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Old 05-21-2010, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1959 FC-150 Jeep Forward Control Mild Build Up.

I'm starting out a Mild build on a 1959 Jeep FC-150. Its rough but I'm going to put some shine on her. Basic plan of action is swapping in a 258 Straight Six backed by a T18 and Dana 20, Throwing some Dana 44 Waggy axles under it, 33"-35" tires and some body work, interior, and cage work, custom built bed. The ultimate goal is a putt around town truck and a light to mild weekend toy. It's by no means going to be hardcore but it should be a fun project. Updates might be a bit slow as I work a ton of hours.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Only "some body work" ? Sounds like a nice build. Looking forward to how it turns out.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Only "some body work" ? Sounds like a nice build. Looking forward to how it turns out.
The body isnt really that bad.... just needs 10 layers of paint taken off and a rust hole repaired under the battery box. If i can get my other project vehicle sold I'm just going to have a buddy soda blast the whole thing. Otherwise it will be a ton of sanding.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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too bad you bought that one, I found an older model that seems to be in better shape for you
1958 willys jeep fc 170 4x4 - $1300 (owasso)
Date: 2010-05-21, 9:16PM CDT
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willys jeep fc 170 4x4 runs drives but need a little tlc it is taged and has clear title motor is flat head six these are getting hard to find. i have to many projects so this one needs to go i am asking 1300.00 or best offer please email thrue craigslist and i will contact you back thanks for looking

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Old 05-23-2010, 07:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This one in rough condition is exactly what i was looking for as far as I didn't want something that was too original that I would feel bad for modifying it to suit my wants. I was looking for a project that i could build my way from the ground up.

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if its going to be a putter why swap axles, just run them as is.
I want full widths and disk brakes.... Besides I already bought them.

Ok some updates. Spent a couple of evenings this last week playing with the new engine and playing with the wiring, I got it to run briefly so it should be good to go after a carb rebuild. So I moved on to cleaning up the cab and getting it ready for removal.

I took the weird removable grill screen off. I will have to come up with a good donor grill from something to fill in the hole. I'm going to ponder on that for a while.

The cab came off without too much fuss especially since I'm planning on rewiring everything so most of what was there got snipped. It's found its home on 2 furniture dollys for right now.
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Spent a little time cleaning up the frame, namely torching off the large hunk of angle iron that I'm guessing was a plow mount at one time. Then out came the Flathead V8 and ford car tranny. I spent some time scrapping gunk off the frame and called it a night....

Next on the agenda is frame clean up, motor mount mock up and and frame paint.

My pondering point for the evening is what to do about power steering... I need a push-pull box that I can point the steering wheel shaft almost straight up. I'm thinking a 73-87 GM 4x4 box might work. More on that later...
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Well I decided to jump way ahead of myself on the build and bought some wheels and tires... 35" Nitto Mud Grappler mounted on newer style 17" Z-71 chev Rims... The tread is a little thin but the price was right.. Time to add a little bling to the build...

First I mounted one on the back to check to see how close everything is.. Good thing I'm not using the waggy frame and will be inboarding the springs a lot in the rear.

As most here well know you can't just pop new chevy wheels on an old 44 axle. The lug pattern is the same old 6 on 5.5" but the hub hole is too small. Well I did the simple cheap mod to fix that problem. I made a jig to center a hole saw and went to town. The hubs on the 44 front are right at 3.5" so I cut the holes at 3 5/8" to leave some room for error. The jig worked perfectly. I mounted the 2 front up and found the next issue is the offset on the rim. They rub the tierod ends ever so slightly. I think 1/4" wheel spacers should give me enough clearance to run them. I will be getting some larger lugnuts before this thing gets on the road. All for tonight!
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few more wheel pics
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sandblast that frame and POR it. that shit is hurting my eyes.
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sandblast that frame and POR it. that shit is hurting my eyes.

Thats the waggy frame... Its a rusty hunk that will see a trip to the scrap yard eventually, I'm going to use the original FC frame which is in pretty good condition. It will cleaned and painted in due time.


Build cost tally so far:
FC-150 Jeep $450
Title issues resolved and Tax, Title, and Antique plates. $204
79 Chief Chassis with engine, trans, transfercase, and axles $350
Wheels and Tires $300

Total so far: $1304
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oh ok. not bad on the budget but the specialty parts might eat your lunch.
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Update for memorial day weekend... Pressure washed the frame and the engine then primed and painted. Looks much better. For being 51 years old this frame is in great shape. Also since I had the pressure washer out I cleaned my garage floor... It was getting nasty. Gotta go to a BBQ for the rest of the day but coming up soon is the drive train swap.
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Today was a deconstruction day, Nothing very impressive. I tore the Cherokee frame down. Removed the engine/trans, axles, and motor mounts, and the chunk where the P/S box mounts... just in case. Sectioned the Cherokee frame into quarters and tossed on the trailer for the scrap yard. I thought I would check the fit of the new engine in the FC frame. Looks like some cross member modification is in order, no worries though.
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making good progress man. curious to see what you come up with for a power steering box. I want to go p/s on the fc170 project i got. i was thinking one off a isuzu npr but there about $500 new. Been looking for a cheap used one I think it might work. heres what the npr one looks like.

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I'm still debating an what to do for the steering. I'm going to have to move the crossmember that the bell crank is mounted to forward so the 258 will fit. I'm thinking about mounting the Cherokee saginaw box backwards with 2-3 U joints to a 53 chevy car steering column and the pitman arm reversed. In theory that should line everything up but I'm going to get the axle in place first. I'm going to try to make it as safe as possible and have the most correct steering alignment with the fewest moving parts.
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too bad you bought that one, I found an older model that seems to be in better shape for you
1958 willys jeep fc 170 4x4 - $1300 (owasso)
Date: 2010-05-21, 9:16PM CDT
Reply to: sale-jhtmp-1753292731@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

willys jeep fc 170 4x4 runs drives but need a little tlc it is taged and has clear title motor is flat head six these are getting hard to find. i have to many projects so this one needs to go i am asking 1300.00 or best offer please email thrue craigslist and i will contact you back thanks for looking

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Interesting!! I just bought this one today!
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Not sure if it would help you in fitting a saginaw box or not, but I found this steering switcharoo on a late model Isuzu rodeo at the junkyard a while back. It could make your steering shaft a little less complex...

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there was a thread talking about power steering a FC on here. but i lost the link. i will try and find it again
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I know I asked about fc power steering a while back.....probably different. but subscribing for sure. Looks like a cool build sounds like you have similar plans for your fc as I do for mine
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Well, I haven't done much with the jeep lately, The engine is mounted solidly in the frame and that's about it. However I got a new tool for my birthday and thought I would try it out on the Jeep project.

The new tool is a Bead roller from Woodward Fab...


Well first I need some Sheet Metal.... Oh look... a hood from a 94 Ford explorer... No one would want that.


Using a tape measure, a piece of Aluminum, and the tear out opening from a box of latex gloves I drafted what sorta resembles a Jeep grill. I'm fully aware FC's have 7 holes. Mine is different.. sorta like the kid in school that eats paste.


Well after some work on the new bead roller this is what I got. Looks ok, not great. Might try again later or I might use it depending on my mood at the time. I don't think it turned out too bad for being the first time I ever used a bead roller. I'm toying with the idea of not cutting the holes out in the grill since my radiator will be rear mounted. This would allow me to make some more floor space inside the jeep. Thoughts or opinions welcome!

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doesn't look bad. but is the sheet wavy?
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http://1stgearoffroad.com/ guy figured out power steering and does rubber stuff
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any updates?
lol I saw this thread and thought of you.
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