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Old 07-03-2010, 10:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone using Waggy springs?

Wondering if anyone is using front wagoneer springs and would like to post some pics,specs,opinions
I want to run front waggy springs all around on a yj seems like a nice cheap alternative to a lift kit, plus im not looking for tons of lift and i like how it lifts the jeep as well as extends the wheel base
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read it front to back and vice versa, i want some more opinions. I read the bushings are crap but id like some more opinions on the springs.
thanks though
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read it front to back and vice versa, i want some more opinions. I read the bushings are crap but id like some more opinions on the springs.
thanks though
I run waggys in the front and CJ stockers in the rear. SOA They work fine.
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Old 07-04-2010, 03:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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what kind of jeep do you have? and where did you get your driveshafts made?
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Full size Wagoneer springs are about 57" long. They have a 26 - 31 split.
YJ or CJ are 44" long, and the spring bolt centered 22 - 22.


You'll gain some length with them on the wheel base.
Longer springs are always good for better flex and ride. However, if you've anything limiting flex now, it will still limit flex with the Waggy springs. Check out the thread "How to get the most Leaf spring flex"

My view is longer leafs are better, and the junk yard provides plenty to try different custom configurations. Leaf springs are a wear item in this sport.

Some spring info: /forum/jeep-hardcore-tech/775943-info-leaf-spring.html


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i have waggy springs, they are 22-24. Ive also moved my rear mounts back.

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i have waggy springs, they are 22-24. Ive also moved my rear mounts back.

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Good point, I was just talking rear leafs for the Waggy


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1976 - 1992 Jeep Wagoneer / Full Size Cherokee / J10 / J20 Pick up leaf springs

# Leaves Width...... Measures (A/B)..... Pack Thickness (D)....Spring Capacity
5 ........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-5/16............ 960
7........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-13/16........... 1335
7........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-15/16........... 1455
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i have waggy springs, they are 22-24. Ive also moved my rear mounts back.

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Nice jeep, basically the same thing im going for except SUA and only 33s.What kind of shocks are you using?

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Good point, I was just talking rear leafs for the Waggy


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1976 - 1992 Jeep Wagoneer / Full Size Cherokee / J10 / J20 Pick up leaf springs

# Leaves Width...... Measures (A/B)..... Pack Thickness (D)....Spring Capacity
5 ........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-5/16............ 960
7........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-13/16........... 1335
7........... 2-1/2........... 22-1/2 x 24-1/2........... 1-15/16........... 1455
sweet info, i looked at the leaf sprung travel thread, shocks seem to be the key. Im also going to use boomerang shackles, i want to keep my stock mounts.
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go for stock front 7 leaf waggy packs f/r.
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Here is some more info, dont know if you hade seen it already or not...As always, you'll have to verify the accuracy..Here you go, might be useful:
http://www.universityofjeep.ca/stretching_yj.html

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I have front waggy's in the rear, flipped the springs around and added an extra leaf with military wrapped. Running it SUA with 39 Maddogs, and no the rear fender is not finished.



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OX--- you are running stock Waggie spring reversed SUA and running 39"s? I thought they only netted around 2" lift? Am I missing something? Please more input.
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x2 on more info. Also, searched a bit and didn't find any definate answer. But if you buy lift springs for a waggy, does it still hold true that you add an additional 2" to the spring? Thanks
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Platform is a 1993 Jeep YJ:

Running Stockish front waggy springs in the front, bastard built spring pak to get my ride height. Its SOA, about 5" lift overall, with 12" travel shocks. I guess I could go 14" if I redid the lower shock mount at the axle. But I had limited room to work with since I installed a HP60 from a 89 F350(shorter driver side tube) This also shifted the front axle forward 3.1 inches gain in WB. Used stock OEM steering box with stock waggy Pitman.(no drop) I do have a short thread on here somewhere in non-hardcore. Just got to go dig it up out of the dirt somewhere.
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Stock front Waggy flipped with an added spring. I took the main spring of the rear pack to build the military wrap. I mounted the spring hangers on the bottom of the frame for a little added height, I also have a 1 inch body lift.



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Stock front Waggy flipped with an added spring. I took the main spring of the rear pack to build the military wrap. I mounted the spring hangers on the bottom of the frame for a little added height, I also have a 1 inch body lift.



Cases like yours are the only time I ever suggest a longer shackle, but you need it.
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yea, its like 99% done and that's on the list. I did move the spring hanger back a little so the shackle is closer to a 45% angle.

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Looking hard at the Wags for the inevitable mods to the YJ sitting in the driveway. Target tire size is going to be 35's; thinking Wags SUA & TJ flares...1" body lift if that is not enough.

I want to avoid hacking sheetmetal on this one. Would 35's go?
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I think 35 should fit clean with no body lift. Keep in mind that the spring hangers on the YJ are in the frame and the ones on my TJ are on the bottom, you will lose a little height. Look at this, he is YJ SUA with waggys.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...&highlight=sua
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