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mike4089 · 06-30-2009, 02:30 PM

I just noticed that my braket for the steering box is broken and the steering box moves all over the place....i have searched and found the heavy duty brace that i just bought, but i havent found any good pictures of it installed....im kinda needing some pics so i know what im getting my self into....It looked like the stock brace also holds on the front shackle mount??? If so is that a real pita to get off of there????

Help appreciated....

Thanks!

Dookey · 06-30-2009, 02:34 PM

Can you post some pictures so the rest of us can understand WTF you are talking about?

I, for one, don't even know what jeep you are talking about. It does help!

mike4089 · 06-30-2009, 02:44 PM

i guess that would help huh.....its an 83 cj7 with power steering

GoldToyBox · 06-30-2009, 04:15 PM

I guess your talking about the bracket that holds the steering box to the frame? You sure the bracket is broken? It's usually the 'ears' on the steering box.
Not that tough to get it apart ...... but take a very close look at the frame to be VERY SURE IT"S NOT BROKEN/CRACKED also.

From memory (not that good) your box is bolted on the bracket with 3 bolts? The new heavy duty bracket will be set up for 4 bolts (much stronger).

There might be a shared bolt for the bracket & the spring hanger? Your the one looking at it, so you can tell us. Again from memory, there will be bolts through the frame horizonally and vertically holding the bracket.

Replace all the bolts if new ones don't come with your new bracket.

If nothing else is broken, it's a job that can be done in a day (beer included).

If you wheeling your rig in some tough stuff, might consider adding a cross frame steering box bracket.

Good luck

mudskipper4x4 · 06-30-2009, 04:48 PM

It shouldn't be that hard to get off, soak all the bolts first. Also yes the steering box bracket also shares a hole with the shackle hanger but it's not a big deal.

Also if you have bigger tires than stock get the steering cross brace, You will need it.

no_bs · 06-30-2009, 04:57 PM

Also, when your putting it on, bolt the steering box to it first, then put it on the frame. Also make sure o put the steering shaft back on the box before getting it all the way up there. It sucks, but not as much as when you have to take it off two or three times. I would also agree on getting the cross frame brace as well.

mike4089 · 06-30-2009, 08:08 PM

new braket and cross frame brace are ordered and should ship tomorrow...thanks guys! if anyone has some pics of it all installed that would be great....and if i remember right i could have sworn that it shared both bolts with the shackle hanger??? but its late and i got tired of looking at it....

Thanks again!

mike4089 · 06-30-2009, 08:16 PM

one more thing...what if my frame is cracked??? how do i go about fixing that??? ill be in bad shape if its broke under that bracket

stieg000 · 07-01-2009, 12:06 PM

Seen many steering boxes crack or break off the frame. Fixing would involve welding and suggesting a way to do it is hard to say without pictures. If it's broke post some pics.

GoldToyBox · 07-01-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mike4089

one more thing...what if my frame is cracked??? how do i go about fixing that??? ill be in bad shape if its broke under that bracket

Is your frame boxed?
If your frame is cracked (woe is you) a lot more work will be required.
If it's just a single line crack ..... maybe able to just weld up the crack.
If it's more than that ............ maybe just weld in a plate but may have to cut out a section.
Have to see it to say more.

mike4089 · 07-01-2009, 08:30 PM

well its all coming off on saturday...parts should be here either saturdat or on monday Im still waiting on fed ex. Ill take pics then. Im really really! hoping that the frame is not all fubered up!!

06-30-2009, 02:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
mike4089 samoorian Supply LLC Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125421 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,101	steering box bracket is F#$$ed..... I just noticed that my braket for the steering box is broken and the steering box moves all over the place....i have searched and found the heavy duty brace that i just bought, but i havent found any good pictures of it installed....im kinda needing some pics so i know what im getting my self into....It looked like the stock brace also holds on the front shackle mount??? If so is that a real pita to get off of there???? Help appreciated.... Thanks! Last edited by mike4089; 06-30-2009 at 02:43 PM.

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Dookey GM at TWF Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23680 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 7,256 Blog Entries: 1	Can you post some pictures so the rest of us can understand WTF you are talking about? I, for one, don't even know what jeep you are talking about. It does help! __________________ ANDY<--- ME! TrailWorthyFab.com<--- THE BEST DOUBLE BEAD LOCKS! Project: Dookey's revenge<--- My Junk! OFF ROAD GEAR<--COOL SWAG!

06-30-2009, 04:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
GoldToyBox Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 32187 Location: Selma, in the middle of the vineyards, Central California Posts: 314	I guess your talking about the bracket that holds the steering box to the frame? You sure the bracket is broken? It's usually the 'ears' on the steering box. Not that tough to get it apart ...... but take a very close look at the frame to be VERY SURE IT"S NOT BROKEN/CRACKED also. From memory (not that good) your box is bolted on the bracket with 3 bolts? The new heavy duty bracket will be set up for 4 bolts (much stronger). There might be a shared bolt for the bracket & the spring hanger? Your the one looking at it, so you can tell us. Again from memory, there will be bolts through the frame horizonally and vertically holding the bracket. Replace all the bolts if new ones don't come with your new bracket. If nothing else is broken, it's a job that can be done in a day (beer included). If you wheeling your rig in some tough stuff, might consider adding a cross frame steering box bracket. Good luck __________________ -------------------- "[B]The Heep[/B]" 73 Commando, 258 I-6, T-18, Scout Dana 300 w/Tera 4:1 Kit, Twin-sticks, SOA, PS, Thru-dash Cage, Alcans, OBA, ARB's, HEI, Ft disc, Dents, Mud & Rust.

06-30-2009, 04:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
mudskipper4x4 AllUpInYourFace Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72951 Location: in a van down by the river Posts: 1,629	It shouldn't be that hard to get off, soak all the bolts first. Also yes the steering box bracket also shares a hole with the shackle hanger but it's not a big deal. Also if you have bigger tires than stock get the steering cross brace, You will need it. __________________ 76 CJ-7... mostly chevy parts www.centexoffroad.com

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06-30-2009, 02:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
mike4089 samoorian Supply LLC Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125421 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,101	i guess that would help huh.....its an 83 cj7 with power steering

06-30-2009, 04:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
no_bs Wheeler Join Date: May 2008 Member # 114256 Posts: 285	Also, when your putting it on, bolt the steering box to it first, then put it on the frame. Also make sure o put the steering shaft back on the box before getting it all the way up there. It sucks, but not as much as when you have to take it off two or three times. I would also agree on getting the cross frame brace as well.

06-30-2009, 08:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
mike4089 samoorian Supply LLC Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125421 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,101	new braket and cross frame brace are ordered and should ship tomorrow...thanks guys! if anyone has some pics of it all installed that would be great....and if i remember right i could have sworn that it shared both bolts with the shackle hanger??? but its late and i got tired of looking at it.... Thanks again!

06-30-2009, 08:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
mike4089 samoorian Supply LLC Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125421 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,101	one more thing...what if my frame is cracked??? how do i go about fixing that??? ill be in bad shape if its broke under that bracket

07-01-2009, 12:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
stieg000 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Member # 136660 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 47	Seen many steering boxes crack or break off the frame. Fixing would involve welding and suggesting a way to do it is hard to say without pictures. If it's broke post some pics.

07-01-2009, 08:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
mike4089 samoorian Supply LLC Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125421 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 1,101	well its all coming off on saturday...parts should be here either saturdat or on monday Im still waiting on fed ex. Ill take pics then. Im really really! hoping that the frame is not all fubered up!!