Just got a TJ this morning, what should I do to it??

[IN$OMNIAC]

I've traded my monster 4wheeler for a lightly modded 1999 Jeep TJ, its a 4cyl, 5 speed, has 4.88 gears, 4" pro comp lift, 3" body lift, slip yoke eliminators, warn bumpers, 15x10 rockcrawler wheels, and 34x10.5x15 Super Swamper LTBs.

I like it but I want more hard core I want to go more "rockcrawler" with this one I've got a huge mud truck so I don't need another one of those. So what should I do? I'd rather not do an engine swap, and the axles have brand new 4.88s in them so it would be a shame to pull them out right away. What I'm asking is what should I do to it to make it a capable offroad "pirate acceptable" rig(still driven on the streets to the local trails). I'm hoping for tube fenders, comp cut crusher corners, rocker gaurds, rock hoop bumpers, a snorkel, lockers, and much wider tires! What meats can I get away with on those stock axles under mild wheeling. I would love to get some pictures of examples too.
Thanx,

[ItsaCJ6]

Read all the faq's and come back

[dzntzhellfire]

loose the 3" BL, the 4cyl, the t/c drop (if it has SYE it dont need that anyway) loose the PC control arms, and thats just a start


dont worry fawkers this is getting lowered 2-3" very soon,

[YJ_and_Corey]

Perhaps burn it and collect the insurance?

Either that or use it to make a German sex film - that's about as "hardcore" as a 4 cylinder Jeep will ever be.

[erik415]

4 link it front and rear, coilovers, 14bff/hp60, small block, manual (with a granny low, it's fun to shift) with a 203/205 doubler (or an atlas). stretched wheel base, comp cut fenders. full cage tied to frame.

and LOSE THE BODY LIFT!

deal with it, you'll want all that eventually so why not just do it now?

[IN$OMNIAC]

Originally Posted by YJ_and_Corey

Perhaps burn it and collect the insurance?

Either that or use it to make a German sex film - that's about as "hardcore" as a 4 cylinder Jeep will ever be.

Thanks guy...

[IN$OMNIAC]

Originally Posted by erik415

4 link it front and rear, coilovers, 14bff/hp60, small block, manual (with a granny low, it's fun to shift) with a 203/205 doubler (or an atlas). stretched wheel base, comp cut fenders. full cage tied to frame.

and LOSE THE BODY LIFT!

deal with it, you'll want all that eventually so why not just do it now?

Sounds like fun..

[Blue1TonYJ]

x3 remove the body lift. Check out www.floridajeepers.net

[336wheeler]

The first thing you should do is go four wheeling and beat the shit out of it. Once you break that semi-float D35, or something else, and have to do trail repairs in BFE, you'll want to go "hardcore" with it. Out of my personal experience, it won't be simple upgrades... but something that you know won't break. (For a while at least)

ORRRR

Just put some real axles under it to start with. Unless you go wheeling in grass fields.

[crandall]

Originally Posted by IN$OMNIAC

I've traded my monster 4wheeler for a lightly modded 1999 Jeep TJ, its a 4cyl, 5 speed, has 4.88 gears, 4" pro comp lift, 3" body lift, slip yoke eliminators, warn bumpers, 15x10 rockcrawler wheels, and 34x10.5x15 Super Swamper LTBs.

I like it but I want more hard core I want to go more "rockcrawler" with this one I've got a huge mud truck so I don't need another one of those. So what should I do? I'd rather not do an engine swap, and the axles have brand new 4.88s in them so it would be a shame to pull them out right away. What I'm asking is what should I do to it to make it a capable offroad "pirate acceptable" rig(still driven on the streets to the local trails). I'm hoping for tube fenders, comp cut crusher corners, rocker gaurds, rock hoop bumpers, a snorkel, lockers, and much wider tires! What meats can I get away with on those stock axles under mild wheeling. I would love to get some pictures of examples too.
Thanx,

Sell it to some soccer mom or a high school kid who thinks a lifted Jeep and cool tires makes it a wheeler

[Raskull]

Get adjustable upper control arms (if you don't have them) and lose the t-case drop. Drop the body lift to 1".

Are you running a D44 or a D35 in the rear? If it's a D44, put on tube fenders, 36" tires, lock the rear and wheel the fawk out of it.

[urbanmuddboger]

nothing i would just take it to the mall, and bounce it off the rev limiter till she blows(the chicks dig this) then report it stolen and collect the ins. money

[jeepdog5]

drop the 3" BL to a 1" BL, lose the tcase drop, flat skid it, front locker, cold-air intake, adjustable control arms, and i'd go with baja claws.


wheel it till the d35 breaks, swap up to a waggy 44, or a chopped 60. go from there.

[cisco]

Man, don't listen to the B.S! Just go wheeling! TJ's are capable rockcrawlers right outta the box! No need to start dropping money into it. It will go places you never dreamed.

Wheel the piss out of it. Find out if you like crawlin', see what breaks or limits you, upgrade from there!

Have fun!

[John00TJ]

Originally Posted by cisco

Man, don't listen to the B.S! Just go wheeling! TJ's are capable rockcrawlers right outta the box! No need to start dropping money into it. It will go places you never dreamed.

Wheel the piss out of it. Find out if you like crawlin', see what breaks or limits you, upgrade from there!

Have fun!

He said it ,

Plus this is in the wrong forum your going to take a beating in the hardcore

[IN$OMNIAC]

Originally Posted by John00TJ

He said it ,

Plus this is in the wrong forum your going to take a beating in the hardcore

I knew I'd take a beating (pirate is famous on other forums for being full of d!cks and smart @$$es) but I asked hear because I wanted to know what the hardcore guys would do to it. I want to build a jeep to meet this forum's approval, I can do "swaps" and I'm a capable fabricator, I just wanted some good ideas that I may not of thought of. Also I have no problem beating on it and its pretty capable (but I hate those skinny tires) I had her hood deep in water yesterday climbing washouts, we had a tropical storm earlier this week.
Thanx for the help guys.

[mphudak]

Read the ultimate TJ build thread. A lot of great info on popular swaps and unique builds.
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...mate+tj+builds

[IN$OMNIAC]

Why does everyone say take off the body lift and the t-case drop? I mean I wouldn't of put it on there but its already on there why should I take it off?
Thanx,

[blue p.o.s.]

body lifts bring the gay, tcase drops kill your belly height.

[IN$OMNIAC]

Bring the gay huh...

[mphudak]

Originally Posted by IN$OMNIAC

Why does everyone say take off the body lift and the t-case drop? I mean I wouldn't of put it on there but its already on there why should I take it off?
Thanx,

It raises the center of gravity and makes it more unstable on off camber situations. A body lift isn't a bad thing, running 1-1.25" is acceptable, anything above that is a diminisioning return. The lower you can keep your center of gravity the better performance you'll get on and off road. 4" suspension + 3" body is WAY TO MUCH for 34" tires. I'm running ~4.5" suspension and 1" body and have plenty of room for 35's. When I swap in my front 44 i'm going to pull the 3/4" spacers I have all the way around. I'll lower it more when I go long arm and belly up skid.

[rockgod]

Originally Posted by IN$OMNIAC

I've traded my monster 4wheeler for a lightly modded 1999 Jeep TJ, its a 4cyl, 5 speed, has 4.88 gears, 4" pro comp lift, 3" body lift, slip yoke eliminators, warn bumpers, 15x10 rockcrawler wheels, and 34x10.5x15 Super Swamper LTBs.

I like it but I want more hard core I want to go more "rockcrawler" with this one I've got a huge mud truck so I don't need another one of those. So what should I do? I'd rather not do an engine swap, and the axles have brand new 4.88s in them so it would be a shame to pull them out right away. What I'm asking is what should I do to it to make it a capable offroad "pirate acceptable" rig(still driven on the streets to the local trails). I'm hoping for tube fenders, comp cut crusher corners, rocker gaurds, rock hoop bumpers, a snorkel, lockers, and much wider tires! What meats can I get away with on those stock axles under mild wheeling. I would love to get some pictures of examples too.
Thanx,

Make a decision first on what you want. Hardcore crawler or a mild wheeling trail rig. If your serious about wanting to get into rocks you're probably better off ditching this to start off with something better. As a trail rig you could probably do some work and make it decent but alot of that depends on how you drive and knowing that your gonna break stuff. In the end stuff always breaks, shit happens. Try it the way it is if you keep it or sell it if your serious about rocks. 3" Bodylift

[SHNIPE]

sell it and buy two toyotas

[IN$OMNIAC]

Originally Posted by mphudak

It raises the center of gravity and makes it more unstable on off camber situations. A body lift isn't a bad thing, running 1-1.25" is acceptable, anything above that is a diminisioning return. The lower you can keep your center of gravity the better performance you'll get on and off road. 4" suspension + 3" body is WAY TO MUCH for 34" tires. I'm running ~4.5" suspension and 1" body and have plenty of room for 35's. When I swap in my front 44 i'm going to pull the 3/4" spacers I have all the way around. I'll lower it more when I go long arm and belly up skid.

Thanks for the help this is great info..

[IN$OMNIAC]

Originally Posted by rockgod

Make a decision first on what you want. Hardcore crawler or a mild wheeling trail rig. If your serious about wanting to get into rocks you're probably better off ditching this to start off with something better. As a trail rig you could probably do some work and make it decent but alot of that depends on how you drive and knowing that your gonna break stuff. In the end stuff always breaks, shit happens. Try it the way it is if you keep it or sell it if your serious about rocks. 3" Bodylift

I want pretty hardcore but be able to drive it to the trail, breaking stuff is not an issue. Stuff breaks no matter how bad you build it!