upper links into engine compartment.

As far as I'm concerned I have way to much flex, but thats how I like it. I sit pretty high but with only 4" up travel I can stuff my 37s into to fenders.
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