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Ethan · 10-23-2010, 02:51 PM

Hey, I've got a 88 cherokee with the stock d30 front axle. It's got the vacuum powered 4wd engagement system. Can I eliminate that by swapping out the 2 piece shaft with a solid shaft from a TJ? Or does anyone know where I can buy a solid axle shaft? Thanks

Fullsizexj · 10-23-2010, 03:17 PM

Yes you can, you will need the inner axle seal for it and I would go ahead and get the drivers side also so that you will get the larger 297 ujoints at the same time, I do not know the part numbers for the seal as I never bothered to upgrade a D-30

nismo5 · 10-23-2010, 04:15 PM

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/yjd3...jconvert-1.htm
its the same thing

ONEtonXJ · 10-24-2010, 02:11 AM

solid shafts came in XJ's too jackass

Fullsizexj · 10-24-2010, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONEtonXJ

solid shafts came in XJ's too jackass

88 XJ's came with the disconnect 3 peice shaft on the Passengerside, you should think before you type

ashmanjeepXJ · 10-24-2010, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullsizexj

88 XJ's came with the disconnect 3 peice shaft on the Passengerside, you should think before you type

Non disconnect shafts came in newer XJs, just like the TJ shaft he's looking at.

Fullsizexj · 10-24-2010, 07:58 AM

yup, that is correct, they also came with the larger 297 ujoint so he should nab both axle shafts as the 88 came with a smaller ujoint

Ethan · 10-24-2010, 03:32 PM

Hey, thanks guys, good info

Wild Hare · 10-24-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONEtonXJ

solid shafts came in XJ's too jackass

WOW, completely uncalled for

gtxracer · 10-24-2010, 03:59 PM

Don't bother with a block off kit, get a SealsIt seal and be done with it. That's what I did and it only requires you to pull the carrier and slip in the seal with some silicone - no pressing in a seal and finding which one goes in your specific housing. Trust me, I tried 5 different seals and SealsIt was the only one that actually fit and seals twice.

Ethan · 10-25-2010, 10:26 AM

so no need to replace the axle shaft? does the sealsit fix the vacuum problem?

gtxracer · 10-25-2010, 10:32 AM

Use any 1 piece axle shaft for a D30 from a TJ, XJ, etc. A few guys have made the vacuum system into a posi lock, you may want to look at that too. The SealsIt seal allows you to use any 1 piece shaft and is better than any "kit". I used a kit and other seals first and they were horrible, then got a SealsIt and couldn't be happier. Check out my "grandmas boy" build by searching under my user name, I went into some detail about all this in that build.

Ethan · 10-25-2010, 10:33 AM

alrighty, sweet thanks

10-23-2010, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ethan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Member # 153931 Location: New Hartford, CT Posts: 6	Front Axle Help Hey, I've got a 88 cherokee with the stock d30 front axle. It's got the vacuum powered 4wd engagement system. Can I eliminate that by swapping out the 2 piece shaft with a solid shaft from a TJ? Or does anyone know where I can buy a solid axle shaft? Thanks

10-23-2010, 03:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fullsizexj Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19323 Location: Milton WV 304 521-4496 Posts: 4,115	Yes you can, you will need the inner axle seal for it and I would go ahead and get the drivers side also so that you will get the larger 297 ujoints at the same time, I do not know the part numbers for the seal as I never bothered to upgrade a D-30 __________________ Mud River Motorsports RCrocs Class 3 Team #304

10-24-2010, 02:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
ONEtonXJ Rock God Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 145633 Location: Grand Junction, Crawlorado Posts: 1,337	solid shafts came in XJ's too jackass __________________ "Tater2" - '91 2 door XJ. 4.0, AW4, 231/300 doubler, GM 60/70HD, 6.17s, ARB's & 4Ds

10-24-2010, 07:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Fullsizexj Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19323 Location: Milton WV 304 521-4496 Posts: 4,115	yup, that is correct, they also came with the larger 297 ujoint so he should nab both axle shafts as the 88 came with a smaller ujoint __________________ Mud River Motorsports RCrocs Class 3 Team #304

10-24-2010, 03:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
gtxracer spot me? mydfghgfff! Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25303 Location: in the shop Posts: 3,766	Don't bother with a block off kit, get a SealsIt seal and be done with it. That's what I did and it only requires you to pull the carrier and slip in the seal with some silicone - no pressing in a seal and finding which one goes in your specific housing. Trust me, I tried 5 different seals and SealsIt was the only one that actually fit and seals twice. __________________ 97 TJ 4.0/np435/d300/3link/4link in progress Ultimate Wrangler Build Ups and Swaps Thread Builds, Swaps, Axles, Engines, Turbos, Diesels, Suspensions, Fab, and more! Now incorporating a CJ and Willys section, post your tech and builds!

10-23-2010, 04:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
nismo5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Member # 153869 Location: chico ,ca Posts: 161	http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/yjd3...jconvert-1.htm its the same thing

10-24-2010, 03:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ethan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Member # 153931 Location: New Hartford, CT Posts: 6	Hey, thanks guys, good info

10-25-2010, 10:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ethan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Member # 153931 Location: New Hartford, CT Posts: 6	so no need to replace the axle shaft? does the sealsit fix the vacuum problem?

10-25-2010, 10:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
gtxracer spot me? mydfghgfff! Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25303 Location: in the shop Posts: 3,766	Use any 1 piece axle shaft for a D30 from a TJ, XJ, etc. A few guys have made the vacuum system into a posi lock, you may want to look at that too. The SealsIt seal allows you to use any 1 piece shaft and is better than any "kit". I used a kit and other seals first and they were horrible, then got a SealsIt and couldn't be happier. Check out my "grandmas boy" build by searching under my user name, I went into some detail about all this in that build. __________________ 97 TJ 4.0/np435/d300/3link/4link in progress Ultimate Wrangler Build Ups and Swaps Thread Builds, Swaps, Axles, Engines, Turbos, Diesels, Suspensions, Fab, and more! Now incorporating a CJ and Willys section, post your tech and builds!

10-25-2010, 10:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ethan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Member # 153931 Location: New Hartford, CT Posts: 6	alrighty, sweet thanks

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