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Old 01-04-2009, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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on board air for locker and air tools...

I am buying my arb locker here within the week...i need to add the on board air with it. I wanted to do a compressor and a tank that will allow me to use simple air tools, and air up my tires as long as operate the locker. What are my choices? what have you all done? and some pictures of your compressor mounting, and where you mounted the tank would be awesome. I thought about mounting the tank and compressor where the back seat was, but i didnt really want it out in the open....

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Old 01-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do a search on "Puma" on this forum.
3 cfm at 90 psi, 100% duty cycle.
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X2 on the Puma. Kunckelhead recommended it and I gave it a try. One of the best items I bought under $250.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I had a york OBA on my Cj and was able to mount a larger tank than that Puma compressor under the floor where it steps up for the rear seating area.

My Tj has a sanden oba but no room underneath due to the long arms. That Puma looks like a good deal if they hold up.
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Had you given any thought to a c02 tank? I'm talking beverage home built c02 setup, not a Powertank.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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that would require just filling up a co2 tank and throwing it in the back of the jeep? I would not need a compressor? how long will a co2 tank last me??
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If you're going to run lockers and tools you probably don't want to go with CO2. I use a power tank and only get 3 to 4 tire fills (33's). I seriously wish that I had gone with OBA. Considering the puma system...
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Here's my Airtank for my York 210. Its a 5 1/4 hydraulic tubing withstands 8,000 psi and doubles as a bumper and rear rock slider. See the Air chuck in the end?>
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If you're going to run lockers and tools you probably don't want to go with CO2.
X2. I wanted something that could fill itself back up and it never run out. While CO2 does have it's advantages, if you are running tools or airing up, OBA is the way to go. It's there and has plenty of air.
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Old 01-05-2009, 07:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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any pictures of the puma system mounted in a jeep CJ, or wrangler...it looks looks kind of big in the picture, and i wanna see how much space it actually takes up..

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Not in a CJ--but these should give you an idea--especially if can look in the cargo area of an XJ.

First picture shows the ARB compressor for comparison. The second picture shows the "buzzard" compressor mounted in the rear of the cargo area, on the passenger side.
The compressor can be disassembled into its component parts for ease of install. I mounted the air tank under neath the floor, just behind the rear diff, and just in front of the fuel tank.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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any pictures of the puma system mounted in a jeep CJ, or wrangler...it looks looks kind of big in the picture, and i wanna see how much space it actually takes up..

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That first pic is in a wrangler...

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If you're going to run lockers and tools you probably don't want to go with CO2. I use a power tank and only get 3 to 4 tire fills (33's). I seriously wish that I had gone with OBA. Considering the puma system...

Do what? You must have a fixed regulator... Go with a variable regulator and turn your pressure down. I bet my 15 lbs tank will fill 30 or more 33 inch tires. I can run air tools for about 20 minutes (actual use time). Welding shop refills tank for $14.00
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Hmmmmm

I too wanted unlimted air and went with the Viair Super Duty system.

http://viaircorp.com/10008.html


The 33% duty cycle pumps are actually faster than the next step up constant duty pumps. If you were to run them for 50 minutes or more constant, you would want the 100% duty pumps.

I had JCR Offroad make me a shelf to house it all




It's nice because all the components are mounted to the shelf, and all can be removed with 4 bolts.

It fits perfect behind the rear seat of my CJ



I added another regulator not pictured just before the one in the picture, so I could have the chuck at 110 PSI and the lockers at 75 psi. The chuck to attatch the air hose in on top of the shelf to the left in the picture and easy to access.

I put the pressure guage up front in the dash




....and the switch to turn the system on in the dash with the locker switches




I cover the chuck up with a hydraulic hose rubber cap, and it powers up my 38.5x14.5 SX's from 4 to 16 psi in about 35 seconds. It runs tools perfect, as well as the lockers. It runs pretty quiet too, since the seat muffles some sound, but the pumps still breathe good.

It's nice to have unlimited air, and not worry to let others use it, and worry about yourself running out...

and the air chuck doesn't get freezing cold and frosted up like a powertank.....but yeah....they are super fast.

I love the system and will be adding a train horn soon....that will get powered by the same air system.

The pics look messy, due to the system was still being installed when these were taken.

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Old 01-07-2009, 12:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I have a York with a 2.5 gallon tank mounted under the hood. It's a tight fit.
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I have an Extreme Outback compressor. It has a 100% duty cycle and has been very reliable. Not as fast as a York, but the next best thing. And now they make an even stronger one.


http://www.extremeoutback.com/index....8.5272&pid=114

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The ARB compressor works for me, takes up very little room, and to be honest with ya', I don't carry power tools with me on the trail.
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Here is a couple pictures of mine, don't have any updated since completion, but you get the idea.




Here is my front bumper/ air tank




Compressor is a York 210 from a 1980 AMC eagle wagon

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Old 01-29-2009, 03:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hey..thanks for everyones input and pictures!! I ended up getting a wicked deal on the ARB locker and the ARB compressor as a package deal....it was so easy to install (compressor) and ARB says that i will be able to fill up my tires with it....its small and compact and fit right on the fender....seemed like the right choice for me...!!!
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While you CAN use the arb compressor to fill tires, it is a slow and painful process, and you will burn up the motor eventually. I know lots of guys who have tried this and regretted it.

ViAir makes a nice system, the Puma system listed above is nice, and of course the Cadillac of OBA is the Kilby OBA system, which really rocks. I have a Kilby bracket and scrounged the rest from the JY to make mine, but it really, truly is the ultimate in OBA setups.

Once you have an engine-driven OBA setup, you'll always ask yourself why you didn't do it sooner.
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